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		<title>A Multifaceted Career: Raul Guerrero talks with Mary Jones</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>The Californian artist is showing early work at Ortuzar Projects</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Raul Guerrero at Ortuzar Projects</strong><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-weight: 400;">June 21 to July 27, 2018</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br />
</span><span style="font-weight: 400;">9 White Street, between  Sixth Avenue and West Broadway</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br />
</span><span style="font-weight: 400;">New York City, ortuzarprojects.com</span></p>
<figure id="attachment_79464" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-79464" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/mujer-raul.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-79464"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-79464" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/mujer-raul.jpg" alt="Raul Guerrero, La Mujer del Puerto,1993. Oil on linen, 80 x 108 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ortuzar Projects." width="550" height="412" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/mujer-raul.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/mujer-raul-275x205.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-79464" class="wp-caption-text">Raul Guerrero, La Mujer del Puerto,1993. Oil on linen, 80 x 108 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ortuzar Projects.</figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Since “Pacific Standard Time,” the comprehensive survey of art in Southern California from 1945 to 1980, organized in 2011 at multiple venues, documentation of artists from that innovative and experimental period has been on reset. The early 1970s, in particular, were a watershed, as young artists emerging in the wake of the game-changing 1963 Duchamp retrospective at the Pasadena Art Museum, turned to conceptual and performative practices the boundaries between them blurred. Some, like Ed Ruscha, extended the notion of object making into specific sites of investigation, the surreal nature of Southern California itself chief among them. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Raul Guerrero was born in 1945 in Brawley, California, and is currently living and working in San Diego. He was an active part of the groundbreaking scene of the early 1970s, and has continued in the decades since to contextualize the hybrid culture of Southern California.</span></p>
<figure id="attachment_79465" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-79465" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/mask-raul.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-79465"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-79465" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/mask-raul-275x413.jpg" alt="Raul Guerrero, The Rotating Yaqui Mask, 1973. Found object, painted wood, horn, with electric motor and foot pedal 18 x 20 x 15 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ortuzar Projects." width="275" height="413" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/mask-raul-275x413.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/mask-raul.jpg 333w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-79465" class="wp-caption-text">Raul Guerrero, The Rotating Yaqui Mask, 1973. Found object, painted wood, horn, with electric motor and foot pedal 18 x 20 x 15 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ortuzar Projects.</figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">In his second solo show in New York City, and his first at Ortuzar Projects, we’re introduced to over 20 years of Guerrero’s ongoing trajectory, from 1971 through 1993. That he began his career at a unique moment in Southern California isn’t lost on Guerrero—this is the time of Chris Burden’s most notorious performances, the 1972 Womanhouse of Judy Chicago and Miriam Schapiro, and the work of David Hammons, Bruce Nauman, John Baldessari (his first teacher) and Doug Wheeler. Al Ruppersberg, Jack Goldstein, Vija Celmins, William Leavitt, and James Welling were all Guerrero’s peers. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">In conversation, Guerrero often uses the phrase, “by coincidence,” usually in appreciation of the fortuitous events that marked his journey and aesthetic. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">“Since I was a child, every summer my family and I would travel north and work as migrant workers,” he says. “All the accoutrements we’d need for the summer, the pots and pans, everything, were loaded into the back of my father’s flatbed truck. As we’d go over the 101 Freeway, from the back of the truck I’d gaze out at the Capitol Building, and think, ‘Wow, this is Hollywood.’  We’d stop and cook our meals right by the side of the road, and join the encampments by the Merced River, and suddenly there’d be so many other people, Anglos, Oakies, African Americans, gypsies, Mexicans, and Mexicans from Texas. My aspiring family eventually became middle class, and at 16, I’m lying under a vineyard, wondering, what I’m going to do with my life? I hitchhike down to Mexico City and 4 years later I’m in Chouinard Art Institute. On the first day of class, I found myself sitting next to Jack Goldstein. Can you imagine? He looked just like Paul McCartney, and we became close friends.” </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">At the Chouinard, which later became part of CalArts, Guerrero understood Duchamp’s work instantly and found it liberating, the essential foundation of his aesthetic philosophy. Not only was he drawn to the concept of the assisted readymade, but also to the subliminal power of a single, iconic object or image. This, for Guerrero, resonated with another influence—Carl Jung’s theories of archetype and the collective unconscious.       </span></p>
<figure id="attachment_79467" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-79467" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/kettle-raul.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-79467"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-79467" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/kettle-raul-275x279.jpg" alt="Raul Guerrero, Teapot, 1971. Watercolor on paper, 4 x 4 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ortuzar Projects." width="275" height="279" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/kettle-raul-275x279.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/kettle-raul-71x71.jpg 71w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/kettle-raul-32x32.jpg 32w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/kettle-raul-64x64.jpg 64w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/kettle-raul-96x96.jpg 96w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/kettle-raul.jpg 493w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-79467" class="wp-caption-text">Raul Guerrero, Teapot, 1971. Watercolor on paper, 4 x 4 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ortuzar Projects.</figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Among the 46 pieces in the exhibition, the earliest are Guerrero’s Moroccan watercolors from 1971, shown here for the first time. These come with the intriguing backstory that sparked their creation. At the suggestion of his friend and mentor Ed Kienholz, Guerrero sold all his belongings and headed to Europe. “By coincidence” (again) he managed to meet everyone right away: sitting next to Francis Bacon at dinner in London, he meets Lee Miller, (Man Ray’s model and muse), and meets his idol, Richard Hamilton, and this is just the first week. He ventures down to Morocco, and soon was living on a few dollars a day in El Ksar Seghir, a small village outside of Tangier. The series of watercolors are intimately sized, as they were created to be postcards for his girlfriend. He shares the dazzling ambiance in beautifully patterned, detailed, and hallucinogenic pieces in which teapots, tiles and other domestic objects with their exotic symbols and arabesques vibrate in talismanic bands of energy—reverberations from the local hashish.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">After that summer, Guerrero returned to LA blazing. In just a few years he made significant bodies of work in photography, sculpture, performance, installation, and video. Each of these directions could have fuelled a lifetime of work. Guerrero is a gifted and emotional photographer, as evidenced by his California Sur Photographs from 1972. (He cites the Mexican movies of Luis Bunuel as a childhood passion.) These photos were his personal documentation of a two week road trip through Baja with artist friends. The compositions are effortless. Throughout his photographs, Guerrero’s utilization of light is mysterious, otherworldly, and exquisitely tender, as in the ethereal portrait, for example, of his elderly grandmother, who seems to hover between the tangible and spiritual realms. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Another standout in his multifaceted career is the assisted readymade: </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Rotating Yaqui Mask</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">(1974) is a seminal, declarative work. Guerrero describes this piece as a formal exploration of, and direct response to, Duchamp’s “Rotating Glass Disc,” but the personal choice of the Yaqui mask can be unsettling. For me, the psychic energy released from the mechanized spinning of this ritual object multiplies seismically in a fearsome way, the context feeling both taboo and dangerously displaced. Similarly, in his movie “Primitive Act” of 1974, Guerrero is squatting and naked among rocks and shrubs, reenacting the primitive discovery of fire.</span></p>
<figure id="attachment_79468" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-79468" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/granny-raul.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-79468"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-79468" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/granny-raul-275x276.jpg" alt="Raul Guerrero, Baja 03B, 1972 (printed 2016). Gelatin Silver print, 8 x 8 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ortuzar Projects." width="275" height="276" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/granny-raul-275x276.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/granny-raul-71x71.jpg 71w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/granny-raul-32x32.jpg 32w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/granny-raul-64x64.jpg 64w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/granny-raul-96x96.jpg 96w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/granny-raul-128x128.jpg 128w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/granny-raul-150x150.jpg 150w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/granny-raul.jpg 498w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-79468" class="wp-caption-text">Raul Guerrero, Baja 03B, 1972 (printed 2016). Gelatin Silver print, 8 x 8 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ortuzar Projects.</figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Seeking a more subjective, and pliable medium, since the 1980s Guerrero has focused on oil painting. Among those on view are four selections from his Oaxaca series from 1984 plus </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">La Mujer of the Puerto</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> from 1993. The Oaxaca series was done on location and, like the Moroccan watercolors, he entrenches himself in the history and culture of this particular place. Guerrero treats stylistic representation like a local language and adapts a flat colonialist style relevant to his theme. Like many of the painters he admires —Walter Robinson, Neil Jenney, Lisa Yuskavage and Alida Cervantes — Guerrero opens the door to Kitsch and pulp desire. As if he is writing a detective novel, heembeds layers and clues in his post-conceptual approach. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Much of Guerrero’s process involves honing his attention and allowing his emotional responses to connect him not only to his own history but to that of the culture at large.He interprets his painting </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Vista de Bonampak</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> (1984) for me:  “I want to capture not only what represents the place for me, but also a critique of the culture, so after visiting the archeological ruins of  Bonampak, once a Mayan city near Chiapas, Mexico, I imagined a jaguar, coveted within Mayan culture for ferocity and strength, stumbling on the scene of the murals, depicting men dressed as jaguar knights, in jaguar skins, capturing enemies for sacrificial purposes who are also dressed in jaguar skins.  Although I might question who is the most vicious creature in the jungle, I also want to make paintings that are interesting and beautiful. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">“There’s a lot that can be said about the brutality of the system, especially with our current president, but I prefer images that don’t delve into it overtly.”</span></p>
<figure id="attachment_79470" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-79470" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/vista-raul.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-79470"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-79470" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/vista-raul-275x403.jpg" alt="Raul Guerrero, Vista de Bonampak, 1984. Oil on canvas 54.5 x 37.25 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ortuzar Projects." width="275" height="403" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/vista-raul-275x403.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/vista-raul.jpg 341w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-79470" class="wp-caption-text">Raul Guerrero, Vista de Bonampak, 1984. Oil on canvas 54.5 x 37.25 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ortuzar Projects.</figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">After 40 years of structured study of North America, Guerrero has a new theory:  “Because we&#8217;re living on a continent that was occupied by indigenous people through millennia, and their voice has been suppressed, their culture, especially in the artworld, is changing things subliminally by gaining a voice though artists, one way or another. It&#8217;s a philosophical and cultural virus that&#8217;s spreading. For example, John Baldessari grew up in National City, like I did, ten miles from the border. Now, here’s a major artist, he goes to Mexico and is exposed to all this stuff that you see coming out of Mexico that’s really interesting, but in fact it’s all indigenous culture. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">“If you dig tacos, you’re being affected by an indigenous culture. You&#8217;re consuming part of that philosophical virus. It’s full of indigenous material: tortilla, beans, corn, the way it’s prepared—it changes the way you see your reality. What that reality is I’m not sure, but somehow that essence, that philosophy, is expressing itself nonetheless into the culture unbeknownst to us. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">“In this encounter between culture and things,” he says, “your sense of reality is shifted. Artists like Baldessari, who’s making art about culture on a large scale, has had his view shifted, and then he turned all these other guys on at CalArts. Bizarre, right?” </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Guerrera is planning a trip to the Amazon sometime later this year. </span></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Ancestors at Gagosian thru' June 16</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>Jenny Saville: Ancestors</em>, at Gagosian Gallery, New York, on view through June 16, is the British artist&#8217;s first solo presentation in New York since 2011. She is also, concurrently, the subject of a survey exhibition at the Scottish National Gallery of Modern Art, Edinburgh. </strong></p>
<figure style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/fates-install.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-78778"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-78778 size-full" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/fates-install.jpg" alt="Installation view: Jenny Saville: Ancestors, Gagosian Gallery, New York 2018, showing, left to right, Fate 3, Fate 1, Fate 1, all 2018. Photography by Rob McKeever. Courtesy Gagosian." width="550" height="407" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/fates-install.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/fates-install-275x205.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /></a><figcaption class="wp-caption-text">Installation view: Jenny Saville: Ancestors, Gagosian Gallery, New York 2018, showing, left to right, Fate 3, Fate 1, Fate 1, all 2018. Photography by Rob McKeever. Courtesy Gagosian.</figcaption></figure>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Julie, on Facebook you described a painting by Jenny Saville on view in her show at Gagosian Gallery as &#8220;the most beautiful painting I’ve seen in a long time&#8221; and 150 friends liked or loved that post. In the comments section, Dennis Kardon wrote: &#8220;You and David Cohen are going to have an interesting discussion,&#8221; referencing no doubt my <a href="https://www.artcritical.com/2011/10/06/jenny-saville/">highly critical</a> artcritical review of her last New York show. Dennis wrote <a href="http://www.artnet.com/magazine_pre2000/features/kardon/kardon10-26-99.asp" target="_blank">enthusiastically</a> about her work in 1999 (it was his first piece of published art criticism, and was edited by Walter Robinson.) What is it about her new show, Julie that, as you put it on Facebook, &#8220;knocked you out&#8221;?</p>
<p>JULIE HEFFERNAN<br />
Up to this point I hadn’t been much of a fan of Jenny Saville’s. She’d cornered the market on paint-as-flesh, no doubt, but I never felt like she cared much about what was inside the figures she was painting, or showed us anything deeper than bloated, mottled and dejected skin. But several paintings in her latest Gagosian show blew those notions away and stopped me in my tracks. Her <em>Fate</em> paintings (<em>Fate 1, Fate 2 </em>and <em>Fate 3</em>) went somewhere I didn’t expect – melding abstraction and figuration in a way that furthered the scope of both, and bringing black bodies and white bodies together into new-fangled icons through muscular paint and sheer pictorial power. To my mind these paintings raised the bar on figuration, and that’s rare.</p>
<p>Painterly stylishness had limited Saville up until now, but in these <em>Fate</em> paintings I’m not as conscious of her style as much as her intelligent pictorial choices that give me the sense that she’s gone beyond realism (or expressionism) towards the iconic. Where before she would mask out areas in order to break up the integrity of the figure, and thereby sidestep realism, now she’s using those masked areas to complicate the figure’s integrity, suggest the mess inside, or alternatively provide it with extra appendages to increase its capacity to express multiplicities.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
Maybe because of the peculiar emptiness the ugliness in earlier work seemed manipulative. Many of these new paintings stopped me in my tracks! The scale, color, content and play with abstraction are exciting and original. They refer to so many different things but they&#8217;re entirely their own.</p>
<p>This is the first show of hers, I should say, that I&#8217;ve had a positive response to. I&#8217;m a big fan of abject beauty: I taught myself to paint by viewing cadavers in the medical school and a boyfriend even moved out on me because of the pig&#8217;s head (and a few other specimens) in the freezer. I adore Soutine’s still life paintings, Rembrandt&#8217;s sides of beef and Lucian Freud&#8217;s paintings of Lee Bowery. While I was impressed by the scale, and of course the paint handling, her previous paintings for the most part have seemed ugly in a calculated or gratuitous way.</p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON<br />
Almost twenty years ago I wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Saville simply overwhelms the viewer with paint as flesh. The specificity of her subject matter raises issues about the nature of spontaneity and control in painting. And because these bodies are painted, and therefore inhabited by the artist&#8230;they don’t have the distanced quality of the photographic work of other artists who have dealt with body image and gender issues.</p></blockquote>
<p>As her career progressed however, I became gradually disenchanted with what I perceived as strategic employment of painting conventions that started to feel a bit rote, and an increase in scale for the sake of filling up a mega space. David’s review, though a bit scathing, generally captured my feeling about what had occurred in her work.</p>
<p>My remark about the discussion was a reference to a chance encounter with David and Barry in Chelsea after first seeing the current show. My immediate reaction was that she had redeemed herself a lot, and I had taken a lot of detail shots of memorable moments. But David was so negative it made me reconsider, until at least, he compared her unfavorably to Tracey Emin at Frieze which I am pretty sure was an unmitigated waste of perfectly nice white walls.</p>
<figure id="attachment_78779" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-78779" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Vis-and-Ramin-I..jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-78779"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-78779" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Vis-and-Ramin-I..jpg" alt="Jenny Saville, Vis and Ramin I, 2018. Oil on canvas, 98-1/2 x 137-7/8 inches. © Jenny Saville. Photography by Mike Bruce. Courtesy Gagosian." width="550" height="392" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/Vis-and-Ramin-I..jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/Vis-and-Ramin-I.-275x196.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-78779" class="wp-caption-text">Jenny Saville, Vis and Ramin I, 2018. Oil on canvas, 98-1/2 x 137-7/8 inches. © Jenny Saville. Photography by Mike Bruce. Courtesy Gagosian.</figcaption></figure>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
If it’s beauty, it’s beauty of an abject kind, which has always been her thing — heavy models, grossly presented. A rather ugly beauty, I would say. Lisa Yuskavage is a good pendant here. Beauty also lies in her mastery of an academic drawing style, which recalls a 19th-century formula in service to a classical ideal. Those are her avant-garde bona fides, the rehabilitation of an essentially conservative technique for subjects of contemporary relevance, notably the body and gender identity.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
I&#8217;m the opposite of Julie and Brenda in that I&#8217;ve always been interested in Saville&#8217;s paintings, and sometimes like them quite a lot. People always used to compare her to Freud, and I understand why, but to me that was the wrong analogy. She was more like Anselm Kiefer—I mean the really good Kiefer, the one from the 1980s. The body was to her as the landscape to him. I didn&#8217;t find his wounded landscapes ugly, nor the tormented paint by which he depicted it, and I never found her abject bodies or her storms of paint ugly either—quite the opposite. But I didn&#8217;t care for these new paintings at all. I don&#8217;t like the self-evident &#8220;painting of collage&#8221; trope, and she seems to be drawing in a more conventional way as well as being more restrained in her paint handling.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
It’s interesting that you compare her earlier work to Kiefer. I agree, they are more Kiefer than Freud because her figures have little physiological content. They were all surface, same as Kiefer. And same as Kiefer, you think they’re about something else and then discover that they’re equally empty.</p>
<p>JULIE HEFFERNAN<br />
It might be worthwhile to keep the discussion to the three <em>Fate</em> paintings since I agree with you all about the other works in the show, but thought those three <em>Fates</em> were of a different order altogether.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
A generous reading is a good thing. It reminds me of Richard Prince’s goofy brilliant combos of de Kooning and gay porn.</p>
<p>Julie is certainly right about the paint-as-flesh thing, but sections of these works were basically deft contour drawings filled in with even defter Ab-Ex-style brushwork. Interesting, but a bit silly?</p>
<p>I didn’t even notice the race thing, since I was only there a few minutes, and the overwhelming impression is pink. (An artist works for a year on a show; a critic walks in and after two minutes says “it sucks.”) But I’ll go right now to take another look. What about her pseudo-cubist figures? There’s a new move.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
I went back yesterday for a proper visit after coming to a comparable conclusion to Walter from two minutes at the opening reception, and I&#8217;m afraid that closer examination and doing my utmost to sit openly with the work has not led to epiphanies. I find these to be disingenuous academic machines. Look, there is no question that Jenny Saville has exceptional technical abilities and genuine intellectual ambition, but I suspect that the adulation that has followed from these rare qualities has been corrupting. Her early work married painting chops and youthful feminist indignation to produce startling, if shallow, results, but she has &#8220;matured&#8221; into a shameless crowd pleaser. I can&#8217;t believe such sensitive individuals as the artists here aren&#8217;t seeing the wood for the trees. Photos have been projected onto canvases and lines traced; paint has been slathered in gratuitous faux-expressivity to generate effects; images have been chopped up to connote visual deconstruction. But there&#8217;s no real drawing, painting or collage going on in these concoctions.</p>
<p>JULIE HEFFERNAN<br />
Well as a painter I was respectfully floored by that piling up of paint, plus wiping, scraping, knowing when to stop and when to pile more on.  That&#8217;s not easy!  In her earlier work I knew exactly how she made those paintings, but this new work is so layered and the decisions about when to stop and when to keep going so seamlessly articulated &#8211; that&#8217;s amazing painting.  You try it!</p>
<p>As for David’s contention that there is no real drawing going on &#8211; look at <em>Fate 2</em>  and the deft placement of that thick blue line forming a square right in the middle of the figure, and what it’s doing to cause the whole assortment of body parts to pivot around it. It’s doing so many things: It’s the thing that allows the icon to be both passive and active, asserting the power of that body to suggest a kind of centrifugal movement of becoming, while also exuding a marmoreal presence; it’s also reinforcing the presence of the left breast, now lost to scraping and turned into negative space. That one squiggly line comes totally out of the blue (as it were) but is doing so much to power up the form and reinforce this idea of multiplicities.</p>
<p>Regarding the black and white bodies: Yes, she pulled it off! She deftly insinuated a white body into (onto) a black body, and vice versa. In one, the white body is in the middle of black limbs, (all the heads are either of black women or, in the case of <em>Fate 3</em>, from an African sculpture of a woman) but not overwhelming them or dominating in any way—they’re both equally present in the form. In <em>Fate 3</em> the &#8220;limbs&#8221; are more like weird appendages that take the form to places I&#8217;ve never seen Saville go. She’s forged an icon of a black and white Shiva-like woman with the many limbs. Glorious!</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
I feel you David but is it really fair to presume success has gone to her head? Artists are always having things in their heads, and success breeds confidence and ambition, etc. And what is “real” painting, drawing and collage, and why privilege it? Collage is giving new energy to abstract painting at the moment, why not figuration?</p>
<figure id="attachment_78780" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-78780" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/install-pieta-nochlin-thread.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-78780"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-78780 size-full" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/install-pieta-nochlin-thread.jpg" alt="Installation view: Jenny Saville: Ancestors, Gagosian Gallery, New York 2018, showing, left to right, Blue Pieta, 2018; Chapter (For Linda Nocholin), 2016-2018; Thread, 2017-2018. Photography by Rob McKeever. Courtesy Gagosian." width="550" height="290" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/install-pieta-nochlin-thread.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/install-pieta-nochlin-thread-275x145.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-78780" class="wp-caption-text">Installation view: Jenny Saville: Ancestors, Gagosian Gallery, New York 2018, showing, left to right, Blue Pieta, 2018; Chapter (For Linda Nocholin), 2016-2018; Thread, 2017-2018. Photography by Rob McKeever. Courtesy Gagosian.</figcaption></figure>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
You admire her bravura technique, but what is the project at the service of which she puts it? To me, the equations she makes between different kinds of representation and different kinds of abstraction, as well as between different kinds of imagery, seem pretty flat and familiar.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
That’s such a weird question, Barry, “what is the project at the service of which she puts it?” Put the question aside and approach them more visually. There’s a lot of pleasure to be had and for that might to enough.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Pleasure is never enough.</p>
<p>Julie, I don&#8217;t doubt that the pyrotechnics here take bravura and acumen to pull off. But really, we at Gagosian Gallery looking at massive canvases by an international art star for sale at top dollar; it is the painterly equivalent of a Hollywood blockbuster. If the movie sucks we don&#8217;t applaud the music and special effects.</p>
<p>Walter is right that one should indeed use any device that works if the result is a powerful image. But “real drawing” is where the lines are put down with purpose, where the energy is one of inquiry and/or assuredness. Her line is gimmicky. She generates false <em>pentimenti </em>to make the drawing look &#8220;old masterly&#8221;. Her paint slathering is like pushing a button in Photoshop marked &#8220;AbEx&#8221;; they don&#8217;t come out of the existential maelstrom of creativity. Her collage is saying, we are made up of this and that; real collage is about opening oneself up to the marvelous and the unknown.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
It&#8217;s interesting that you and I, David—the two non-practitioners here—are much less sympathetic to these paintings than the painters here. That&#8217;s something that makes me think I should reconsider my response— though I still don&#8217;t know how!</p>
<p>SUZY SPENCE<br />
It’s interesting to me that in her piece dedicated to Linda Nochlin is sort of squirreled away in the back, when Nochlin’s ideas should operate as the catalyst for the entire show. Ancestors, yes, Saville seems obsessed with the problematic of “genius”, but rather than destroy that concept she’d rather run a race with every great man who made a mark in the Western canon to see how she measures up. She paints extraordinarily well, but that’s actually beside the point. <em>Chapter (for Linda Nochlin) </em>in charcoal on cotton duck canvas, recalls the particularly beautiful study by da Vinci, The Virgin and Christ with St. Anne. But Leonardo’s women are locked in high-minded, existential conversation and seem incredibly connected to one another whereas Saville’s women are piled on one another anonymously, beautifully drawn as forms with a fullness and accuracy. But I don’t understand who these women are, and why we should care about them.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
I guess I should now take back what I just said about the critics vs. the painters.</p>
<p>SUZY SPENCE<br />
And I agree with David about special effects. Nicole Eisenman steals more effectively and is just as nimble a virtuoso. By comparison I would say Saville is a mannerist, and less able to fully employ the styles she robs, at least not in this show.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
The thing that I found especially irritating about the piece Suzy is talking about, <em>Chapter (For Linda Nochlin), </em>is the way she spray painted trompe l&#8217;oeil extra sheets at various junctures in emulation of Frank Auerbach (another of her early mentors) who sticks extra paper on when he wants to extend an image or repair a support punctured by incessant correction. There&#8217;s no correction here; the image is totally calculated, along with its arsenal of effects.</p>
<p>SUZY SPENCE<br />
Brenda, I never think beautiful paint is enough. Press releases in recent years try too hard to align her with a list of great (dead) white men, which must be some incredible weight for her to bear. I wish Saville would make an escape to the woods where she could return to the introspection she’d invested in earlier. She used to reach into her soul and hand it to us, but I’m not seeing that now.</p>
<figure id="attachment_78781" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-78781" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Fate-1.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-78781"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-78781 size-medium" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Fate-1-275x297.jpg" alt="Jenny Saville, Fate 1, 2018. Oil on canvas, 102-3/8 x 94-1/2 inches © Jenny Saville. Photography by Mike Bruce. Courtesy Gagosian." width="275" height="297" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/Fate-1-275x297.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/Fate-1.jpg 463w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-78781" class="wp-caption-text">Jenny Saville, Fate 1, 2018. Oil on canvas, 102-3/8 x 94-1/2 inches © Jenny Saville. Photography by Mike Bruce. Courtesy Gagosian.</figcaption></figure>
<p>JULIE HEFFERNAN<br />
The so-called project she is serving in these three paintings seems to be of the utmost importance right now, post Dana Schutz and even vis a vis Kara Walker&#8217;s show where so many black bodies were made to look as foolish in places as the white bodies looked malign. These <em>Fates</em> are proud bodies and full of fluid possibilities.  I always thought the real reason Dana&#8217;s Emmett Till painting didn&#8217;t work ultimately was because it wasn&#8217;t painted well enough, with the kind of weird surprising paint and drawing that, for instance, her Michael Jackson painting had. We&#8217;re not here to go over Schutz again, but it was really interesting to see someone with such good intentions fail so miserably at trying to bridge the race gap, whereas here now with these <em>Fate</em> paintings no one is making any noise at all about a white artist&#8217;s right to depict a black body. That&#8217;s an <em>important project</em>, Barry</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
The problem with Schutz’s <em>Open Casket</em> is that it was decorative to the point of insulting the viewer. I remember at the Whitney opening noticing the painting from the corner of my eye and registering it as an attractive painting but having no feeling for the subject whatsoever. There was nothing about it visually that hinted at the horror of the content. I don’t want to say it lacked empathy but to take a horrifying event and turn it into attractive paint is bad painting at best.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
Making no noise is a great accomplishment? I don&#8217;t think so. When the conflict blew up over the Sam Durant sculpture at the Walker, I was surprised when I read that it been exhibited at Documenta, because I&#8217;d seen and written about that Documenta and didn&#8217;t remember the piece. I read back over what I&#8217;d written and confirmed that I hadn&#8217;t mentioned it. Then I got curious, and read all the other Documenta reviews I could find online. Not a single one mentioned Durant&#8217;s sculpture. That didn&#8217;t make me think it was harmless in Germany but volatile in Minnesota. It made me think that the piece was so mediocre no one felt obliged to think about it— until a different context focused a different kind of attention on it. I guess Saville, being British, won&#8217;t be included in the next Whitney Biennial, but if she were, there might be some interesting responses. Oh, and by the way, Dana&#8217;s Emmett Till painting is a very good work.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Saville isn&#8217;t depicting a black body directly, but an African carving. The flesh montaged over the fetish is Caucasian, as best one can tell—or race is at any event not axiomatic. The incorporation of the carving recalls David Salle to me. These <em>Fates</em> are interesting images. But can we get past white-woman-painting-black-people silliness and just ask what it means, what it is really saying?</p>
<p>JULIE HEFFERNAN<br />
<em>Fate 3 </em>and <em>Fate 2</em> have heads of black women; they&#8217;re not carvings. And what they’re really saying is totally prosaic when put into words: “out of all these multiplicities we&#8217;re also one.” How boring is that when distilled down to mere words. But that&#8217;s where the art comes in – she’s created a medley of fluid bodies and I revel in it! I <em>so</em> appreciate when an artist takes on big themes, unwieldy problems, and does it unstintingly, and more importantly, without <em>irony</em>! And Barry, you cannot just claim the Schutz <em>Open Casket</em> is a good painting without saying why.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
Suzy, I don&#8217;t think she was reaching into her soul in the earlier works and they were not beautiful. By putting aside the content of the previous work and focusing on the excitement of the paint, I think she has a chance of saying something less calculated and more authentic and in the end, more ambitious. I agree with David though, the drawing is a bit flat.</p>
<p>David Salle is a good comparison, and not just because of the African carving, but also because of the random layering of images. When I made etchings with David, we would print the plates, each with different images on them in various combinations until something happened. When they worked, they worked. But we were not asking what they were saying.</p>
<figure id="attachment_19344" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-19344" style="width: 251px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Propped.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-19344"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-19344" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Propped-251x300.jpg" alt="Jenny Saville, Propped, 1992. Oil on Canvas, 213.5 x 183cm. The Saatchi Collection, London" width="251" height="300" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2011/10/Propped-251x300.jpg 251w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2011/10/Propped.jpg 360w" sizes="(max-width: 251px) 100vw, 251px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-19344" class="wp-caption-text">Jenny Saville, Propped, 1992. Oil on Canvas, 213.5 x 183cm. The Saatchi Collection, London</figcaption></figure>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Salle is a formalist to his fingertips; they &#8220;worked&#8221; because they clicked into something startling and satisfying in equal measure, no doubt. But Saville isn&#8217;t a formalist. She&#8217;s always been interested in themes. I take issue with the dismissal of her early work &#8211; the fat self-portrait in Propped and the liposuction paintings. They were totally authentic in the personal and political urgency of their issues and persuasive in marrying painterly marvel and bodily discomfort.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
Thank you, David. I agree with what you say about Saville’s earlier work!</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Dennis assumes, incorrectly, that I must have been joking in finding Tracey Emin&#8217;s figuration more convincing than Saville’s. I think both artists, in their latest works, are dealing with the body through mark making. Both are mannerists, but Emin is served well by restricting herself to mannerisms of abstract expressionism. She was channeling Roger Hilton, an English abstract painter who struggled with &#8211; and exploited &#8211; alcohol addiction in his figurative experiments. There&#8217;s plenty to fault in Emin&#8217;s results but it is a kind of escape to the woods, in Suzy&#8217;s sense, that Saville isn&#8217;t up for.</p>
<p>SUZY SPENCE<br />
Brenda, her early paintings seemed distinctly feminist to me and feminist artists are <em>Man Repellers</em> by nature. In her early work there was no willingness to please; she wanted to repel you with her fleshy body and suck you in with her painting technique at the same time. That tension no longer exists, and so the work is flat as Barry says.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
Julie’s mention of Schutz is apt since Dana especially activates the decorative quality of her paint strokes, which are little masterpieces in themselves. In the meantime, objections to these works because of an absence of “soul” is, well, <em>retardataire</em> and romantic. Postmodernism is about a human world without such constructions. Some viewers prefer the art without the mystification! Do we look for “soul” in Salle or Sherman, for instance?</p>
<p>SUZY SPENCE<br />
Well then you should love this work Walter! It’s perfectly postmodern and cold.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
Not cold enough by a long shot! The depiction of faces in particular seemed to invite empathy in a really blatant way. And how sentimental the use of the pietà idea!</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Yeah, especially that schlocky pietà of a guy coming out of a war zone with a sexed-up infant in his arms, pure pompier.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
Wish I hadn’t seen that one.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
To return to Walter’s question, Salle and Sherman spare us any quest for &#8220;soul&#8221; because of their knowingly constructed style. Their tropes arrive and function intact. Saville isn&#8217;t deconstructing anyone else&#8217;s technique at this stage, she is merely tapping into effects. I agree with Julie that they are free of irony. They are anything but art about art, which is why their mannerisms are all the more egregious.</p>
<p>JULIE HEFFERNAN<br />
Yes she has a lot of effects in this show but towards a more interesting end than in earlier shows she&#8217;s had. Would you consider the wings and appendages in <em>Fate 3</em> to be mere &#8220;effects&#8221;? Because to me those are essential components of the structure of the work, acting boldly to move it in space, to suggest hybridity and composite bodies, all necessary for the bigger project at hand.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
By wings to you mean the smudged arcs over the left shoulder of the amalgamated figure? I am reading drawing on a wall in the studio (pace the baseboard behind the pedestal) that serves the functional purpose of saying that the figure is an artificial studio-bound creation.</p>
<p>JULIE HEFFERNAN<br />
I mean the chair-like appendage (in <em>Fate 3</em>) attached to her shoulder to the right, and the lobster claw shape to the left — those are essential components to the icon’s whole structure. The smudges behind the form just reinforce the integrity of the overall monolithic shape she’s trying to create. Notice also how the big strokes of yellow paint within the big reddish brown shape to the bottom right reinforces the horizontal ankle attached to the foot, that is also another pedestal for the icon, as well as a pivot point for the whole structure above, and also causes the mars red shape to turn in space, and thereby shift the plane of that shape from horizontal to vertical, like a chair. So it’s a multiplicity of things – a chair-like thing, a cape-like thing, a drooping wing-like thing: super interesting!</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON (from the Gallery)<br />
Standing in front of the paintings, my second look, I have to say they’re awesome. The sense of play is overwhelming — the artist in the studio, making pictures one at a time, doing this and that — a big hand expertly tendered here, some scratchy Twomblyesque marks there, a witty pose overall — amusing herself, pleasing herself — it’s just so good — artists have an alibi, all they really have to do is represent the individual subject, not be the World Shaper.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
Wow, great Walter! But what about the pietàs? Blue Pietà is icky in an Odd Nerdrum way.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
I wish we could be having this discussion in front of the paintings.</p>
<p>But I want to go back to something said a little while back and register the fact that I don&#8217;t understand the idea of saying one artist is a formalist and another is something else. A combination that works for David Salle is one that conveys a certain feeling, I think. Why is that &#8220;formalism&#8221;? What made Saville&#8217;s earlier paintings work for me were formal aspects— these conveyed her themes in ways that worked for me. The themes without the forms wouldn&#8217;t have done that.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
That’s an important point, Barry.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
Somehow, David, I don’t think they’re projected. If they are, she’s definitely unparalleled at it.</p>
<p>How a viewer sees these things is totally parti pris. They can seem kitsch or heartfelt. You know the head in the pieta is a <em>kouros</em>. And four-armed dead body carried from the ruins by the chap in Seventh Seal garb is too clean by half. Other works look like her friends posing nude together — warm and real, and a real subject. In the end, she’s an artist; she can do what she wants, and the hell with piffle from the critics!</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
Hear! Hear!</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Hmm. Well, I certainly don&#8217;t like to project moral outrage at any means employed if the results are convincing.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
These people&#8230;</p>
<figure id="attachment_78784" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-78784" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/walter-delos.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-78784"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-78784" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/walter-delos-275x367.jpg" alt="Jenny Saville, Delos, 2017-18. Detail, photographed by Walter Robinson" width="275" height="367" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/walter-delos-275x367.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/walter-delos.jpg 375w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-78784" class="wp-caption-text">Jenny Saville, Delos, 2017-18. Detail, photographed by Walter Robinson</figcaption></figure>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
OK, well let&#8217;s talk about that scribble in and underneath. What is it trying to say? Are these automata from Westworld and this is the machinery where their viscera should be? I don&#8217;t think so. Did she do some scribble underneath to get her juices flowing, and then started her beaux arts painting on top of that and then Gagosian came and whisked the picture off before she could finish it? No, this is effect. a way of saying this is a contemporary painting, not the academic, anachronistic figure painting it would otherwise look to be, because squiggles are modern. That&#8217;s mannerism at its worst to me. But if someone could offer me a reading of the use of this device that energizes their understanding of the image, I&#8217;m all ears.</p>
<p>SUZY SPENCE<br />
Walter and David, I don’t think they are projected onto canvas. I imagine an athletic event that called for giant easels and enough space and light to study her subjects who she actually asked to recline on pedestals and chairs. I think she’s working from life; I imagine a string of models, most of whom appear in her studio the way actors come in for an audition. I sense she doesn’t know many of them, as there is such similarity of body type and age, like she&#8217;d advertised the project on Craig’s List. People in their late 30s, some black, mostly white. My favorite piece was Vis and Ramen I, who are both in recline like Manet’s Olympia. They sink deeper into their pedestal than her other subjects, their genitals almost touch, and I was fascinated by her decision not to establish that contact.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
Suzy, I don’t think that’s true. In the 2003 press release from her <em>Migrants</em> show it mentions that she prefers to work from photographs rather than living models. “Saville calls herself a scavenger of images.” Her studio is a repository of images from old medical journals of bruises, scars, images of deformities and disease. In this sense her relationship with her subject matter is more Salle then Soutine or Freud and it’s evident in this newer work.</p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON (returning to the conversation)<br />
Sorry to weigh in so late. I got sidetracked.</p>
<p>Although I am sure she couldn’t possibly be working from life, even twenty years ago I was unsure how she got from the photo to the canvas, though now it seems obvious computers are involved. Even then Saville seemed to challenge the improvisational constraints of either grid or projector. Both then and now the paint seemed spontaneously slapped on, but without the flatness of most paintings made from projected photographs. It is what makes them look so contemporary. They have all they dynamics of spontaneous paint handling, and the specific sureness without any of the uncertainty of where to put the paint. Something that Walter, can surely attest to. But though it would certainly indicate a super human talent if they were painted from life, I think it hardly matters conceptually how she manages to accomplish her paintings.</p>
<p>I think beauty, abject or otherwise, takes us nowhere productive.</p>
<p>Barry squarely solves the problem with his question about content, because this kind of analysis is the error that takes us away from what is actually happening in the paintings. This what has confused me. I will look at the paintings and be totally taken in, and even studying the details, I am amazed at the frisson between spontaneity and specificity. Then I get home and try to answer analytical questions about “to what end” and the project starts to fall apart. Walter had the perfect response, he was dismissive at first, in his critical self, but when his painter self went to study them again, was impressed.</p>
<p>I have to say when all is said and done, in all probability the details are stronger than the sum of their parts. They direct us to considerations of emotions that are constructed out of touch, rather than conception. I think David Salle is an apt referent, but because of the authenticity of the paint, they do not have the distance and irony of Salle, who does (a la David Cohen) see paint as a mere illustration of itself.</p>
<figure style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/kardon-saville.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-78785"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-78785" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/kardon-saville-275x367.jpg" alt="Jenny Saville, Fate 1, 2018. Detail, photograph by Dennis Kardon" width="275" height="367" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/kardon-saville-275x367.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/kardon-saville.jpg 375w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption class="wp-caption-text">Jenny Saville, Fate 1, 2018. Detail, photograph by Dennis Kardon</figcaption></figure>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Dennis and Walter prove that you can make better images by photographing bits of Jenny Saville than Jenny Saville can in a completed canvas.</p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON<br />
This is where we disagree David, I don’t sense those “scribbles&#8221; are supposed to have meaning in the representation sense, but in the sense of trying to marry an arbitrary spontaneity with a mark making that is directed to represent stuff and break down the moment when one kind of gesture transitions into another. As Walter mentioned, Manet could do this flawlessly on all levels, no one has been able to attain that complexity since (except Matisse, but in a different way).</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
In spite of the authenticity of the paint, I think one can still judge the work with the same criterion that one might apply to Salle, and they’re better that way. Besides, I never felt much emotion in her touch.</p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON<br />
The emotion is not in the touch itself but the construction of what the touch conveys. Like the hand touching the leg. It’s in the economy of gesture, and specificity of the shape of the mark. Manet is what the ideal looks like, but again, old fashioned compared to contemporary issues of representation and scale:</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
I wonder what&#8217;s contemporary about painting on a huge scale, considering the fact that we actually process images on small screens in this era, and outside of art galleries and museums have very few sacred and civic spaces in which we look at large oil paintings. Saville&#8217;s command of size is certainly impressive, but what value does blown up charcoal drawing convey, beyond the acrobatics of its delivery?</p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON<br />
I have been concerned with your willingness to demean what Saville does by cavalierly referring to “acrobatics” or “blown up charcoal drawing” when what I, Walter, and others in the discussion have constantly pointed out is thought in action. The whole point of painting is confronting the physicality of an image in the world and its relationship to the body of the viewer. How it metamorphoses as it is approached, the scale of a mark to one’s own body as an image breaks apart upon close inspection. It is why the overall conception, as seen as a coherent image is so up in the air in this work. It is easy to use language to name and then devalue, but I think what is really good about Saville is that she seems to be constantly trying to go beyond any singular idea or conception.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
Many of our pros and cons show how easy it is to marshall any kind of argument against any kind of thing, especially with aesthetics. Why not praise Saville’s works for going counter to digital socialization, for instance?</p>
<p>You could also say that she graffitied her own work so the taggers won’t have to.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
You&#8217;re right! and of course the opposite is true too, if you are good with words you can use them to make any old thing sound good or interesting. I would really like to be convinced to like these paintings but it&#8217;s not quite happening.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
This person — so nutty!</p>
<figure id="attachment_78786" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-78786" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/walter-saville.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-78786"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-78786" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/walter-saville-275x367.jpg" alt="Jenny Saville, Vis and Ramin II, 2018. Detail, photograph by Walter Robinson" width="275" height="367" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/walter-saville-275x367.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/walter-saville.jpg 375w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-78786" class="wp-caption-text">Jenny Saville, Vis and Ramin II, 2018. Detail, photograph by Walter Robinson</figcaption></figure>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Really? I don&#8217;t see the person as nutty at all. It is a very nice, respectable old-fashioned 19th-century painting done after a photograph of a woman over which the artist has inscribed some red dashes and black hatching. Half the students in the New York Academy of Art MFA show that opened last week could have knocked out that head, though none of them would have done the dashes on top</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
That would be the first thing they&#8217;d try <em>after</em> leaving the Academy.</p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON<br />
There is no NYAA grad student (or few painters anywhere really) that could accomplish what she has accomplished.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
Yeah, you overestimate the skills of the NYAA grads. And you object to the random marks? It’s all marks, at any rate, and they’re nutty in the way they’re deployed — since Manet painters have toyed with the codes of representation of facial features. But we all use the codes — Saville just keeps to the academic conventions more than most. Still, there’s play, and I think it works.</p>
<p>As for the rest of the chazerai, it’s functioning in several ways, as we all know. Animates the surface. Stands in for entrails. Enlivens the academic figuration. Represents the triumph of humanism over abstraction (as Donald Kuspit might argue).</p>
<p>My original reaction was that the marriage of academic and modernist elements was a failure. I like my quotations clean and unfussed with, generally. But then I decided I didn’t care.<br />
BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
This one is much ‘nuttier’.</p>
<figure id="attachment_78787" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-78787" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/brenda-saville.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-78787"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-78787 size-medium" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/brenda-saville-275x367.jpg" alt="Jenny Saville, Vis and Ramin II, 2018. Detail, photograph by Brenda Zlamany" width="275" height="367" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/brenda-saville-275x367.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/brenda-saville.jpg 375w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-78787" class="wp-caption-text">Jenny Saville, Vis and Ramin II, 2018. Detail, photograph by Brenda Zlamany</figcaption></figure>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
As a detail, it does look pretty yummy. But is there a painting in the show that does that as a whole?</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Nuts being the operative word, Brenda. But isn&#8217;t this just the trope of unfinish? We are to read the (oilstick?) marks underneath as an armature, and then some figure bits are in grisaille, and the testes are then nicely worked up with shadows in place, behaving properly. The whole concoction is saying, I&#8217;m an old master, I&#8217;ve got the chops</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
That might all be true, David. But as Barry says, it’s still ‘yummy’. And I think the red dashes are good in this passage. Why not just enjoy it? And I think the <em>Fate</em> paintings do it as a whole.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Brenda: You misread Barry I think. He&#8217;s saying there are lots of corners of pictures that are appealing in their dispatch, but the overall images don&#8217;t convince. If you follow the curate&#8217;s way of eating eggs you&#8217;ll end up in the emergency ward.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
Ha!</p>
<p>SUZY SPENCE<br />
Much as I love her ambition, I really wish she’d find new artists with whom she’d like to be compared. The genius thing needs to go.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
Like if she started channeling Florine Stettheimer? That would really throw an interesting money wrench into things.</p>
<p>SUZY SPENCE<br />
Yes it would.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
What about the scarlet skewed halo? That’s new. Also, relative to the notion that this stuff is familiar and tired, don’t forget she totally owns this niche.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
I think she has some competition, actually: Odd Nerdrum, Adrian Ghenie, others whose names I didn&#8217;t feel a need to remember. There is a big market for this kind of thing, especially beyond the Urals.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
Odd Nerdrum is almost completely detached from modern painting. But Ghenie and some of the other Romanians do have more in common with her—maybe also some of the Dresden school. But none of them have this fascination with the corporeal, which is what&#8217;s made Saville&#8217;s best work so compelling.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Cecily Brown at her best marries paint and flesh more convincingly, though neither of them is Rubens</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
I hate Rubens, except for the small studies.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
OK, enjoy Jenny Saville then.</p>
<p><em>By this stage, Julie Heffernan and Suzy Spence have signed off.</em></p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON<br />
I need to interject another issue which seems new in this work. It seems she is taking a piece of sculptural representation and trying through paint to capture the living aspect of what the sculpture was originally trying to represent. The bringing of the visceral to the constructed has always been her territory, and she is now trying to expand on the ways signifiers of bodies moving and being represented in the world convey actual feeling. And she is really trying to break it down brushstroke by brushstroke so that it is totally appropriate to focus on the details of moments in her paintings where she is getting her hands dirty. I don’t even know if we can evaluate the total effect of these paintings yet. That’s their provocative moment. This whole discussion of how the micro becomes macro is not just a trendy concept. It is crucial to how we move and represent in the world, and the heatedness of the discussion reflects the divides she is trying to bridge. Anything that provokes this much disagreement must be elucidating something important.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
I think we are all agreed that the <em>Fates</em> series attempts and achieves something new and substantial, and is the highlight of the show (yummy details notwithstanding).</p>
<p>These composite images remind me strongly of early work by Richard Hamilton, which itself was a Pop extension of earlier Dada strategies. What stands out in Saville is that she is doing it all in paint, but ultimately, so what? A photomontage based on paintings, a painting based on computer-generated collage: it is just a technical distinction.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think one can play with issues as loaded and potent as racial identity, gender representation, the lived-in body etc. in large, resolved public images and not have a forceful message one is ready to stand behind, or that others who admire the results can express coherently. Saying that these images are provoking a debate and we can&#8217;t decide what they mean yet doesn&#8217;t cut it for me. We don&#8217;t have to have a definitive interpretation, but the onus is on defenders to offer a start.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
I disagree about the <em>Fates</em> series. They are not as bad as the pietàs, but that&#8217;s it.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
I would want to cite the group of British artists who took illustrative techniques and tricked them out with painterly effects — R.B. Kitaj, Allen Jones, even Hockney, along with Hamilton.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Yeah, she is totally a footnote to <em>School of London</em> painting, both the grubby existentialist end of the spectrum (Freud and Auerbach) and the Pop end (Hamilton and Kitaj). But she chickens out of the middle point, which is where she actually needs to concentrate her efforts if she wants to paint rivers of flesh: Francis Bacon.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
Just back from a break. Did anyone mention George Condo?</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Someone should have done, with the African statue. This is what irony-free George Condo looks like, Julie. Pastiche minus irony equals kitsch.</p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON<br />
One problem here seems to be that David sees what Saville does as merely facilely co-opting a kind of historical mark making. Yummy sticks in my throat as well. While I hate yummy, I don’t think Saville is that, nor do I think what she does is facile. In my experience of the paintings I have seen, it doesn’t seem like that. But it is the conflict of everyone’s own imagined histories, which for the painters in the group, is how we construct our own genealogies that make this discussion so confounding. I can easily see how David and Barry might find this work deficient, yet when I look at it, I don’t think so. On some level all painters at this point could be considered pastiche, and yet nevertheless, no one really, despite the many comparisons, looks like Saville. So to attack her for her method seems beside the point, and why authenticity reared its ugly head.</p>
<p>I think kitsch is becoming one of those words like beauty and soul, that people use to justify value or non-value, which pretend to be objectively agreed upon concepts but are really just an attempt to universalize an opinion. To me Bacon seems emotionally overblown kitsch, and yet he is immediately recognizable. I must, despite the condescending Nochlin groans, feel that a male painter would not come under so much negative scrutiny. I don’t believe Larry Rivers, who was genuinely facile, got this dismissal.</p>
<p>Asking the questions, “what is it really saying?” or “to what end?” sounds like critical thinking, but are not really applicable to artists or their work. They are questions viewers might ask of themselves but not of the artist. The ability of an artist or work of art to embrace ambiguity and not provide definitive answers to those kind of questions is a mark of quality to me. After her first show Saville faltered in this area for me, but seems to have regained her ambiguous footing in this one.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
Saville is also taking real people sitting in front of her and immersing them in a whirlpool of painterly effects on canvas. A pointed, literal definition of what her painting is, and an uncommon one.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
What Dennis said could start a whole new round. But rather than going there, I just want to point out that &#8220;to what end&#8221; (which I said) and &#8220;what is she saying&#8221; (which I would never say) are utterly different things. &#8220;Content is a glimpse,&#8221; said de Kooning; &#8220;to what end&#8221; means, What is that thing she&#8217;s got a glimpse of and that she is pursuing? It&#8217;s nothing to do with a verbally paraphrasable message (such as one that came up in this discussion, &#8220;We are all one,&#8221; I think it went). In the end, we can only agree to disagree, but the thing Saville seemed to glimpse before— I feel that she&#8217;s lost sight of it here.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
There’s a kind of sophistry in hitting on innocent phrases like &#8220;she is saying such and such&#8221;; we are all adults here, we know that intentions aren&#8217;t the final arbiter of anything, that artists at their best generate ambiguities of intention as much as form. But Saville very deliberately, pointedly, and publicly deploys rhetorics of style and method in ways that I find completely removed from any historically or psychologically informed understanding of their value.</p>
<p>Dennis, in your writings on artists you are hardly shy to interpret, including &#8211; rightly &#8211; ambiguous or unintended elements in the finished works. I was simply asking Saville&#8217;s defenders to take a stab at interpreting images in ways that make sense of her methods. I think only Julie began to do that in her reading of the <em>Fates</em> series.</p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON<br />
All of my reviews are certainly about how the work speaks to me from my perspective of a painter and not an attempt to explain ultimate meaning. I do think Saville, in my interpretation, is trying to address the gap between representation and life. She starts with painting a lifeless statue, substituting real people using our criteria of realness, photography illuminated by paint, trying to turn stone to flesh, and then turning to a remake of cubism to address how that metamorphosis is unsuccessful. This may seem, in the ideas department, not original, but it has always been pertinent and comes out of her work. In Barry’s terms what she is &#8220;trying to reach for” is the connection of real humans to representations. She probably fails as this distance really cannot be bridged, but in her case her insufficiency is where her art lies. Which is why the details are important to me, as I think trying to capture the complexity of looking at her work through one reproduction of an entire work on our devices is bound to be reductive of the experience and demean the enterprise. Salle takes the impossibility as a given and the “irony” that everyone perceives is just trying to make those failures expressive. While I think Saville is frustrated by the failure.</p>
<p>I think we disagree about the stylization of the “<em>pentimenti</em>,” which to me are not <em>pentimenti</em> exactly, but underpainting. Since they do not seem like actual attempts to describe the final subject, it seems arrogant not to give her the benefit of the doubt about the why of their existence. They might be part of an unseen aspect of the image, or a change of mind about the image, but I feel she doesn’t use them to call attention to her mastery, but the artificiality of what is left on top. This is where I think you question her sincerity, and I simply won’t make that call. You may be totally correct and the whole thing is completely contrived. I don’t feel that is the case, but I couldn’t say.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
To Dennis I would say representations <em>are</em> reality, and to David I’d exclaim, “values? I don’t need no stinkin’ values!” That is, she puts plenty of intention in her paintings, not the least of which is libidinal play and, as yet another afterthought to our colloquium, a challenge to Hirst and Kapoor, her bloviating male colleagues on the new “British Rich List.”</p>
<p><strong>Jenny Saville: Ancestors at Gagosian Gallery, 522 West 21st Street, between 10th and 11th avenues, New York City, gagosian.com, May 3 to June 16, 2018.</strong></p>
<p><strong>David Cohen is Publisher/Editor at artcritical.com. Julie Heffernan is a painter, represented by P.P.O.W. Gallery, New York. Dennis Kardon is a painter who shows at Mitchell Algus Gallery, New York.Walter Robinson is a painter, represented by Jeffrey Deitch, New York.Barry Schwabsky is art critic of The Nation, a poet, and author of The Perpetual Guest and other works. Suzy Spence, Executive Publisher at artcritical.com, is a painter, represented by Sears Peyton Gallery, New York. Painter Brenda Zlamany&#8217;s most recent commission was unveiled in 2018 at Davenport College, Yale University, and her series of watercolor portraits, 100/100, will be shown at the JCC, New York, in the fall. </strong></p>
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<p><em>Pop Art Design </em>at the Barbican Art Gallery</p>
<p>22 October, 2013 to 9 February, 2014</p>
<figure id="attachment_39679" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-39679" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Barbican3.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-39679" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Barbican3.jpg" alt="Installation shot of the exhibition under review including the Moloch floor lamp, 1970-71, by Gaetano Pesce , Richard Hamilton’s Epiphany, 1964),  Leonardo, Sofa, 1969 by Studio 65 and Fiche Male (Plug Socket) 1977 by Yonel Lebovici © Gar Powell-Evans 2013 Courtesy Barbican Art Gallery " width="550" height="366" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/04/Barbican3.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/04/Barbican3-275x183.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-39679" class="wp-caption-text">Installation shot of the exhibition under review including the Moloch floor lamp, 1970-71, by Gaetano Pesce , Richard Hamilton’s Epiphany, 1964), Leonardo, Sofa, 1969 by Studio 65 and Fiche Male (Plug Socket) 1977 by Yonel Lebovici © Gar Powell-Evans 2013 Courtesy Barbican Art Gallery</figcaption></figure>
<p>Packed with two floors of objects and images in seemingly every medium – lounge chairs and television advertisements, collages and coke bottles, paintings and floor lamps – the Barbican’s ambitious <em>Pop Art Design</em> pitched itself as “the first comprehensive exhibition to explore the exciting exchange of ideas between artists and designers in the Pop age.” (The exhibition was previously seen at the Vitra Design Museum, the Louisiana Museum of Modern Art and Stockholm&#8217;s Moderna Museet.) As the show’s paratactic, three-word title would suggest, it is Pop that was posited as having mediated between the latter two phenomena: a sensibility, both historical and ineffable, that nourished art and design alike in the Cold War era.  Claiming a kind of insouciant reciprocity between the ambits of artistic experimentation and product design, the show consistently flattened out the differences between them, venturing instead a “thematic kaleidoscope [sic]” that adduced a range of loosely grouped works without much regard for their respective origins, intentions, or effects.</p>
<p>One of the first objects in the exhibition, a “Leonardo” sofa by Studio 65 (1969), hit all the right notes and suggested – in its play between use value and the ironization of signs – what the exhibition might have explored more thoroughly and carefully.  Conflating function and iconicity, the couch sets the stars and stripes of the American flag into an undulating, two-tiered assembly of interconnected parts.  Nearby, a Jasper Johns target painting lent some proto-Pop context (one of the painter’s flag paintings was presumably unavailable), while a Yonel Lebovici’s large <em>Fiche Male (Plug Socket) </em>sculpture (1977) duly recalled Claes Oldenburg’s giant objects and their outsized estrangement of even the most ordinary of household wares.  Like the nearby “La Bocca” couch, also by Studio 65, designers during the late 1960s and 70s indeed paid heed to certain artistic currents; the “La Bocca”’s inflated red lips conjure up both Man Ray’s legendary painting, <em>Observatory Time: The Lovers </em>(1936)and Dalí’s <em>Mae West Lips Sofa</em> (1937).  But the appeal to art historical and even contemporary artistic iconography in strains of design cannot be seen as the mere equivalent of Pop’s varied, ambivalent, and often contradictory uses (and abuses) of design.  With its post-Cubist juxtaposition of collage-like imagery, including a car hood, cuddling lovers, and a plate of spaghetti, James Rosenquist’s <em>I Love you with my Ford </em>(1961) performs a very different operation upon its mass-produced object than, say, Oldenburg’s <em>Soft Lunchbox</em> (1962).</p>
<figure id="attachment_39683" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-39683" style="width: 333px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Barbican5.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-39683 size-full" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Barbican5.jpg" alt="A viewer studies Alain Jacquet’s Déjeuner sur l’herbe, 1964, while seeming to avoid Allen Jone’s Chair, 1969 © Gar Powell-Evans 2013 Courtesy Barbican Art Gallery " width="333" height="500" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/04/Barbican5.jpg 333w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/04/Barbican5-275x412.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 333px) 100vw, 333px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-39683" class="wp-caption-text">A viewer studies Alain Jacquet’s Déjeuner sur l’herbe, 1964, while seeming to avoid Allen Jone’s Chair, 1969 © Gar Powell-Evans 2013 Courtesy Barbican Art Gallery</figcaption></figure>
<p>A wall text noted apropos of one Pop painting on display that it was “difficult to tell if it is critical or appreciative.”  Such a description goes some way in underscoring the indeterminate premise of Pop at large, at least in its early phases.  If post-war design made use of popular imagery to enliven forms bound up with function, Pop’s reproduction of consumerist codes aimed to question the very mechanisms of their incessant repetition.  To be sure, not all (indeed, hardly any) of the show’s appliances and apparatuses fall into the category of “good design.”  And certain twentieth-century designers (Bruno Munari’s bent forks come to mind) often undermined the clockwork of utility even as he contributed to its development.  Yet the exhibition took no pains to distinguish between the semantic registers of either the artworks or objects on display – or to probe the point at which artwork and object in the postwar period often seemed to trade identities.  One glimpse of such slippage came in Allen Jone’s <em>Chair</em> (1969), in which a functional seat rests on the upraised legs of a submissive female mannequin wearing S&amp;M gear.  That Allen is commonly referred to as a sculptor, rather than furniture designer, at least complicates the work’s aesthetic and material status in interesting ways.  An early, hand-painted room divider by Andy Warhol on display undeniably conjured up questions about hand-wrought artifice as opposed to use value.  Likewise his nearby <em>Close Cover before Striking</em> painting – which flattens the American Match Company and Coca Cola advertising into the same pictorial and conceptual plane – highlights early Pop’s critical engagement with mass-produced imagery.</p>
<p>Yet the later paintings that peppered subsequent rooms (like Warhol’s ubiquitous Marilyn Monroe) appeared as mere filler on the wall, related to design in only the loosest sense.  In a similar vein, making cameos in nearly every gallery was the work of Alexander Girard, known chiefly for his work in fabric and textile design, but also celebrated for his comprehensive design environments from the 1950s and 60s, particularly the La Fonda del Sol restaurant in Manhattan’s Time-Life building.  Aside from a penchant for bright colors and simple shapes, Girard’s relation to Pop is difficult to trace except in the most ample dimension.  Ed Ruscha’s painting, <em>Honk</em> (1962) hypostatizes commercial typography to the dimensions of monumental architecture; the work implicitly insists upon the rapport between commercial design and a (visualized) language of the everyday.  By contrast, his photographic series <em>Every Building on the Sunset Strip</em> appeared entirely out of place here, and once again stretched the exhibition’s conceptual parameters past any discernible limits.  The section titled “Everyday Life Made Public” in fact seemed to dispense altogether with questions of design, while, conversely, the ample space dedicated to work by Charles and ray Eames – from chairs to films – related to Pop art in only the loosest of senses.</p>
<p>Perhaps most poignant in synthesizing the exhibition’s dizzying “kaleidoscope” were the numerous examples of Italian design, whether Ettore Sottsass’s willfully kitsch plates and mirrors, Studio D’s “Pillola” Lamps (1968), or the “Passiflora” lamp by Superstudio (1968).  While the influence of Pop and proto-Pop imagery upon these examples of post-war design is relatively straightforward, the role of design in Pop art itself is a far more thorny matter, shot through with questions that cut to the ambivalent origins of Pop itself.  While not in the exhibition, Man Ray’s infamous object, <em>The Gift</em> (1921) makes literal the potentially barbed nature of appropriation, as practiced first by Dada artists and again after World War Two by neo-Dada and certain Pop figures.  Gluing a row of tacks to the surface of an iron, Ray transfigures the object into a menacing weapon, but also renders it useless as an appliance.  Artists like Rosenquist and Oldenburg did not merely rehearse the visual pleasures of commodification, but probed the relationships between them: the extent to which every aspect of our daily lives is implicated in an economy of consumption and desire, including a consumption of signs, codifications, and spectacularizations of those desires.  Appropriating the language of advertising (and hence, implicitly, of design), Pop Artists frequently troubled the spectacle of consumerism, as much as simply reproducing its mechanisms.  The exhibition’s hesitancy to acknowledge that nuance proved as disappointing as its individual objects were thrilling to see.</p>
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<p>Richard Hamilton: The Late Works was  at the National Gallery, October 10, 2012 to January 13, 2013</p>
<figure id="attachment_29057" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-29057" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/01-hamilton-x3637.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-29057 " title="Richard Hamilton, The Saensbury Wing, 1999-2000.  Private Collection. © Courtesy of the Estate of Richard Hamilton." src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/01-hamilton-x3637.jpg" alt="Richard Hamilton, The Saensbury Wing, 1999-2000.  Private Collection. © Courtesy of the Estate of Richard Hamilton." width="550" height="350" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2013/02/01-hamilton-x3637.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2013/02/01-hamilton-x3637-275x175.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-29057" class="wp-caption-text">Richard Hamilton, The Saensbury Wing, 1999-2000. Private Collection. © Courtesy of the Estate of Richard Hamilton.</figcaption></figure>
<p>“Richard Hamilton: The Late Works” was conceived while its subject, who died in 2011, was still alive. Now, sadly, realized without the artist’s collaboration, the exhibition at the National Gallery is both different from and smaller than what was first envisioned; as curator Christopher Riopelle writes in the catalogue, “The scope of the exhibition [Hamilton] had hoped to mount could not be realized.” As a result, perhaps, this exhibition shows an artist of smaller compass than one remembers, for instance, from his 2010 show at the Serpentine Gallery, which was not a full retrospective but put the accent on the broadly political dimension of his work throughout his career. By contrast, “The Late Works”—something of a misnomer as several of the nineteen pieces shown date from the 1990s or even the ‘80s, though it’s true most were made from 2004 onward—is a selection oriented mostly toward Hamilton’s responses to the great tradition of European painting. There are specific references to masters ranging from Titian and Cranach to Matisse and (Hamilton’s great inspiration) Duchamp; the theme of the Annunciation is prominent. All this makes sense, of course, in the context of the National Gallery. <em>The Saensbury Wing</em>, 1999-2000, whose title is an excruciating pun, depicts the museum’s own Sainsbury Wing (designed by Venturi and Scott Brown), inhabited by a lone female nude, in a pastiche of the style of the Dutch specialist in church interiors Pieter Saenradem—as seen for instance in the National Gallery’s own <em>Interior of the Grote Kerk at Haarlem</em>, 1636-37; deep in the distance one spies hanging on a far wall one of Hamilton’s own greatest works, <em>The Citizen</em>, 1981-83, the depiction of an IRA prisoner at Maze Prison in Northern Ireland.</p>
<p>The inadvertent effect of the exhibition, however, is to show just how far Hamilton could slip from the moral and aesthetic intensity of a painting like <em>The Citizen</em>. Instead, what comes into view here is a rather academic artist preoccupied with a kind of commentary on the achievements of his predecessors rather than on anything like an urgent and unforeseeable synthesis. Nor does Hamilton’s fascination with combining painting with contemporary digital technology save the day; it only adds to the blandness of facture that casts a pall over some of these pieces. And like so many academic painters, Hamilton seems to use the female nude’s status as a culturally blameless motif—if it’s a reference to Titian, then there can’t be anything prurient about it, can there?—as a way to indulge a personal delectation while pretending to a high-minded disinterestedness; it’s not the indulgence that rankles, but the pretense. All the worse, the three final paintings on view, <em>Balzac  [a] + [b] + [c]</em>, 2011 (printed 2012), the authorized remnants of an unfinished project based on Balzac’s story “The Unknown Masterpiece,” are far from the “profound meditation on art, beauty and desire” that Riopelle pronounces them. They are merely the most naked of the exhibition’s pastiches. In each three versions of the same image, citations of self-portraits by Poussin, Courbet, and Titian are shown as if earnestly discoursing on the seductively recumbent girl with dreamily closed eyes who stretches out so sensually in the foreground; she too is a quotation, from a photograph in the Bibliotheque nationale de France. Academicism says that if you combine great parts, you will make a great whole; but here is one more proof that the result can be much less than the heavy-handed sum of the all-too-obvious parts. What made Hamilton so different, so appealing, was anything but this.</p>
<figure id="attachment_29058" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-29058" style="width: 71px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/03-hamilton-x7884.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-29058 " title="Richard Hamilton, 'Hotel du Rhône', 2005.  Private Collection. © Courtesy of the Estate of Richard Hamilton." src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/03-hamilton-x7884-71x71.jpg" alt="Richard Hamilton, 'Hotel du Rhône', 2005.  Private Collection. © Courtesy of the Estate of Richard Hamilton." width="71" height="71" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2013/02/03-hamilton-x7884-71x71.jpg 71w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2013/02/03-hamilton-x7884-275x272.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2013/02/03-hamilton-x7884.jpg 399w" sizes="(max-width: 71px) 100vw, 71px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-29058" class="wp-caption-text">click to enlarge</figcaption></figure>
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