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		<title>The Review Panel from February 6th: Podcast</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2018 19:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Svetlana Alpers, Alex Bacon and Ken Johnson were David Cohen's guests</p>
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<figure id="attachment_75239" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-75239" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/mccall-e1516385072107.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-75239"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-75239" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/mccall-e1516385072107-275x220.jpg" alt="Anthony McCall" width="275" height="220" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/01/mccall-e1516385072107-275x220.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/01/mccall-e1516385072107.jpg 500w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-75239" class="wp-caption-text">Anthony McCall</figcaption></figure>
<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/254573704">Video One: Anthony McCall, Byron Kim</a></p>
<figure id="attachment_75795" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-75795" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/2017_Murphy_Stacked_PF4656_H.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-75795"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-75795" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/2017_Murphy_Stacked_PF4656_H-275x275.jpg" alt="Catherine Murphy" width="275" height="275" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2017/11/2017_Murphy_Stacked_PF4656_H-275x275.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2017/11/2017_Murphy_Stacked_PF4656_H-71x71.jpg 71w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2017/11/2017_Murphy_Stacked_PF4656_H-768x768.jpg 768w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2017/11/2017_Murphy_Stacked_PF4656_H-32x32.jpg 32w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2017/11/2017_Murphy_Stacked_PF4656_H-64x64.jpg 64w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2017/11/2017_Murphy_Stacked_PF4656_H-96x96.jpg 96w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2017/11/2017_Murphy_Stacked_PF4656_H-128x128.jpg 128w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2017/11/2017_Murphy_Stacked_PF4656_H-150x150.jpg 150w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2017/11/2017_Murphy_Stacked_PF4656_H.jpg 800w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-75795" class="wp-caption-text">Catherine Murphy</figcaption></figure>
<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/254585705">Video Two: Catherine Murphy, Jamian Juliano-Villani</a></p>
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		<title>March 2016, with Svetlana Alpers, Laurie Fendrich and David Salle</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2016 00:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Moderated by David Cohen at Brooklyn Public Library</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moderated by David Cohen at Brooklyn Public Library</p>
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<p>you can now also <em>see</em> The Review Panel with video posted to YouTube by the Brooklyn Public Library: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ_pbRMm5Yk&amp;feature=youtu.be</p>
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		<title>Hands On: Eve of CAA Convention Panel at Studio School by Art Historians on Making Art</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 18:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Svetlana Alpers, David Rosand and Robert Storr with David Cohen</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Panel Discussion: Svetlana Alpers, David Rosand and Robert Storr with David Cohen</strong><br />
<strong>New York Studio School, 8 West 8th Street, between Fifth and Sixth avenues, New York City</strong><br />
<strong>Tuesday, February 12 at 6.30 PM</strong></p>
<figure id="attachment_28648" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-28648" style="width: 504px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/storr.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-28648 " title="Robert Storr, Double Negative 1989. Oil on canvas. The Artist " src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/storr.jpg" alt="Robert Storr, Double Negative 1989. Oil on canvas. The Artist " width="504" height="503" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2013/02/storr.jpg 504w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2013/02/storr-71x71.jpg 71w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2013/02/storr-275x274.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 504px) 100vw, 504px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-28648" class="wp-caption-text">Robert Storr, Double Negative 1989. Oil on canvas. The Artist</figcaption></figure>
<p>As New York welcomes the <a href="http://conference.collegeart.org/2013/events/" target="_blank">College Art Association</a> to town for its 2013 annual convention, taking place February 13 to 16 at its usual New York location of the Hilton Hotel, a panel discussion at the New York Studio School on the eve of the meeting brings together distinguished art historians and critics to share their experiences and insights into the often vexed dual processes of writing about art and making it.</p>
<p>The panel, taking place in conjunction with the exhibition, <em>The Eye is Part of the Mind: Drawings from Life and Art by Leo Steinberg</em>, features art historians Svetlana Alpers and David Rosand, professors emerita/emeritus respectively of UC Berkeley and Columbia, and critic, curator and Dean of Yale’s School of Art Robert Storr.  The moderator is art critic, artcritical editor and self-confessed Sunday draftsman David Cohen.</p>
<p>Alpers, author of landmark studies of Rembrandt, Rubens, Velázquez and others, collaborated in 2007 with James Hyde and Barney Kulok on a photographic project titled <em>Painting Then For Now</em> that gathered fragments from a painting by G.B. Tiepolo in the Metropolitan Museum.  Several pieces from the series are now represented in the collection of the Museum of Modern Art, and the series was <a href="https://www.artcritical.com/2007/12/11/painting-then-for-now-fragments-of-tiepolo-at-the-ca-dolfin/" target="_blank">reviewed at artcritical</a> by David Carrier.</p>
<p>Rosand, author of major scholarly works on Venetian art, including several monographs on Titian, as well as a definitive study of Robert Motherwell’s works on paper, trained both as a studio artist and art historian.  And Storr, who served as a MoMA curator from 1990-2002 and subsequently taught art history at NYU’s  Institute of Fine Arts, trained first as a painter (at Swarthmore and the Art Institute of Chicago) and has always maintained a studio practice.</p>
<p>Cohen will be quizzing his distinguished guests on all the issues surrounding making versus writing: when and why did the professions part ways?Which good art writers, historically, kept a &#8220;hand in&#8221; and which kept their hands clean. In a post-studio and conceptual era, is it not increasingly difficult to separate theory and practice anyway? What does making art do for your own writing about it? And what does writing about art do for studio practice?</p>
<p>The exhibition of Steinberg’s drawings, meanwhile, also on view at the Studio School on the evening of the panel, is up through March 9.</p>
<figure id="attachment_28649" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-28649" style="width: 71px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/tiepolo.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-28649 " title="Svetlana Alpers, James Hyde, and Barney Kulok, Grasp, 2007. Pigmented inkjet print, 43 1/2 x 59 5/8 inches. Courtesy of the Museum of Modern Art, New York" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/tiepolo-71x71.jpg" alt="Svetlana Alpers, James Hyde, and Barney Kulok, Grasp, 2007. Pigmented inkjet print, 43 1/2 x 59 5/8 inches. Courtesy of the Museum of Modern Art, New York" width="71" height="71" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2013/02/tiepolo-71x71.jpg 71w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2013/02/tiepolo-150x150.jpg 150w" sizes="(max-width: 71px) 100vw, 71px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-28649" class="wp-caption-text">click to enlarge</figcaption></figure>
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		<title>April 2010: Alpers, Smith, and Viveros-Faune with moderator David Cohen</title>
		<link>https://artcritical.com/2010/04/23/april-2010-alpers-smith-and-viveros-faune/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>2010 Whitney Biennial</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>April 23, 2010 at the National Academy Museum and School of Fine Arts, New York</strong></p>
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<p>Svletlana Alpers, Roberta Smith, and Christian Viveros-Faune joined David Cohen to discuss the 2010 Whitney Biennial.<br />
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<figure id="attachment_8908" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-8908" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://artcritical.com/2010/04/23/april-2010-alpers-smith-and-viveros-faune/smoke/" rel="attachment wp-att-8908"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-8908" title="Pae White, Still, Untitled, 2010.  Installation at the 2010 Whitney Biennial" src="https://artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/smoke.jpg" alt="Pae White, Still, Untitled, 2010.  Installation at the 2010 Whitney Biennial" width="550" height="384" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2010/07/smoke.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2010/07/smoke-275x192.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-8908" class="wp-caption-text">Pae White, Still, Untitled, 2010. Installation at the 2010 Whitney Biennial</figcaption></figure>
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		<title>March 2008: Svetlana Alpers, Phong Bui, and Linda Nochlin  with moderator David Cohen</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Silvia Bächli at Peter Freeman, Inc., Michal Rovner at PaceWildenstein, Catherine Sullivan at Metro Pictures, Jeff Wall at Marian Goodman Gallery, and Dan Walsh at Paula Cooper Gallery</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>March 14, 2008 at the National Academy Museum and School of Fine Arts, New York</strong></p>
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<p>Svetlana Alpers, Phong Bui and Linda Nochlin joined David Cohen to review Silvia Bächli at Peter Freeman, Inc., Michal Rovner at PaceWildenstein, Catherine Sullivan at Metro Pictures, Jeff Wall at Marian Goodman Gallery, and Dan Walsh at Paula Cooper Gallery.</p>
<figure id="attachment_9589" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-9589" style="width: 243px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://artcritical.com/2008/03/14/review-panel-march-2008/silviabachli/" rel="attachment wp-att-9589"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-9589" title="Silvia Bächli, Untitled, 2007, India ink on paper, 18 x 24 Inches" src="https://artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/SilviaBachli.jpg" alt="Silvia Bächli, Untitled, 2007, India ink on paper, 18 x 24 Inches" width="243" height="175" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-9589" class="wp-caption-text">Silvia Bächli, Untitled, 2007, India ink on paper, 18 x 24 Inches</figcaption></figure>
<figure id="attachment_9590" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-9590" style="width: 263px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://artcritical.com/2008/03/14/review-panel-march-2008/michalrovner/" rel="attachment wp-att-9590"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-9590" title="Michal Rovner, Makom II, 2007-2008, Stone structure, 11 feet 10 inches x 16 feet 5 inches x 16 feet 5 inches" src="https://artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/MichalRovner.jpg" alt="Michal Rovner, Makom II, 2007-2008, Stone structure, 11 feet 10 inches x 16 feet 5 inches x 16 feet 5 inches" width="263" height="175" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-9590" class="wp-caption-text">Michal Rovner, Makom II, 2007-2008, Stone structure, 11 feet 10 inches x 16 feet 5 inches x 16 feet 5 inches</figcaption></figure>
<figure id="attachment_9591" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-9591" style="width: 278px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://artcritical.com/2008/03/14/review-panel-march-2008/jeffwall/" rel="attachment wp-att-9591"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-9591" title="Jeff Wall, Fortified Door, 2007, Silver gelatin print, 64 x 53 x 2 Inches" src="https://artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/JeffWall.jpg" alt="Jeff Wall, Fortified Door, 2007, Silver gelatin print, 64 x 53 x 2 Inches" width="278" height="350" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2010/08/JeffWall.jpg 278w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2010/08/JeffWall-238x300.jpg 238w" sizes="(max-width: 278px) 100vw, 278px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-9591" class="wp-caption-text">Jeff Wall, Fortified Door, 2007, Silver gelatin print, 64 x 53 x 2 Inches</figcaption></figure>
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		<title>Painting Then For Now; Fragments of Tiepolo at the Ca&#8217; Dolfin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Carrier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
				<category><![CDATA[Exhibitions]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Alpers| Svetlana]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[David Krut Projects]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Hyde| James]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Kulok| Barney]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Tiepolo| Giambattista]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>When these three Tiepolos at the Met were removed from the main salon of Ca’Dolfin, the intended site-specific lighting effects were lost. But Alpers, Hyde and Kulok recreate the way that, to quote Alpers and Baxandall, “the world, on Tiepolo’s account, presents a conundrum and his painting makes us conscious of having to work to make things out.”</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">Svetlana Alpers<br />
James Hyde<br />
Barney Kulok</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">David Krut Projects<br />
526 West 26th Street, #816,<br />
New York City<br />
(212) 255-3094</span></p>
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<figure style="width: 466px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><img loading="lazy" title="Svetlana Alpers, James Hyde, Barney Kulok Loop 2007 archival inkjet print, 13-1/2 x 12-1/2 inches Courtesy David Krut Projects " src="https://artcritical.com/carrier/images/loop.jpg" alt="Svetlana Alpers, James Hyde, Barney Kulok Loop 2007 archival inkjet print, 13-1/2 x 12-1/2 inches Courtesy David Krut Projects " width="466" height="500" /><figcaption class="wp-caption-text">Svetlana Alpers, James Hyde, Barney Kulok, Loop 2007 archival inkjet print, 13-1/2 x 12-1/2 inches Courtesy David Krut Projects </figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">Entering the European galleries of Metropolitan Museum of Art by going up the Grand Staircase you walk through a gallery with three enormous paintings from Ca’Dolfin, Venice: Giambatista Tiepolo’s <em>The Triumph of Marius, The Capture of Carthage, </em>and<em> The Battle of Vercellae</em> (1726-29).  These are not, in my experience, given much attention. Battle scenes with a multitude of figures whose identity isn’t obvious, they are good pictures for the entrance precisely because they don’t attract undue attention.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">These Tiepolos are the subject of “Painting Then For Now,” a collaboration between Svetlana Alpers, the famed art historian; James Hyde, the abstract painter; and Barney Kulok, a young photographer. Small sections of these pictures were photographed in a six-hour session, August 3, 2006, using an 8 by 10-inch camera. Nine negatives were scanned into a computer, and nineteen smaller portions chosen and printed on matte paper. The prints, two to three times the size of the paintings, are displayed at David Krut Projects, who published in the book accompanying the exhibition. They are identified by the represented details they contain. Thus <em>Tambourine</em> shows a hand on a tambourine, <em>Foot</em> a heel touching the ground, and <em>Trophy</em> a battle trophy.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">There are no tricks. Apart from color adjustment and minor rotations, there was no digital manipulation. Viewed without knowing their sources, the photographs seem to show small abstract details, body parts or fragments of objects. But they should really not be viewed in isolation, for this exhibition is meant to send you from Chelsea to the Met to identify the photographs’ sources. Because these Tiepolos are very large, and the details small, it takes a surprising amount of time to locate them. After an hour, I still couldn’t find three. In his Mellon lectures, <em>Painting as an Art </em>(1990) Richard Wollheim speaks of how in the process of slow looking he practiced, “I became an object of suspicion to passers-by, and so did the picture that I was looking at.” This happened also to me. Watching me pace the gallery, twice guards asked if I needed help, as if I were lost or disoriented.</span></p>
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<figure style="width: 252px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" title="Giovanni Battista Tiepolo The Triumph of Marius 1729 iil on canvas; irregular painted surface, 220 x 128-5/8 inches Metropolitan Museum of Art, Rogers Fund, 1965  " src="https://artcritical.com/carrier/images/tiepolo.jpg" alt="Giovanni Battista Tiepolo The Triumph of Marius 1729 iil on canvas; irregular painted surface, 220 x 128-5/8 inches Metropolitan Museum of Art, Rogers Fund, 1965  " width="252" height="432" /><figcaption class="wp-caption-text">Giovanni Battista Tiepolo, The Triumph of Marius 1729 oil on canvas; irregular painted surface, 220 x 128-5/8 inches Metropolitan Museum of Art, Rogers Fund, 1965  </figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">Wollheim’s goal, he says, was to wait “for stray associations or motivated misperceptions to settle down,” so that “the picture could be relied upon to disclose itself as it was.” Mine was simpler. I wanted to locate the sources of the photographs. <em>Loop</em>, I discovered, is a chain left center below the middle of <em>The Triumph of Marius</em>; <em>Siege</em> the besieged city at the left center of <em>The Capture of Carthage</em>; and <em>Dead Man</em> the man at the bottom right hand corner of <em>The Battle of Vercellae</em>.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">Most photographs come from near to the centers of the three paintings. But so far as I could see there is no obvious significance in this choice of details, nor any special order in their presentation. What counts, I think, is the process of looking provoked by “Painting Then For Now.”  While looking for such a long time at these three Tiepolos, you cannot but reflect upon the significance of that procedure. Since you don’t know where these to find the details selected by Alpers, Hyde and Kulok, you find yourself scanning intently the entire pictures. And it is natural, then, to go down the grand staircase or back to the Great Hall, to see the Tiepolos from a distance.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">“Painting Then For Now” raises deep, not easily resolved questions about old master painting, contemporary art, and their relationship. Tiepolo could </span><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">hardly have imagined that these photographs, so what do they tell us about his art? Do they impose our contemporary ways of seeing upon his paintings? Or, rather, in our society of the spectacle when usually visitors move fast forward through museums, do the photographs send us back to see his paintings as he intended that they should be viewed?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">By creating autonomous works of art of real interest, Alpers, Hyde and Kulok reveal much about how we look at visual art. Usually in Chelsea and at the Met, we are terribly rushed, as if we were looking at MTV.  Slow down, they urge us, and then we will see much more. In the book, <em>Tiepolo and the Pictorial Intelligence</em>(1994) she co-authored with Michael Baxandall, Alpers argues that “much of the idiosyncrasy” of his painting “results from his registering the activity of the mind as it grasps the world. This is regressive.  . . . Tiepolo’s own activity is by nature deconstructive.” His subjects are traditional, but his way of presenting makes them our contemporary.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">I can imagine no better demonstration of the argument of <em>Tiepolo and the Pictorial Intelligence</em> then this exhibition. When these three Tiepolos were removed from the main salon of Ca’Dolfin, the intended site-specific lighting effects were lost. But Alpers, Hyde and Kulok recreate the way that, to again quote Alpers and Baxandall, “the world, on Tiepolo’s account, presents a conundrum and his painting makes us conscious of having to work to make things out.”</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">According to a brochure written by the Met curator Keith Christiansen, Tiepolo “is the master of sunny visions.” In their photographs Alpers, Hyde and Kulok reveal a very different, I think more plausible interpretation of Tiepolo. “His world, as always elusive and a bit bleak, here serves as a version of war.” </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">The book associated with this exhibition is published David Krut Projects, 2007. ISBN 978-0-9584975-7-2.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">The Met’s account with reproductions of the paintings appears in Keith Christiansen, The Ca’ Dolfin Tiepolos (New York: The Metropolitan Museum of Art, 1998).</span></p>
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