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	Comments on: A Future in Plastics: David Humphrey&#8217;s New Paintings	</title>
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		By: Norma Markley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 15:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fine piece of writing on a fine show. 
across the street shows on w.24th
color:color northside:southside: edruscha(colors):davidhumprhey(colors)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fine piece of writing on a fine show.<br />
across the street shows on w.24th<br />
color:color northside:southside: edruscha(colors):davidhumprhey(colors)</p>
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		By: McFly		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 16:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Changing sneakers reminds me of back to the future!!]]></description>
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		By: David Brody		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No offence intended to either acrylics or oils.  I like mud in oils, in the right hands.  You could argue that Soutine or 50s de Kooning or Susan Rothenberg are never muddy, almost by definition -- most people would.  But rich, ripe mud is the matrix of life; which is precisely why expressionist painting, for me, can and must get muddy from time to time.

As for acrylics, they are of course a more versatile medium than my short assessment above could credit. I worked in acrylics for 10 years. Paintings can be good or bad in both mediums, pretty much equally.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offence intended to either acrylics or oils.  I like mud in oils, in the right hands.  You could argue that Soutine or 50s de Kooning or Susan Rothenberg are never muddy, almost by definition &#8212; most people would.  But rich, ripe mud is the matrix of life; which is precisely why expressionist painting, for me, can and must get muddy from time to time.</p>
<p>As for acrylics, they are of course a more versatile medium than my short assessment above could credit. I worked in acrylics for 10 years. Paintings can be good or bad in both mediums, pretty much equally.</p>
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		By: CAP		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 14:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And in defense of acrylics can I add that where the acrylic painter may need more body or tooth to a given pigment there are thickening gels to augment consistency, and where greater gloss is required, there are gloss mediums (and indeed matt mediums) that allow the acrylic painter to adjust this quality to finish? 
 
Yes acrylic does normally dry faster than oils, but where the acrylic painter might prefer to work a passage longer or slower (say in delicately blending tones), there are retarder mediums, which slow the drying, depending how much you add to the mixing solvent. These have, incidentally, an oily, viscous quality, not unlike washing-up liquid (which you could probably also try - if you’re in a Willem de Kooning mood for experiment…)

But that said I generally agree with Brody’s assessment. For me, Humphery is brave for continually trying to accommodate more painterly qualities or issues in his work, for trying to frame painting in a pluralistic way  – the Oehlen call seems particularly apt in this respect – but at the same time the mix rarely seems quite right – unlike Oehlen. It’s something to do with the content, which is either too programatic  or too eccentric, perhaps personal. There’s either too much going on or not enough. It may be the price of over-ambition or just over-theorising.
   
The quote on Immendorff is telling in that Humphery identifies why the artist cannot allow his style to get too close to socialist realism or even political cartoon and so backs into a ‘refined anarchistic connoisseurship’ or ‘crappiness’ (effectively distinguishes Neo- Expressionism from plain Expressionism) but fails to see that this nevertheless takes ‘an interest’ in painting’s qualities – although not conventionally, a ‘good’ or approved one. Even being ‘bad’ ends up taking a certain amount of ‘refinement’ as he acknowledges.
 
For the postmodern or eclectic painter, the challenge would seem to be to show that ‘good’ and ‘bad’ depend on how they’re arranged, which content is allowed. But saying there are any number of goods or bads only presents the painter with too many, and at best the painter then tries to display a kind of arbitrary or fitful encounter. This seems to be the territory Humphery is intent on exploring, but I’m not convinced he’s entirely comfortable with it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And in defense of acrylics can I add that where the acrylic painter may need more body or tooth to a given pigment there are thickening gels to augment consistency, and where greater gloss is required, there are gloss mediums (and indeed matt mediums) that allow the acrylic painter to adjust this quality to finish? </p>
<p>Yes acrylic does normally dry faster than oils, but where the acrylic painter might prefer to work a passage longer or slower (say in delicately blending tones), there are retarder mediums, which slow the drying, depending how much you add to the mixing solvent. These have, incidentally, an oily, viscous quality, not unlike washing-up liquid (which you could probably also try &#8211; if you’re in a Willem de Kooning mood for experiment…)</p>
<p>But that said I generally agree with Brody’s assessment. For me, Humphery is brave for continually trying to accommodate more painterly qualities or issues in his work, for trying to frame painting in a pluralistic way  – the Oehlen call seems particularly apt in this respect – but at the same time the mix rarely seems quite right – unlike Oehlen. It’s something to do with the content, which is either too programatic  or too eccentric, perhaps personal. There’s either too much going on or not enough. It may be the price of over-ambition or just over-theorising.</p>
<p>The quote on Immendorff is telling in that Humphery identifies why the artist cannot allow his style to get too close to socialist realism or even political cartoon and so backs into a ‘refined anarchistic connoisseurship’ or ‘crappiness’ (effectively distinguishes Neo- Expressionism from plain Expressionism) but fails to see that this nevertheless takes ‘an interest’ in painting’s qualities – although not conventionally, a ‘good’ or approved one. Even being ‘bad’ ends up taking a certain amount of ‘refinement’ as he acknowledges.</p>
<p>For the postmodern or eclectic painter, the challenge would seem to be to show that ‘good’ and ‘bad’ depend on how they’re arranged, which content is allowed. But saying there are any number of goods or bads only presents the painter with too many, and at best the painter then tries to display a kind of arbitrary or fitful encounter. This seems to be the territory Humphery is intent on exploring, but I’m not convinced he’s entirely comfortable with it.</p>
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		By: CAROL DIEHL		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 18:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Please don&#039;t blame oil paint for mud! It is the most plastic, most resilient medium and, in the right hands, has no such tendency. In other words oil paint doesn&#039;t make mud, people do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t blame oil paint for mud! It is the most plastic, most resilient medium and, in the right hands, has no such tendency. In other words oil paint doesn&#8217;t make mud, people do.</p>
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