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		By: lucy Mink-Covello		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 04:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I like that, &#039;the five boroughs&#039; as a state of mind, and I will check out New Art City. Now can you please tell me how to have the &#039;five borough bagel&#039; as a state of mind.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that, &#8216;the five boroughs&#8217; as a state of mind, and I will check out New Art City. Now can you please tell me how to have the &#8216;five borough bagel&#8217; as a state of mind.</p>
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		By: Stephen Maine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 02:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Joe, pull yourself together. It&#039;s well established that painterly abstraction rose up right here in NYC--on the shoulders of European giants. 

Matt, see the fall 2009 issue of Aperture for a nice feature on William Eggleston&#039;s drawings. In it, he recalls: &quot;I drove all the way to Arkansas to see Merce [Cunningham] once. It was marvelous. Then after, people were asking him questions: &#039;Was the dance supposed to be about this, or about that?&#039; And he simply said: &#039;No, it&#039;s not supposed to be anything but what it is.&#039; People ask me what my work is about. I also just want them to have their own experience.&quot;

Lucy, Tom Nozkowski is still a New York painter. He carried Gotham in his brain and his guts when he moved upstate, as surely as Pollock and Krasner did when they relocated to Springs. The &#039;five boroughs&#039; is a state of mind. See Jed Perl&#039;s excellent New Art City for a beautifully sustained meditation on NY as a place to be an artist.

Greg, I guess I see painterly abstraction as a regional specialty, like surfing in California and barbecue in Kansas City. Of course, some people try and surf off Coney Island, and some of our barbecue is not bad. I&#039;m just saying, it&#039;s not the same.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, pull yourself together. It&#8217;s well established that painterly abstraction rose up right here in NYC&#8211;on the shoulders of European giants. </p>
<p>Matt, see the fall 2009 issue of Aperture for a nice feature on William Eggleston&#8217;s drawings. In it, he recalls: &#8220;I drove all the way to Arkansas to see Merce [Cunningham] once. It was marvelous. Then after, people were asking him questions: &#8216;Was the dance supposed to be about this, or about that?&#8217; And he simply said: &#8216;No, it&#8217;s not supposed to be anything but what it is.&#8217; People ask me what my work is about. I also just want them to have their own experience.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lucy, Tom Nozkowski is still a New York painter. He carried Gotham in his brain and his guts when he moved upstate, as surely as Pollock and Krasner did when they relocated to Springs. The &#8216;five boroughs&#8217; is a state of mind. See Jed Perl&#8217;s excellent New Art City for a beautifully sustained meditation on NY as a place to be an artist.</p>
<p>Greg, I guess I see painterly abstraction as a regional specialty, like surfing in California and barbecue in Kansas City. Of course, some people try and surf off Coney Island, and some of our barbecue is not bad. I&#8217;m just saying, it&#8217;s not the same.</p>
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		By: Greg Seagrave		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 15:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t live in &quot;one of the five boroughs,&quot; I live
in Indianapolis,IN and my art is just as authentic
(and juicy) as anyone else&#039;s -guess I live in the
wrong place, thank god for world wide shipping!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t live in &#8220;one of the five boroughs,&#8221; I live<br />
in Indianapolis,IN and my art is just as authentic<br />
(and juicy) as anyone else&#8217;s -guess I live in the<br />
wrong place, thank god for world wide shipping!</p>
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		By: lucy Mink-Covello		</title>
		<link>https://artcritical.com/2010/11/02/roberts-hartling-whitney/#comment-2063</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 01:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The idiom&#039;s practitioners are everywhere on earth these days, but the most most authentic stuff is still made in our five boroughs.&quot;

So because someone does not live in the 5 boroughs there work crosses a line and becomes less &quot;authentic&quot; 

Guston and Nozkowski and a great many other well known and unknown artists doing every genre of art live wherever they live, people gotta live. Not living in the 5 boroughs does not make you any less of a painter, it does not mean your work is inauthentic, it just means you have more money for good quality paint  and your kids have a yard if thats what they need and some of the money you save on property tax goes toward trips to the wonderful city to see great shows.

and please don&#039;t diss Europe]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The idiom&#8217;s practitioners are everywhere on earth these days, but the most most authentic stuff is still made in our five boroughs.&#8221;</p>
<p>So because someone does not live in the 5 boroughs there work crosses a line and becomes less &#8220;authentic&#8221; </p>
<p>Guston and Nozkowski and a great many other well known and unknown artists doing every genre of art live wherever they live, people gotta live. Not living in the 5 boroughs does not make you any less of a painter, it does not mean your work is inauthentic, it just means you have more money for good quality paint  and your kids have a yard if thats what they need and some of the money you save on property tax goes toward trips to the wonderful city to see great shows.</p>
<p>and please don&#8217;t diss Europe</p>
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		By: Matt		</title>
		<link>https://artcritical.com/2010/11/02/roberts-hartling-whitney/#comment-2057</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 18:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I enjoyed this. Well done. Question: What are these paintings about? What&#039;s the content. I get all the formal stuff you&#039;re talking about but what are the issues put forth by these pictures?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed this. Well done. Question: What are these paintings about? What&#8217;s the content. I get all the formal stuff you&#8217;re talking about but what are the issues put forth by these pictures?</p>
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		By: Joe Fyfe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 11:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The idiom’s practitioners are everywhere on earth these days, but the most authentic stuff is still made in our five boroughs.&quot; 

&quot;despite its roots in Old Europe&quot;

I am so glad we make the real thing here in the USA and have taken over painterly abstraction from those inauthentic foreigners. I&#039;m as tearful as John Boehner just thinking about it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The idiom’s practitioners are everywhere on earth these days, but the most authentic stuff is still made in our five boroughs.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;despite its roots in Old Europe&#8221;</p>
<p>I am so glad we make the real thing here in the USA and have taken over painterly abstraction from those inauthentic foreigners. I&#8217;m as tearful as John Boehner just thinking about it.</p>
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