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	Comments on: Who, Me? James Esber and the Megolomania of the Group Portrait	</title>
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		By: Adam Simon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam Simon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 01:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For me the most interesting part of this assignment was the idea that it could be done without asserting one&#039;s own style, personality or ability to prefer one mark over another. I almost think that I managed to avoid anything resembling an esthetic decision! At the opening however, my vanity reasserted itself and I kept thinking, there&#039;s mine! Only it never was.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me the most interesting part of this assignment was the idea that it could be done without asserting one&#8217;s own style, personality or ability to prefer one mark over another. I almost think that I managed to avoid anything resembling an esthetic decision! At the opening however, my vanity reasserted itself and I kept thinking, there&#8217;s mine! Only it never was.</p>
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		By: Jenny Dubnau		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenny Dubnau]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 00:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think James&#039; project functions both in a collaborative and sweet-spirited way, and as an exercise in control. When I sat down to make the drawing, I was flattered that my &quot;take&quot; on James&#039; mark making mattered in any way, and at the same time, had to admit to feeling hemmed in and irritated by having to trace his every mark. I ended up sort of ruefully chuckling my way through the making of the drawing. I ended up feeling that the project is an essentially humorous one: there is an absurdity to the image (airplane-like marks in Osama&#039;s rather silly-looking face?!), and while attempting to trace another artist&#039;s marks is a humbling process, the process makes you see the marks themselves as somewhat absurd. It&#039;s a nicely complex project!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think James&#8217; project functions both in a collaborative and sweet-spirited way, and as an exercise in control. When I sat down to make the drawing, I was flattered that my &#8220;take&#8221; on James&#8217; mark making mattered in any way, and at the same time, had to admit to feeling hemmed in and irritated by having to trace his every mark. I ended up sort of ruefully chuckling my way through the making of the drawing. I ended up feeling that the project is an essentially humorous one: there is an absurdity to the image (airplane-like marks in Osama&#8217;s rather silly-looking face?!), and while attempting to trace another artist&#8217;s marks is a humbling process, the process makes you see the marks themselves as somewhat absurd. It&#8217;s a nicely complex project!</p>
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		By: Jim Supanick		</title>
		<link>https://artcritical.com/2010/12/15/james-esber-2/#comment-2984</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Supanick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David, if spontaneity was what you were after, this was probably not the best place to find it.  And speaking as a participant myself, I felt no coercion whatsoever- the challenge was welcome, and through doing it I encountered a great deal I didn&#039;t expect--with the overall conceit, with the original drawing, and within myself (you can read my account of it at: 

http://supanickblog.blogspot.com/2010_11_01_archive.html  )

Lastly, what is this &#039;&quot;Who, Me?&quot; megalomania&#039; you speak of?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, if spontaneity was what you were after, this was probably not the best place to find it.  And speaking as a participant myself, I felt no coercion whatsoever- the challenge was welcome, and through doing it I encountered a great deal I didn&#8217;t expect&#8211;with the overall conceit, with the original drawing, and within myself (you can read my account of it at: </p>
<p><a href="http://supanickblog.blogspot.com/2010_11_01_archive.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://supanickblog.blogspot.com/2010_11_01_archive.html</a>  )</p>
<p>Lastly, what is this &#8216;&#8221;Who, Me?&#8221; megalomania&#8217; you speak of?</p>
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		By: Alice Henty		</title>
		<link>https://artcritical.com/2010/12/15/james-esber-2/#comment-2983</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alice Henty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know nothing about the art world and haven&#039;t used a brush and ink since I was at school.  I was surprised and honored to be asked to participate in this project.  I thoroughly enjoyed spending a couple of hours sitting alone and in silence at my kitchen table tracing the lines of James&#039; picture.  For once in my life everything stopped.  I approached it with a sense of obligation and put it off for a week or so after I was given the task.  James had warned me that it was going to take a while so I guess I was mentally preparing myself for the ordeal.  But once I started I got really, really into it.  At first I tried to replicate as accurately as possible the lines I was going over and then at some point I started making my own creative decisions and for me that&#039;s when the experience took off.  It only took me about an hour and in the end I thought mine actually looked better than his. If I was a smart artist I probably would have taken something away from the experience and continued to create but I went right back to spending the next night, and the night after that cleaning up after the kids and watching inappropriate reality TV.  But now that you&#039;ve made me think about it again I did enjoy that quiet silence with a brush in my hand.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know nothing about the art world and haven&#8217;t used a brush and ink since I was at school.  I was surprised and honored to be asked to participate in this project.  I thoroughly enjoyed spending a couple of hours sitting alone and in silence at my kitchen table tracing the lines of James&#8217; picture.  For once in my life everything stopped.  I approached it with a sense of obligation and put it off for a week or so after I was given the task.  James had warned me that it was going to take a while so I guess I was mentally preparing myself for the ordeal.  But once I started I got really, really into it.  At first I tried to replicate as accurately as possible the lines I was going over and then at some point I started making my own creative decisions and for me that&#8217;s when the experience took off.  It only took me about an hour and in the end I thought mine actually looked better than his. If I was a smart artist I probably would have taken something away from the experience and continued to create but I went right back to spending the next night, and the night after that cleaning up after the kids and watching inappropriate reality TV.  But now that you&#8217;ve made me think about it again I did enjoy that quiet silence with a brush in my hand.</p>
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		By: Alice Kaltman		</title>
		<link>https://artcritical.com/2010/12/15/james-esber-2/#comment-2982</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alice Kaltman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a non-artist, and not very close friend of James&#039;, I was totally stoked when asked to participate in this project. My husband Daniel Wiener, a (mostly) sculptor and I did it side by side, at our kitchen table, he with his Art World ego in check, me with my Art World spouse attitude equally under control. We had a gas, giving over and trying to be Esberian. We listened to an audiobook while cross-hatching and self-deprecating the time away. 

I assumed (in a positive way) that part of James&#039; intention was to play with our egos, and end up with a cool finished product, all while we painstakingly drew a portrait of possibly the most terrifying egoist of our times. Having been on the periphery of the Art World for over two decades, I found this to be a very funny and ultimately ego-deflating experience, and I mean that in the most positive way.

All in all, a long-winded way of saying: Bring it on. I&#039;ll do more!

-Alice Kaltman, LCSW (Yes. that means I&#039;m a shrink)

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a non-artist, and not very close friend of James&#8217;, I was totally stoked when asked to participate in this project. My husband Daniel Wiener, a (mostly) sculptor and I did it side by side, at our kitchen table, he with his Art World ego in check, me with my Art World spouse attitude equally under control. We had a gas, giving over and trying to be Esberian. We listened to an audiobook while cross-hatching and self-deprecating the time away. </p>
<p>I assumed (in a positive way) that part of James&#8217; intention was to play with our egos, and end up with a cool finished product, all while we painstakingly drew a portrait of possibly the most terrifying egoist of our times. Having been on the periphery of the Art World for over two decades, I found this to be a very funny and ultimately ego-deflating experience, and I mean that in the most positive way.</p>
<p>All in all, a long-winded way of saying: Bring it on. I&#8217;ll do more!</p>
<p>-Alice Kaltman, LCSW (Yes. that means I&#8217;m a shrink)</p>
<p>,</p>
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		By: James Esber		</title>
		<link>https://artcritical.com/2010/12/15/james-esber-2/#comment-2523</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Esber]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 20:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David’s characterization of the spirit of the project , while meant partly to be satirical,  feels inaccurate to me. The largest component of this project was my interaction and relationship with  the participants,  all of whom  were  family or friends. I tried very hard to get a full spectrum of people, artists and non-artists, young and old to participate.  I included every completed drawing in the show,  making a frame and carefully mixing a color which I thought individuated it. For the record,  46 of the 108 participants identified themselves as artists, not the majority. For the most part, I was astounded and encouraged by how willing people were to participate. I did learn in the process that artists were the most likely to be conflicted though, and this makes total sense to me,  given that many have  identifiable styles of mark-making which  might have to be altered or suppressed in the process. I tried to avoid any idea of a “throw down”,  telling everyone specifically that the idea was not to copy my drawing , but to draw over the marks in a way that was natural to them. The end result is really a triple portrait, one part the drawing’s creator, one part Bin Laden and one part me. The relationship of each of these parts to the others is the subject of the project, and in each case the relationships are quite different. 

Incidently,  in the spirit of egalitarianism, the drawings are grouped in demographically mixed bunches for purchase and the profit is split evenly between  the creator,  Pierogi and myself. (Sorry, nothing for Bin Laden).

-James Esber]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David’s characterization of the spirit of the project , while meant partly to be satirical,  feels inaccurate to me. The largest component of this project was my interaction and relationship with  the participants,  all of whom  were  family or friends. I tried very hard to get a full spectrum of people, artists and non-artists, young and old to participate.  I included every completed drawing in the show,  making a frame and carefully mixing a color which I thought individuated it. For the record,  46 of the 108 participants identified themselves as artists, not the majority. For the most part, I was astounded and encouraged by how willing people were to participate. I did learn in the process that artists were the most likely to be conflicted though, and this makes total sense to me,  given that many have  identifiable styles of mark-making which  might have to be altered or suppressed in the process. I tried to avoid any idea of a “throw down”,  telling everyone specifically that the idea was not to copy my drawing , but to draw over the marks in a way that was natural to them. The end result is really a triple portrait, one part the drawing’s creator, one part Bin Laden and one part me. The relationship of each of these parts to the others is the subject of the project, and in each case the relationships are quite different. </p>
<p>Incidently,  in the spirit of egalitarianism, the drawings are grouped in demographically mixed bunches for purchase and the profit is split evenly between  the creator,  Pierogi and myself. (Sorry, nothing for Bin Laden).</p>
<p>-James Esber</p>
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