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	Comments on: Brutalist Bridge Builder: Paul Rudolph&#8217;s plans for a Lower Manhattan Expressway	</title>
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		By: Efrain Cessor		</title>
		<link>https://artcritical.com/2010/12/12/paul-rudolph/#comment-33689</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2013 01:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In relation to buildings, architecture has to do with the planning, designing and constructing form, space and ambience that reflect functional, technical, social, environmental, and aesthetic considerations. It requires the creative manipulation and coordination of material, technology, light and shadow. Architecture also encompasses the pragmatic aspects of realizing buildings and structures, including scheduling, cost estimating and construction administration. As documentation produced by architects, typically drawings, plans and technical specifications, architecture defines the structure and/or behavior of a building or any other kind of system that is to be or has been constructed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In relation to buildings, architecture has to do with the planning, designing and constructing form, space and ambience that reflect functional, technical, social, environmental, and aesthetic considerations. It requires the creative manipulation and coordination of material, technology, light and shadow. Architecture also encompasses the pragmatic aspects of realizing buildings and structures, including scheduling, cost estimating and construction administration. As documentation produced by architects, typically drawings, plans and technical specifications, architecture defines the structure and/or behavior of a building or any other kind of system that is to be or has been constructed.</p>
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		By: Sharron Clemons		</title>
		<link>https://artcritical.com/2010/12/12/paul-rudolph/#comment-2561</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sharron Clemons]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 20:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great drawings. So glad he did not build them. David - Fascinating take on the role of visionary architect&#039;s drawings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great drawings. So glad he did not build them. David &#8211; Fascinating take on the role of visionary architect&#8217;s drawings.</p>
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		By: Sharron Clemons		</title>
		<link>https://artcritical.com/2010/12/12/paul-rudolph/#comment-2560</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 20:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ I absolutely love The Drawing Center (and once had the privelege of showing there).  It&#039;s the extraordinarily high standards set by that amazing institution that make the display of the Rudolph reproductions difficult to swallow.  I wonder if the Library of Congress would loan to the main space, which exhibits museum level shows regularly, as opposed to the Drawing Room space?  Assuming the answer is yes, I do hope the wide interest in the Rudolph show will lead to a show of his drawings there in the future.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I absolutely love The Drawing Center (and once had the privelege of showing there).  It&#8217;s the extraordinarily high standards set by that amazing institution that make the display of the Rudolph reproductions difficult to swallow.  I wonder if the Library of Congress would loan to the main space, which exhibits museum level shows regularly, as opposed to the Drawing Room space?  Assuming the answer is yes, I do hope the wide interest in the Rudolph show will lead to a show of his drawings there in the future.</p>
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		By: David Brody		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 13:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ I absolutely love The Drawing Center (and once had the privelege of showing there).  It&#039;s the extraordinarily high standards set by that amazing institution that make the display of the Rudolph reproductions difficult to swallow.  I wonder if the Library of Congress would loan to the main space, which exhibits museum level shows regularly, as opposed to the Drawing Room space?  Assuming the answer is yes, I do hope the wide interest in the Rudolph show will lead to a show of his drawings there in the future.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I absolutely love The Drawing Center (and once had the privelege of showing there).  It&#8217;s the extraordinarily high standards set by that amazing institution that make the display of the Rudolph reproductions difficult to swallow.  I wonder if the Library of Congress would loan to the main space, which exhibits museum level shows regularly, as opposed to the Drawing Room space?  Assuming the answer is yes, I do hope the wide interest in the Rudolph show will lead to a show of his drawings there in the future.</p>
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		By: Brett Littman		</title>
		<link>https://artcritical.com/2010/12/12/paul-rudolph/#comment-2488</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David.

Thank you for the thoughtful review of our Paul Rudolph exhibition.  I wanted to say that I was interested in these drawings for the same reason that you are - the point at which architecture intersects art and also the role drawing plays in representing large scale spatial thinking.  You suggest that The Drawing Center has to answer for not showing the original drawings and for our choice of works.  

When I went to the Library of Congress two and half years ago to research the LOMEX drawings this material had been not be cataloged or for that matter conserved.  Once that process began it became apparent that the drawings could not be shown in our Drawing Room space (where we had originally conceived of hosting show - since it was not up to the standards of the Library of Congress for loans).  The decision to do the show at Cooper Union was initiated through a conversation with Dean Vidler and Steven Hillyer and I for one was excited about placing this show in an educational context. Since Rudolph has been such a maligned figure in the architecture world I thought it might be useful to have this show in one of the premiere architecture schools in the country to allow students to have a chance to evaluate the LOMEX proposal as one of the largest inter modal urban planning project ever dreamed of (which admittedly is fraught with many problems and contradictions)   As well, this collaboration allowed the Cooper students to rebuild the LOMEX model, which became a very important part of the show. I hope at least that gives some rationale for why the show ended up a Cooper Union.  In regards to our choices of drawings and the way we displayed them - I can only defend our decisions based on what we wanted to try and get across to the specialized audience at Cooper and introduce the project to the general public.  

That said, I am most proud of the dialog around this exhibition. For many this is the first time they have seen the project and there were many intelligent pieces written about this show that really dig into the relationship of architecture to urban planning, discuss new ways to frame city planning beyond the dialectic of the Moses and Jacobs positions and also some re-evaluation of Rudolph&#039;s legacy.

Best.

Brett Littman
Executive Director 
The Drawing Center]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David.</p>
<p>Thank you for the thoughtful review of our Paul Rudolph exhibition.  I wanted to say that I was interested in these drawings for the same reason that you are &#8211; the point at which architecture intersects art and also the role drawing plays in representing large scale spatial thinking.  You suggest that The Drawing Center has to answer for not showing the original drawings and for our choice of works.  </p>
<p>When I went to the Library of Congress two and half years ago to research the LOMEX drawings this material had been not be cataloged or for that matter conserved.  Once that process began it became apparent that the drawings could not be shown in our Drawing Room space (where we had originally conceived of hosting show &#8211; since it was not up to the standards of the Library of Congress for loans).  The decision to do the show at Cooper Union was initiated through a conversation with Dean Vidler and Steven Hillyer and I for one was excited about placing this show in an educational context. Since Rudolph has been such a maligned figure in the architecture world I thought it might be useful to have this show in one of the premiere architecture schools in the country to allow students to have a chance to evaluate the LOMEX proposal as one of the largest inter modal urban planning project ever dreamed of (which admittedly is fraught with many problems and contradictions)   As well, this collaboration allowed the Cooper students to rebuild the LOMEX model, which became a very important part of the show. I hope at least that gives some rationale for why the show ended up a Cooper Union.  In regards to our choices of drawings and the way we displayed them &#8211; I can only defend our decisions based on what we wanted to try and get across to the specialized audience at Cooper and introduce the project to the general public.  </p>
<p>That said, I am most proud of the dialog around this exhibition. For many this is the first time they have seen the project and there were many intelligent pieces written about this show that really dig into the relationship of architecture to urban planning, discuss new ways to frame city planning beyond the dialectic of the Moses and Jacobs positions and also some re-evaluation of Rudolph&#8217;s legacy.</p>
<p>Best.</p>
<p>Brett Littman<br />
Executive Director<br />
The Drawing Center</p>
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		By: David Brody		</title>
		<link>https://artcritical.com/2010/12/12/paul-rudolph/#comment-2483</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 19:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks to all for the comments!

It must have been interesting to spend 4 years in Rudolph&#039;s art and architecture building, which has been restored in a way that makes its circulation even more mysterious by an addition (Gwathmy Siegel?).  The complexity of the interior is pretty fascinating, and I have only seen photos and drawings of his houses, so it may well be true that I underestimate his passion for detail.  Still, no matter how much one wants to believe in Rudolph, you can&#039;t help coming away from Yale thinking about Kahn&#039;s command of materials, surfaces and spatial relation -- and for that matter how much more gorgeous Rudolph&#039;s parking strusture is compared to the forced dynamics of his campus building.   (I can&#039;t be the first to make that observation.)

As for &quot;opposititely charged&quot; -- a quck compression of what should be a long discussion, but for the record, I am the hopelessly confused product of just such a union.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to all for the comments!</p>
<p>It must have been interesting to spend 4 years in Rudolph&#8217;s art and architecture building, which has been restored in a way that makes its circulation even more mysterious by an addition (Gwathmy Siegel?).  The complexity of the interior is pretty fascinating, and I have only seen photos and drawings of his houses, so it may well be true that I underestimate his passion for detail.  Still, no matter how much one wants to believe in Rudolph, you can&#8217;t help coming away from Yale thinking about Kahn&#8217;s command of materials, surfaces and spatial relation &#8212; and for that matter how much more gorgeous Rudolph&#8217;s parking strusture is compared to the forced dynamics of his campus building.   (I can&#8217;t be the first to make that observation.)</p>
<p>As for &#8220;opposititely charged&#8221; &#8212; a quck compression of what should be a long discussion, but for the record, I am the hopelessly confused product of just such a union.</p>
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		By: Alexi Worth		</title>
		<link>https://artcritical.com/2010/12/12/paul-rudolph/#comment-2478</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexi Worth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 03:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://artcritical.com/2010/12/12/paul-rudolph/#comment-2474&quot;&gt;Daniel Wiener&lt;/a&gt;.

Ditto to all of the above, esp Daniel&#039;s opening. I spent years sorting through my mixed feelings about the A&#038;A, then visited a beautiful private house in Mamaroneck and was won over. As for art and architecture being &quot;oppositely charged,&quot; I think you&#039;ve just explained almost too much about my marriage, David!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://artcritical.com/2010/12/12/paul-rudolph/#comment-2474">Daniel Wiener</a>.</p>
<p>Ditto to all of the above, esp Daniel&#8217;s opening. I spent years sorting through my mixed feelings about the A&amp;A, then visited a beautiful private house in Mamaroneck and was won over. As for art and architecture being &#8220;oppositely charged,&#8221; I think you&#8217;ve just explained almost too much about my marriage, David!</p>
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		By: Daniel Wiener		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 21:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great drawings. So glad he did not build them.

David - Fascinating take on the role of visionary architect&#039;s drawings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great drawings. So glad he did not build them.</p>
<p>David &#8211; Fascinating take on the role of visionary architect&#8217;s drawings.</p>
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		By: lisa hein		</title>
		<link>https://artcritical.com/2010/12/12/paul-rudolph/#comment-2463</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 21:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[missed the rudolph drawing show, it must have been great.  but on the basis of 4 years spent in a rudolph bldg, i would offer alternate views of his architecture.  in creating problems rather than solving them for his buildings&#039; users, rudolph may be more of an artist as you define one.  while his large spaces are flaccid like much brutalism to follow, rudolph&#039;s satisfactions are in the compressed detours around the blind ends he throws up everywhere.

in my narrow experience, the strength of rudolph&#039;s architecture lies in the same intimate detail as the drawings.  and while he&#039;ll never match kahn for sense of scale or materials, when rudolph hammers ribbed concrete, that&#039;s pretty nice line in itself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>missed the rudolph drawing show, it must have been great.  but on the basis of 4 years spent in a rudolph bldg, i would offer alternate views of his architecture.  in creating problems rather than solving them for his buildings&#8217; users, rudolph may be more of an artist as you define one.  while his large spaces are flaccid like much brutalism to follow, rudolph&#8217;s satisfactions are in the compressed detours around the blind ends he throws up everywhere.</p>
<p>in my narrow experience, the strength of rudolph&#8217;s architecture lies in the same intimate detail as the drawings.  and while he&#8217;ll never match kahn for sense of scale or materials, when rudolph hammers ribbed concrete, that&#8217;s pretty nice line in itself.</p>
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