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		<title>&#8220;Him for whom the world was not enough&#8221;: Siah Armajani at Alexander Gray Associates</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Corwin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2016 04:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>An ode to poets, a philosopher, and a martyr, as tombs and temples to their greatness.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Siah Armajani at Alexander Gray Associates</strong></p>
<p>October 27 to December 17, 2016<br />
510 West 26 Street (between 10th and 11th avenues)<br />
New York, 212 399 2636</p>
<figure id="attachment_64187" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-64187" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Armajani_AGA_2016_43.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-64187"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-64187 size-full" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Armajani_AGA_2016_43.jpg" alt="Installation view, &quot;Siah Armajani,&quot; 2016, at Alexander Gray Associates. Courtesy of the gallery." width="550" height="408" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/12/Armajani_AGA_2016_43.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/12/Armajani_AGA_2016_43-275x205.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-64187" class="wp-caption-text">Installation view, &#8220;Siah Armajani,&#8221; 2016, at Alexander Gray Associates. Courtesy of the gallery.</figcaption></figure>
<p>In a show of new sculpture at Alexander Gray, Siah Armajani has made the gallery a mortuary temple stocked with the tombs of two poets, one philosopher, and one martyr. The sculptural/architectural proposition of the tomb has traditionally encompassed both subversive and normative figures from Alexander to Oscar (the Great and Wilde, respectively), so his choice of Arthur Rimbaud, Frank O’Hara, Richard Rorty and Dietrich Bonhoeffer doesn’t stray from tradition. Still, the act of publicly commemorating cultural figures via intricate and monumental sculptural tombs certainly fell out of favor over the course of the 20th century, so Armajani’s pieces, invoking wit and anger with his crisp visual riddles rather than melancholy, is a welcome return to one of humanity’s more enduring tropes of visual culture. The artist’s process is on display in the exhibition as well, with preparatory drawings presented alongside the executed sculptures, but this decision posits much more of a quandary: while the two-dimensional renderings of the monuments are arresting in their sharp orthogonal perspective, their inclusion, as well as that of maquettes for the larger works, primarily serves to double the number of objects in the show and display a variety of scale that is largely irrelevant. In an architecture exhibition, drawings and maquettes are included because the final product isn’t. Armajani is not an architect, he is a revolutionary in terms of the direct connection between politics, life and art which he insistently draws in his work, and the inclusion of these Lilliputian doppelgangers only serves to create a false sense of the magisterial controlling master plans that are the bane of most monumental architectural projects. Armajani’s sculptures, despite their aspirations to the eternal and their sleek signature aesthetic, are humble, deeply heartfelt and personal.</p>
<figure id="attachment_64186" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-64186" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/ae635db740c2c05bd9b0f23300bc64ed0.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-64186"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-64186" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/ae635db740c2c05bd9b0f23300bc64ed0-275x171.jpg" alt="Siah Armajani, Tomb for Dietrich Bonhoeffer, 2016. Ink on Mylar, 36 x 60 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Alexander Gray Associates." width="275" height="171" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/12/ae635db740c2c05bd9b0f23300bc64ed0-275x171.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/12/ae635db740c2c05bd9b0f23300bc64ed0.jpg 550w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-64186" class="wp-caption-text">Siah Armajani, Tomb for Dietrich Bonhoeffer, 2016.<br />Ink on Mylar, 36 x 60 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Alexander Gray Associates.</figcaption></figure>
<p>Do the tombs evoke the individuals they represent, or are the titles more of a playful allusion to the artist’s own intellectual meanderings? It’s hard to tell: Armajani expects a lot of his viewers in terms of background knowledge.<em>Tomb for Dietrich Bonhoeffer</em> (2016), a sleek vermillion coffin on black sawhorses, clearly evokes the courageous minister, fitted with a noose, which was the instrument of his martyrdom at the hands of the National Socialists. The tombs of Rorty, Ribaud and O’Hara are not quite as explicit. <em>Tomb for Frank O’Hara</em> (2016) is a jolly affair and a much looser interpretation of the tomb — five disembodied and legless chairs emerge from two tables implying a late-night drunken conversation. The presence of a dark casket arbitrarily placed on the white tables pulls the whole assemblage back to the funereal; but this surreal centerpiece serves to heighten the absurdity, again directing the mind towards a besotted Irish wake rather than an eternal resting place. <em>Tomb for Arthur Rimbaud</em> (2016) also is a play on furniture-as-sculpture, lifting the everyday to the monumental. The “punch line” or pivot around which the piece moves is a pink and baby blue ramp or distorted table, perhaps alluding to Rimbaud’s youth and melancholy nostalgia, as well as his overall surrealism — in this tomb there is no box for a corpse.</p>
<figure id="attachment_64189" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-64189" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/f6820e0796821906d7a29333a2af39bd0.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-64189"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-64189" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/f6820e0796821906d7a29333a2af39bd0-275x199.jpg" alt="Siah Armajani, Tomb for Frank O'Hara, 2016. Painted wood, 54 x 103 x 65 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Alexander Gray Associates." width="275" height="199" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/12/f6820e0796821906d7a29333a2af39bd0-275x199.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/12/f6820e0796821906d7a29333a2af39bd0.jpg 550w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-64189" class="wp-caption-text">Siah Armajani, Tomb for Frank O&#8217;Hara, 2016. Painted wood, 54 x 103 x 65 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Alexander Gray Associates.</figcaption></figure>
<p>The philosopher’s tomb, <em>Tomb for Richard Rorty</em> (2016), is the most architectural, and by that token the least sculptural; a large beige box stands atop a scaffold, like a fisherman’s hut on a pier, while the end of an umber coffin emerges from a rectangular orifice in the side. Both the coffin and its housing are not completely opaque: there are sizeable chinks between the wooden slats allowing for a visual permeability that negates the monolithic quality of the massing. How this is related to the father of neopragmatism is anyone’s guess though. It does seem a very pleasant dwelling place for the hereafter.</p>
<p><em>Written Iran</em> (2015-16) and <em>100 and 1 Dead Poets</em> (2016) utilize text in much the same ironic way that the artist repurposes furniture (and, to a subtler extent, architecture). In both cases, Armajani uses words to construct a fabric: in the former, text becomes an urban expanse, and, in the latter, an abstract pattern punctuated by a few small drawn objects referring to the text. As with the tombs, text becomes the jumping-off point of visual experience, and what the words actually say is sometimes less important that what they symbolize or the individual who wrote them. <em>Written Iran</em> brilliantly hops back and forth between the proposition that the city is a regulating geometry and presentational structure for the writing versus the words supplying the building blocks of the city. Armajani’s bridges and towers, recurring images for the Iranian-born artist, function much in the same way — their obvious but limited practicality only serve to highlight their metaphysical and textual meaning as beacons and links between people. In his sculpture, Armajani emphasizes a clear but limited color palette — and one that seeks to visually delineate the different parts of the construction — rejecting the idea of unifying the form through a sameness of medium but instead outlining a narrative by distinguishing the multiple parts and aspects of the piece. This brings a depth of vibrancy, warmth and humor to a dauntingly titled series.</p>
<figure id="attachment_64184" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-64184" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/0644f46a974119a2be55f54c4aa35a540.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-64184"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-64184" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/0644f46a974119a2be55f54c4aa35a540-275x214.jpg" alt="Siah Armajani, Tomb for Richard Rorty, 2016. Painted wood and ink, 77 x 84 x 38 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Alexander Gray Associates." width="275" height="214" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/12/0644f46a974119a2be55f54c4aa35a540-275x214.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/12/0644f46a974119a2be55f54c4aa35a540.jpg 550w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-64184" class="wp-caption-text">Siah Armajani, Tomb for Richard Rorty, 2016. Painted wood and ink, 77 x 84 x 38 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Alexander Gray Associates.</figcaption></figure>
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		<title>Dust Settling: Yvonne Rainer Choreographs History at The Kitchen</title>
		<link>https://artcritical.com/2016/07/13/mira-dayal-on-yvonne-rainer/</link>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mira Dayal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>The dancer and performance artist plays with mortality and geological time in a new iteration of her famous work.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>Yvonne Rainer:</em> <em>The Concept of Dust: Continuous Project—Altered Annually</em> at The Kitchen</strong></p>
<p>June 2 to June 4, 2016<br />
512 W 19th Street (between 10th and 11th avenues)<br />
New York, 212 255 5793</p>
<figure id="attachment_59673" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-59673" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/01-DUST-by-Paula-Court-1.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-59673"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-59673" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/01-DUST-by-Paula-Court-1.jpg" alt="Performance view, &quot;Yvonne Rainer: The Concept of Dust: Continuous Project—Altered Annually,&quot; 2016, at the Kitchen. Courtesy of the Kitchen. Photograph by Liz Lynch." width="550" height="367" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/07/01-DUST-by-Paula-Court-1.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/07/01-DUST-by-Paula-Court-1-275x184.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-59673" class="wp-caption-text">Performance view, &#8220;Yvonne Rainer: The Concept of Dust: Continuous Project—Altered Annually,&#8221; 2016, at the Kitchen. Courtesy of the Kitchen. Photograph by Liz Lynch.</figcaption></figure>
<p>What is dust but history settling itself? Yvonne Rainer&#8217;s latest permutation of the ongoing project, <em>The Concept of Dust</em>, performed at The Kitchen, began quite literally with the death of an author. The stage was empty save for a white towel, pillow, and grey folding chair. The dancers, as they walked on stage, appeared not serious but devastated. Rainer began to speak: &#8220;I have a sad announcement to make tonight. One of our members won&#8217;t be here; Pat Catterson died last night.&#8221; Before the audience could react, a voice yelled from offstage, &#8220;No, what the fuck, Yvonne? What are you trying to do, get rid of me?&#8221; The forced farce — Catterson&#8217;s response sounded like that of an overly dramatic television actress — triggered first nervous, then genuine laughter from the audience as Catterson and Rainer eyed each other warily in the center of the floor. Though as the dance progressed this beginning increasingly faded from memory, the concept of lost, disembodied, or assumed voices became the spine of the piece.</p>
<p>Catterson soon, again, became the central figure as she began to tap dance, explaining as she danced:</p>
<blockquote><p>During the voyage from Africa, slaves were occasionally brought up from the ship&#8217;s hull and made to dance. They were worth money now, and the physical exercise helped keep them alive. Imagine what this meant: they did routines that a month or two earlier had been part of the observance of their religion, or the celebration of a feast day, or the expression of their relationship with their grandparents. Anyone who hears this story will feel the burden of reconciliation built into tap.</p></blockquote>
<p>With this speech — which was likely found text, as indicated by Rainer in her text on the piece — Catterson turns the once-comic atmosphere shades darker. While some of the dancers&#8217; ensuing movements are intentionally stilted and quotidian, they can no longer be quite as amusing as much of the audience seemed to believe, laughing along. Instead, the movements and voices begin to feel hysterical. As slow violin music plays, a low and incoherent woman&#8217;s voice is subtly woven into the soundscape as if it were a subconscious murmur conducting the dancers, who improvisationally iterate small, choreographed passage of movement. Their imperfect coordination conveys informality reminiscent of rehearsal. Combined with the hysterical impulses woven into the choreography, this informality surfaces Rainer&#8217;s concern for the elemental chaos within the apparent order of daily life, which also comes through in her chosen texts. Dust is the ultimate mark of quotidian life, for it can only exist among whatever has become so routine as to be neglected.</p>
<figure id="attachment_59674" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-59674" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/02-DUST-by-PAULA-COURT-1.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-59674"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-59674" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/02-DUST-by-PAULA-COURT-1-275x184.jpg" alt="Performance view, &quot;Yvonne Rainer: The Concept of Dust: Continuous Project—Altered Annually,&quot; 2016, at the Kitchen. Courtesy of the Kitchen. Photograph by Liz Lynch." width="275" height="184" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/07/02-DUST-by-PAULA-COURT-1-275x184.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/07/02-DUST-by-PAULA-COURT-1.jpg 550w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-59674" class="wp-caption-text">Performance view, &#8220;Yvonne Rainer: The Concept of Dust: Continuous Project—Altered Annually,&#8221; 2016, at the Kitchen. Courtesy of the Kitchen. Photograph by Liz Lynch.</figcaption></figure>
<p>The informality and familiarity of the dancers&#8217; motions also allows each dancer to communicate their personality; with time, one notices how the same move looks different across bodies. Fifth position arms look best on the dancer who moves most lightly and elegantly. In ballet, the merging of body with gesture may be desirable, but in this choreography Rainer seems more interested in pointing to the citation of movement, paralleling the citation of text. Here, the same move looks best on the body that performs it most unnaturally, thus highlighting the difference between a routine and learned movement. And again, given the forced look of these movements on the dancers’ bodies,Catterson&#8217;s mention of being &#8220;made to dance&#8221; boils to the surface.</p>
<p>Rainer’s quoted texts are compiled in a stapled packet of papers, which she flips through during the performance, first while sitting in a chair at the edge of the stage, and then while running to the side of a dancer to ask them to read an excerpt. Most of them do so willingly, but some run away as Rainer approaches. When she finally catches up, she captures in her microphone only a gasp or guttural sound. But that appears satisfactory, as if &#8220;gasp&#8221; were part of the text. Though largely disconnected, and from sources including the Metropolitan Museum and <em>New York Times</em>, some texts are identified, such as excerpts from Kingsley Amis and from Maureen N McLane’s <em>My Poets</em> (2012). Rainer may introduce these partly for amusement, but also because they seem to be neglected stories: later in the dance, she reads a story about a young black man who was wrongly arrested for possession of drug paraphernalia, beaten up in jail, and later released but with permanently damaged eyes. By blowing the dust off of these stories, one brings them back into the present, calls attention to their contemporary relevance.</p>
<p>Citations are defined by their removal from an original context. Because the performers may rearrange the phrases of the dance as they perform — and presumably Rainer may rearrange the order of the spoken texts — it is not their sequence or trajectory but rather their similarities that reveal Rainer&#8217;s intentions. In one phrase of the dance, the lights turn off completely. A voice speaks, that of an invisible narrator. She recites the history of a fossil. As she reads, one can hear that she is reading from a printed text, for she repeats some words and mispronounces others. Stumbling over words and imperfectly miming movements are both acts of citation. They also allow the voices and motions of history to become personalized, no longer omnipotent and objective. History is defined by its belonging to the past; it is made visible only in its residues, its accumulation of context: references, citations and dust.</p>
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		<title>Failure Virtue and Risky Poetry: Kyle Schlesinger with Paul Maziar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Maziar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2016 18:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>The two poets talk publishing and the arts, and the economics of success.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I’ve recently had some in-studio or across-the-wires conversations with poets and artists — as with poet Hoa Nguyen, and painter Jeremy Okai Davis — to breeze about everything from recipes to music videos. Last week, I got to catch up with my friend, the poet, professor, collaborator, editor, and publisher Kyle Schlesinger about the history of his Cuneiform Press, which publishes a variety of poetry and artist&#8217;s books. Schlesinger is always a robust, delightful conversationalist; our interview lasted just a few breathless back-and-forths. His imagination, friendly wit, passion, and breadth of knowledge are sampled a little here.</em></p>
<figure id="attachment_58846" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-58846" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-58846 size-full" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/KS2.jpg" alt="Kyle Schlesinger at home in Austin, TX. Photo by Bryan Parker, 2016. " width="550" height="367" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/06/KS2.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/06/KS2-275x184.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-58846" class="wp-caption-text">Kyle Schlesinger at home in Austin, TX. Photo by Bryan Parker, 2016.</figcaption></figure>
<p><strong>PAUL MAZIAR: Take us back to Buffalo in 2001 when Cuneiform Press began. As I understand it Robert Creeley, a key influence on your work, was there.</strong></p>
<p>KYLE SCHLESINGER: Wow, that’s a blast from the past. Bob was and continues to be a huge influence on me on so many levels: the art of collaboration, poetry, poetics, grace, generosity, and a general ease of movement and insistent curiosity towards the world that is absolutely singular. He was the busiest guy in town, but when you sat down to talk he didn’t miss a beat, remembered everything, which taught me a lot about presence, giving your attention to whatever’s happening on a particular occasion.</p>
<p>Just before I left for Buffalo I had a stint teaching high school English in a mill town in northern Rhode Island. I was fine with the work, but a terrible disciplinarian; he suggested that I come up to Buffalo, get an advanced degree, and try teaching college, which is exactly what I’m doing now, 15 years later and a little bit grayer.</p>
<p>I started Cuneiform with the intention of publishing experimental work by emerging poets — very simple chapbooks by people like Patrick Durgin, whose <em>Color Music</em> (2002) has, to my mind, totally held up over the years. His wife’s brother made some punk collages on a photocopier and we printed the images on a Print Gocco, a little silkscreen kit that was briefly big in Japan. I’d throw a proof in Patrick’s mailbox at night, he’d make any corrections after dinner, then I’d go back to the press, make changes, and repeat for the next page.</p>
<p><strong>I love the low-fi action that comes out of your printshop. The punk show posters you recently did look great. I’ve also seen Cuneiform’s phenomenal book by Okkervil River’s Will Sheff, your call for musicians’ manuscripts for Cuneiform, and heard that you’re moving into a camper on a California beach, to surf and write a book about Bill Callahan.</strong></p>
<figure id="attachment_58844" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-58844" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-58844 size-medium" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/I-Want-to-Go-Home-with-a-Book2-275x303.jpg" alt="I Want to Go Home with a Book in Each Hand by Will Sheff. Unique book. Cuneiform Press, 2016." width="275" height="303" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/06/I-Want-to-Go-Home-with-a-Book2-275x303.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/06/I-Want-to-Go-Home-with-a-Book2.jpg 454w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-58844" class="wp-caption-text">I Want to Go Home with a Book in Each Hand by Will Sheff. Unique book. Cuneiform Press, 2016.</figcaption></figure>
<p>The Sheff book is definitely the strangest thing I’ve done with Cuneiform. I emailed him, saying that I think his essays on music are the best since Lester Bangs and Greil Marcus, and that I’d like to collect them as a book.</p>
<p>He was very busy, but it occurred to me that books don’t always have to be published in large editions, that, as with book artists, sometimes just a copy or two can do the trick, that sometimes you make a book just because you want it to exist. So I tracked down every essay I could find, started copy-editing and fact-checking just like I would any other Cuneiform book, designed it, got it printed and bound by hand, the whole nine yards, sent him a copy and kept one for myself. Took about a year, a ridiculous amount of work, but it turned out perfect since many Okkervil River songs are about keeping it real, and the virtues of failing in a world with a conservative notion of success. That’s the first in this music series and others will follow, though they’ll be printed in standard editions, distributed properly, etc.</p>
<p><strong>This <em>failure virtue</em> is part of what charms me about poets like Alfred Starr Hamilton. It seems to be something that we don’t find so often these days, do you agree? For instance, you took me to that Katherine Bradford exhibition in Portland, at Adams and Ollman; we were both pretty tickled by the show. </strong></p>
<p>Every artist I talk to is in the same boat: how to make a living and make the art they want to make. Not just in the United States, but Canada, Mexico, Australia, Europe, and so on. Everyone’s wondering, maybe even a little nervous, how life can be more meaningful, but no one can say why… Or can they? The MFA and the National Endowment for the Arts killed art in America, which is why I can say that I feel a strong sense of connection to various artists of the last 40 years or so.</p>
<p>Lou Reed said something like, “There’s a door, and behind that door, is everyone you’ve ever wanted to meet. Then the door opens, and you stand there wondering, knowing that once the door closes, you can’t get out again.” And that’s the danger of monetary success, to my mind. Once you write a “Paul Maziar poem” you can’t write that poem again. Goodbye, Paul. The surplus of art versus the demand for art is at an all-time low, which leads us to an interesting question: Why do you want to do what you do when there’s really no social need or viable economic gain to be had? Is it personal happiness? I’m on board with that; I want everyone to do exactly what they want to do every day, all the time, but I also think that’s the real question we all must ask of ourselves, not specifically related to the day-in/day-out fact of our lives, but taking ourselves, as such, out of the equation.</p>
<p>I know that could sound pessimistic or jaded, but I don’t mean it to come across that way at all; it’s actually quite the opposite. The artist George Herms said, in a recent lecture I attended, “The single most important fact of my existence is that the population of the Earth has doubled since my birth.” I take the sentiment seriously, or as William Carlos Williams once remarked, “An empty space is the sign of a poor economy.” We’ve got a revolution going on, one with more talent and underutilized artistic resources than ever before. So let’s storm the fucking gates and build a world we want to live in, with history close to the heart.</p>
<figure id="attachment_58847" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-58847" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-58847 size-medium" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/KS9-275x414.jpg" alt="Color Music by Patrick Durgin. Images by Eric Troolin. Edition limited to 100 copies. Cuneiform Press, 2002." width="275" height="414" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/06/KS9-275x414.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/06/KS9.jpg 332w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-58847" class="wp-caption-text">Color Music by Patrick Durgin. Images by Eric Troolin. Edition limited to 100 copies. Cuneiform Press, 2002.</figcaption></figure>
<p><strong>I was charmed by that Creeley anecdote in <em>The Art of Collaboration </em>(Cuneiform, 2015), where he, having seen your letterpress printshop digs, asks why you haven’t gone all-digital, adding “If we had the internet in the fifties when we were editing the <em>Black Mountain Review</em>, we would <em>never</em> have done things this way.” It’s worth pointing out that you’re no extreme model-acolyte (you didn’t follow his line of thinking <em>comme ça</em>). Do you view art online or strictly in museums and galleries? </strong></p>
<p>I keep a foot in both worlds. I teach classes on New Media Theory for a living, so I’m always reading up on the latest advances in technology. I think it’s something artists need to be aware of on multiple levels, but in terms of my personal practice, the more unplugged I am, the happier I am. It would never occur to me to look at art that has been reproduced digitally, nor am I partial to computer-generated art. On a recent trip to New York, I was happy to see a return to painting in the galleries I visited; no more projectors and flat-screen installations, and that’s something of a relief to me. I feel fortunate to have grown up with a typewriter and records, moved to CDs and word processors, and now I have a computer I use as strategically as possible. Mostly you’ll find me reading books, listening to records, and visiting as many artists in their studios and galleries as possible. The all-consuming pendulum of the digital age has hit its apex, at least in the art world, and for people younger than myself in particular: The tangible, sensual, real-time experience of creation is making a major comeback. The desire to get one’s hands dirty is an inexplicable fact of being.</p>
<p><strong>How does your digital music listening experience stack up to your vinyl collection?</strong></p>
<p>Being very much aware of the havoc corporations like Spotify have inflicted on the music industry, I’m adamant about the listener’s responsibility to support musicians because their livelihood is at risk. Needless to say, were so many musicians any less committed to their practice, we would live in a world of silence, barring only the most mainstream pop celebrities.</p>
<p>That said, I have a Spotify account and use it regularly to hear sounds I’ve never heard before; in that sense, it’s a practical tool to have. But if I like something, I’ll buy a ticket to the show, a record or two at my local shop or directly from the musician. It’s actually rather shocking, and saddening, to realize how popular one has to be to make a sustainable wage as a musician. If everyone at a concert threw in $10 into a tip jar, then that musician who just entertained you for a few hours might not have to get up the next morning to mow someone’s lawn or mop the floor of a brewery.</p>
<p><strong>In 2006, Bill Berkson and Bernadette Mayer published <em>What&#8217;s Your Idea of a Good Time?: Letters &amp; Interviews 1977-1985. </em>What’s your idea of a good time?</strong></p>
<p>Exactly.</p>
<figure id="attachment_58845" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-58845" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-58845" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/KS1-275x275.jpg" alt="Kyle Schlesinger reading with Bill Berkson at Nate Ethier’s Speak About the Ocean exhibition, Nancy Margolis Gallery, 2016. Photo by Alison Gervais. " width="275" height="275" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/06/KS1-275x275.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/06/KS1-71x71.jpg 71w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/06/KS1-32x32.jpg 32w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/06/KS1-64x64.jpg 64w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/06/KS1-96x96.jpg 96w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/06/KS1-128x128.jpg 128w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/06/KS1-150x150.jpg 150w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/06/KS1.jpg 500w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-58845" class="wp-caption-text">Kyle Schlesinger reading with Bill Berkson at Nate Ethier’s Speak About the Ocean exhibition, Nancy Margolis Gallery, 2016. Photo by Alison Gervais.</figcaption></figure>
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		<title>Ad Absurdum: A Collection of Poems by Marcel Broodthaers</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>I new translation collects two poems and a suite of appropriated images in one volume.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>A new edition of three books by Marcel Broodthaers is published by Siglio on the occasion of his retrospective at the Museum of Modern Art.</em></p>
<figure id="attachment_58386" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-58386" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-58386" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Marcel-Broodthaers-04.jpg" alt="Excerpt from the projection work Shadow Theater, published in Marcel Broodthaers: My Ogre Book, Shadow Theater, Midnight (Siglio, 2016). " width="550" height="367" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/06/Marcel-Broodthaers-04.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/06/Marcel-Broodthaers-04-275x184.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-58386" class="wp-caption-text">Excerpt from the projection work Shadow Theater, published in Marcel Broodthaers: My Ogre Book, Shadow Theater, Midnight (Siglio, 2016).</figcaption></figure>
<p><em>“A </em>surd<em> is a radical whose meaning cannot be exactly ascertained.”</em> &#8211; Lewis Carroll</p>
<p>One exciting thing about the creative act (in the parlance of Marcel Duchamp) is its way of bringing about, for actor and viewer, things that haven’t been experienced before. At least not in the same context. Some of what’s been made by the Belgian poet, filmmaker, and artist Marcel Broodthaers is a good example of this, and in a way that also allows the viewer to creatively complete the picture by way of imagining new meanings of what’s being shown. With this I’d like to bring up nonsense, or better an<em>other</em> sense, which is what to my mind what Broodthaers was engaged in. In <em>My Ogre Book, Shadow Theater, Midnight</em> (Siglio, 2016), he tries on Lewis Carroll’s shoes and explores the partitions of reality and make-believe. In one edition of texts and images spanning a little more than a decade, the book collects three short works. The first of three parts, <em>Mon livre d’ogre</em> (<em>My Ogre Book</em>, 1957), is a tableau in a series of poems — with <em>Midnight</em> (1960) in similar fashion, and then the all-image collection <em>Shadow Theater</em> (1973-1974) between the two, made from one of Broodthaers’ Projection series.</p>
<figure id="attachment_58384" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-58384" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-58384 size-medium" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Marcel_Broodthaers-Cover-mockup-275x355.jpg" alt="Cover of the book under review." width="275" height="355" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/06/Marcel_Broodthaers-Cover-mockup-275x355.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/06/Marcel_Broodthaers-Cover-mockup.jpg 387w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-58384" class="wp-caption-text">Cover of the book under review.</figcaption></figure>
<p>Like in Carroll, the <em>why</em> of Broodthaers needn’t be put into words. The tale that Broodthaers weaves is often a fragmented one that is at times homely and always bewildering. These things are what make his poetry congenial, seeming from the wellsprings of consciousness. Consciousness, after all, as writer Harry Mathews has said, “does not produce a particular meaning — it produces no conclusions.” That seems a pretty apt description of this collection: Broodthaers isn’t concluding anything, and with that he makes an adventurer of his reader. For children first, this nonsense has always been a secret means of access to a more vibrant, harlequin world — one I’ve come to find belongs to poetry, in all of its guises.</p>
<p>When the first of the three books came out, it was 1957, a post-war world. The first US edition of Dr. Seuss’ <em>The Cat in the Hat </em>appeared, and Allen Ginsberg’s <em>Howl</em> was printed in England and seized by customs officials that year. What is the significance of this? Maybe nothing. To liken Broodthaers’ writing to Carroll is, by the way, in no way to call it anachronistic — a word I’ll look askance at, not abiding by the notion that styles “belong” to specific eras. At the start of <em>My Ogre Book</em>, through the “present day mirror,” morning becomes a world unto itself, reminding one of Alice holding to her orange. Broodthaers also, while courting a familiar style, brings to the poems motifs and highly unusual turns all his own. There is otherworldly music where donkeys play the drums, and the bells of Easter Island, well, remain silent. Elsewhere goats knock on doors, fairies grind coffee, paper flowers fill with dew, and all the while everyday, clearly explained things happen too, making some of this fantasy material even more interesting. “The wind allies itself with the fire/ the rafts burn in the night” is one such line so lucid you can almost smell the smoke, and “The key is under the doormat” as ever.</p>
<figure id="attachment_58387" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-58387" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-58387" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Marcel-Broodthaers-06-275x184.jpg" alt="Excerpt from the projection work Shadow Theater, published in Marcel Broodthaers: My Ogre Book, Shadow Theater, Midnight (Siglio, 2016). " width="275" height="184" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/06/Marcel-Broodthaers-06-275x184.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/06/Marcel-Broodthaers-06.jpg 550w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-58387" class="wp-caption-text">Excerpt from the projection work Shadow Theater, published in Marcel Broodthaers: My Ogre Book, Shadow Theater, Midnight (Siglio, 2016).</figcaption></figure>
<p>In his writing and in the images within <em>Shadow Theater</em>, Broodthaers was able to summon the chance-originated play, conundrums, or (un)concerns that his later visual artworks hinge on physically. I’m thinking of Broodthaers’ <em>La Pluie</em>, a 1969 film wherein the artist tries to write as “rain” falls on him, washing away text even as he continues to write. A simple, strange tableau on astronomical situations, human effort and circumstance, all of Broodthaers’ work seems to engage the processes of being in the world and making things. But in his writings, the poet plays with meaning with an almost wholesale disregard for ordinary sense — <em>no net </em>as far as the game of reasoning and logic goes, he creates extra significances that endlessly drift in and out of new senses. In <em>Midnight</em>, surprising things take place: rain falls from the sun, a straw man guards the sea, a black cat constellation is made, centuries get lined up in a matchbox, and stars are turned to salt. This memorable nonsense impresses me just about as much as the regular phenomena it parodies.</p>
<p>Calling it an artist’s book is no stretch — at just over 150 pages, its layout has the look of a children&#8217;s book juxtaposed with the simple aesthetic appeal of Raymond Roussel and the artist Zo’s collaboration from 1929, <em>New Impressions of Africa</em>, where images and cantos are informed by one another throughout. The images in this book lie between the two short collections of poems but have no text on their pages.</p>
<figure id="attachment_58388" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-58388" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-58388" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Marcel-Broodthaers-07-275x184.jpg" alt="Excerpt from the projection work Shadow Theater, published in Marcel Broodthaers: My Ogre Book, Shadow Theater, Midnight (Siglio, 2016). " width="275" height="184" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/06/Marcel-Broodthaers-07-275x184.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/06/Marcel-Broodthaers-07.jpg 550w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-58388" class="wp-caption-text">Excerpt from the projection work Shadow Theater, published in Marcel Broodthaers: My Ogre Book, Shadow Theater, Midnight (Siglio, 2016).</figcaption></figure>
<p>Thumbing to <em>Shadow Theater</em> (<em>Ombres chinoises</em>) (1973-74) — a series of 80 slides of images taken from comic strips, books, and a photography manual, all of which were projected somewhere sometime — Broodthaers tells another story, again a provisionary one that unravels and winds up again by turns. A visual lexicon involving ordinary or comic incidents, objects, and figures, is reimagined in new juxtapositions that make the familiar baffling. In <em>Shadow Theater</em>, celestial bodies career through outer space and transform to erupting volcanoes, exploding perhaps through a kitchen window, to maybe cause the seasons to tear a man from limb-to-limb. Volcanoes, shadow puppets, and solid black rectangles are a few of this book’s recurrent motifs.</p>
<p>Broodthaers explained the effect of his work in 1965, saying, “The preference for eternity and the natural had ended up producing academicism, as we know. Its replacement by a preference for the ephemeral, for the artificial, for all that is false, aroused my enthusiasm as much as my poetic loyalty.” In Broodthaers, assumed logic is, for a moment, set aside or transmogrified. Be the truth “interstitial,” as Broodthaers calls it, or mere traces in the mind of the artist, the person experiencing the objects will always come away with something new when the imagination has a say.</p>
<p><strong>Broodthaers, Marcel. <em>My Ogre Book, Shadow Theater, Midnight</em> (New York: Siglio, 2016). Trans. by Elizabeth Zuba with Maria Gilissen Broodthaers. ISBN-13: 978-1-938221-11-8. 160 pages. Edition of 1,000. $39.95</strong></p>
<figure id="attachment_58385" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-58385" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-58385" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Marcel-Broodthaers-02-275x184.jpg" alt="Excerpt from the projection work Shadow Theater, published in Marcel Broodthaers: My Ogre Book, Shadow Theater, Midnight (Siglio, 2016). " width="275" height="184" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/06/Marcel-Broodthaers-02-275x184.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/06/Marcel-Broodthaers-02.jpg 550w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-58385" class="wp-caption-text">Excerpt from the projection work Shadow Theater, published in Marcel Broodthaers: My Ogre Book, Shadow Theater, Midnight (Siglio, 2016).</figcaption></figure>
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		<title>SkyDancers and Concrete Poetry: Scott Zieher at Ampersand</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2016 17:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>The collagist and gallerist presents "Totems &#038; Cantos" in Portland, OR.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>Scott Zieher: Totems &amp; Cantos</em></strong><strong> at </strong><strong>Ampersand Bookshop and Gallery</strong></p>
<p>March 19 to April 24, 2016<br />
2916 NE Alberta Street, Suite B (between NE 29th and NE 30th avenues)<br />
Portland, OR, 503 805 5458</p>
<figure id="attachment_57067" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-57067" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-57067 size-full" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Zieher_totem3.jpg" alt="Scott Zieher, Totem #3, 2012. Collage on paper, 18 x 24 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ampersand." width="550" height="408" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/Zieher_totem3.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/Zieher_totem3-275x205.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-57067" class="wp-caption-text">Scott Zieher, Totem #3, 2012. Collage on paper, 18 x 24 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ampersand.</figcaption></figure>
<p>Long before it was fashionable to glue clippings of ziggurats (to intimate exotica) from 1970s <em>National Geographic </em>pages, juxtaposed with some modern trope or other (to suggest time-flux), collage had already enjoyed its heyday. The many cute new versions readily found online have the attractive quality of anything else torn out of time, labeled “vintage” and mixed with contemporary imagistic trappings, but like anything novel for the sake of novelty, this kind of juvenile charm wears off pretty fast.</p>
<figure id="attachment_57066" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-57066" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-57066 size-medium" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Zieher_totem2-275x210.jpg" alt="Scott Zieher, Totem #2, 2012. Collage on paper, 18 x 24 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ampersand." width="275" height="210" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/Zieher_totem2-275x210.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/Zieher_totem2.jpg 550w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-57066" class="wp-caption-text">Scott Zieher, Totem #2, 2012. Collage on paper, 18 x 24 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ampersand.</figcaption></figure>
<p>On the other hand, (there’s always another one) there’s “Totems &amp; Cantos,” on view this month at Ampersand Bookshop &amp; Gallery, featuring a selection of collage work by artist and New York gallerist Scott Zieher, created over the past five years. While wildly juxtaposed (e.g. a single glove standing in for legs), these collages aren’t composed of zany connections but diurnal, sometimes totally banal objects displaced, re-contextualized, and distorted to make for something more decorative, puzzling, strange, and often very funny. Actually, these aren’t superimpositions or replacements at all, they’re imaginary constructions. This characterizes their charm. That the figures are composed of disparate parts, giving them almost a readymade quality, makes them more convincing. But of what?</p>
<p>Marvelous robots and occult figurines wear hats made of images of what appear to be bowls, dishes, thimbles, and crucibles, hanging there (so to speak) on toothy white sheets or else found pages in frames, as if to pose their incipient questions from nevertheless mesmerizing appearances. Some of them have toothbrush and bottle bodies or some kind of marble plinth lower situation. Their compositions often appear to have been made up of parts decided on by pulling from a hat. One form, <em>Wave Pattern</em> (2015), is mostly the clipping of a colorful blue, white, and gold waveform filigree ending in a cluster of spheres (flattened, left within borders of white), while another figure in <em>Totem #2</em> (2012) is made up entirely of those famous helical stripes of a barber shop’s pole.</p>
<figure id="attachment_57065" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-57065" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-57065" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/zieher_rain_cone-275x332.jpg" alt="Scott Zieher, Rain Cone, 2015. Collage on found paper, 14 x 11 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ampersand." width="275" height="332" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/zieher_rain_cone-275x332.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/zieher_rain_cone.jpg 414w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-57065" class="wp-caption-text">Scott Zieher, Rain Cone, 2015. Collage on found paper, 14 x 11 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ampersand.</figcaption></figure>
<p>When <em>Totem #2</em>, the first in this series of 18, makes its appearance near the Ampersand entrance, its four figures stand waiting like deranged poker players and you’re <em>late </em>to the game. But there’s neither hostility nor friendliness in these visages, nothing personal or alien for that matter, and it’s partly because of this that Zieher’s pictures are so enchanting. It’s this kind of magic within the human imagination that Bertrand Russell writes about, describing a force that comes from far off carrying with it the “vastness and fearful passionless force of non-human things.” That’s what these things look like to me anyway. It’s a strange distancing relative to the so-called ordinary that causes the artifice to change a person’s perception with what amounts here to more or less simple cut-up decorations. And there’s always an odd one out. The last in the above-mentioned line of four is caught mid-sway as one of those crazed SkyDancers seen at used car dealerships, only one made of stacked electric hotplates supporting a totemic mask for a head, rather than monochrome nylon. One could posit that this work has something to say about commercial imagery, but should that be done here?</p>
<p>In addition to these dazzling figural compositions, here and there are other forms. <em>Rain Cone</em> (2015) is an ice cream with a kind of hot pink spray paint overlay, and venturing further into the exhibition is a series of multiple forms made up of fragments of type and snippets of collage, aptly called <em>Concretude</em> (2015) (alluding to the shaped language of concrete poetry). Looking long enough at Zieher’s cinematic collages, one begins to consider what that old stage conjurer Georges Méliès was doing when he assembled his magical films a century ago. Through a certain kind of lens, ordinary things (even letters and numbers, not out-and-out strange in their own right straightaway) are put together to make something happen that one didn’t at all expect. In the case of the <em>Concretude</em>s, one can scarcely make out letters at all. These compositions amount to a visual gag, turning the tables on art of the imponderable by way of common objects.</p>
<figure id="attachment_57069" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-57069" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-57069" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/zieher_wave_pattern-275x353.jpg" alt="Scott Zieher, Wave Pattern, 2015. Collage on found paper, 14 x 11 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ampersand." width="275" height="353" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/zieher_wave_pattern-275x353.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/zieher_wave_pattern.jpg 389w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-57069" class="wp-caption-text">Scott Zieher, Wave Pattern, 2015. Collage on found paper, 14 x 11 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ampersand.</figcaption></figure>
<p>After having seen the exhibition once, a few of these odd little minions paid a visit in two successive nights’ dreams, occasioning my return to them, to guess at the origins of their constituent facets and search for deeper meanings — a totally hopeless task. Seeing this exhibition a second time, Zieher’s works seem, to me at least, to be composed only to delight, taking on the characteristics of dreams. Like some of these compositions, dreams are often cold and at some remove as they occur, but are sometimes unforgettable. Archetypes may be manifested in dreams through familiar and uncanny imagery, and these collages have that same temperament, if such a term can be used for inanimate constructions. Emotions on ice.</p>
<p>Zeiher’s exquisite miniature images are X-Acto’d fragments butted up against larger parts with a scarcity of imperfection, so that when a visual hiccup does appear — such as a white border corner taking a turn to brown or black toward its furthest edge — one has to wonder if it happened by mistake at all. And if not, then are these images, in keeping with their mode of curiosity cabinet on paper, really just here to delight? This is the kind of art that necessitates no further context, history, or other anecdotal information, save for the fact of their creator’s absolute painstaking and considered rendering. This singularly interesting collection of pictures is <em>exactly</em> enough.</p>
<figure id="attachment_57068" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-57068" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-57068" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Zieher_totem6-275x203.jpg" alt="Scott Zieher, Totem #6, 2012. Collage on paper, 18 x 24 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ampersand." width="275" height="203" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/Zieher_totem6-275x203.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/Zieher_totem6.jpg 550w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-57068" class="wp-caption-text">Scott Zieher, Totem #6, 2012. Collage on paper, 18 x 24 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ampersand.</figcaption></figure>
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		<title>Poet, Printer, Prankster: Marcel Broodthaers in Retrospect</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>The late artist is the subject of four simultaneous exhibitions, including a MoMA retrospective.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>Marcel Broodthaers: A Retrospective</em> at The Museum of Modern Art</strong><br />
February 14 to May 15, 2016<br />
11 W 53rd Street (between 5th and 6th avenues)<br />
New York, 212 708 9400</p>
<p><strong><em>Marcel Broodthaers: Écriture</em> at Michael Werner Gallery</strong><br />
January 28 to March 26, 2016<br />
4 E 77th Street (between Madison and 5th avenues)<br />
New York, 212 988 1623</p>
<p><strong><em>Marcel Broodthaers</em> at Paul Kasmin Gallery</strong><br />
March 3 to April 23, 2016<br />
515 W 27th Street (between 10th and 11th avenues)<br />
New York, 212 563 4474</p>
<p><strong><em>Marcel Broodthaers: Invitation to a Voyage</em> at Alden Projects</strong><br />
March 5 to May 8, 2016<br />
34 Orchard Street (between Hester and Canal)<br />
New York, 212 229 2453</p>
<figure id="attachment_56448" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-56448" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-56448" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/moma_broodthaers_ch2016.298.jpg" alt="Marcel Broodthaers, Pense-Bête (Memory aid), 1964. Books, paper, plaster, and plastic balls on wood base, without base: 11 13/16 × 33 1/4 × 16 15/16 inches. © 2016 Estate of Marcel Broodthaers/Artists Rights Society/SABAM, Brussels." width="550" height="380" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/moma_broodthaers_ch2016.298.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/moma_broodthaers_ch2016.298-275x190.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-56448" class="wp-caption-text">Marcel Broodthaers, Pense-Bête (Memory aid), 1964. Books, paper, plaster, and plastic balls on wood base, without base: 11 13/16 × 33 1/4 × 16 15/16 inches. © 2016 Estate of Marcel Broodthaers/Artists Rights Society/SABAM, Brussels.</figcaption></figure>
<p>Marcel Broodthaers (1924-76) was a late starter, only becoming a visual artist when he was 40, having spent 20 years trying to make a living as a poet. And he died relatively young, on his 52nd birthday. But as demonstrated by three concurrent shows — at Paul Kasmin, Michael Werner, and the Museum of Modern Art — he was highly productive during a short period. An additional show at Alden Projects displays exhibition invitations, posters, letters, and other similar materials.</p>
<figure id="attachment_56447" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-56447" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-56447" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/moma_broodthaers_ch2016_913_cccr-275x279.jpg" alt="Marcel Broodthaers, Moules sauce blanche (Mussels with white sauce), 1967. Painted pot, mussel shells, paint, and tinted resin, 14 3/4 inches in diameter; 19 1/8 inches high. © 2016 Estate of Marcel Broodthaers/Artists Rights Society/SABAM, Brussels." width="275" height="279" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/moma_broodthaers_ch2016_913_cccr-275x279.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/moma_broodthaers_ch2016_913_cccr-71x71.jpg 71w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/moma_broodthaers_ch2016_913_cccr-32x32.jpg 32w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/moma_broodthaers_ch2016_913_cccr-64x64.jpg 64w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/moma_broodthaers_ch2016_913_cccr-96x96.jpg 96w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/moma_broodthaers_ch2016_913_cccr.jpg 493w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-56447" class="wp-caption-text">Marcel Broodthaers, Moules sauce blanche (Mussels with white sauce), 1967. Painted pot, mussel shells, paint, and tinted resin, 14 3/4 inches in diameter; 19 1/8 inches high. © 2016 Estate of Marcel Broodthaers/Artists Rights Society/SABAM, Brussels.</figcaption></figure>
<p>There are 200 works, on view at his MoMA survey, including books of poetry and photographs, works made before Broodthaers formally entered the visual arts. His transition can also be seen there, when he turned the unsold copies of his last volume of poetry into the sculpture <em>Pense-Bête </em>(“Memory aid,” 1964), his first artwork, for his first solo exhibition. Once he turned to making art, he created a number of sculptures, which recycle mussels and eggshells, his signature materials. They are ordinary, used-up organic forms. Mussels are often served in Belgian restaurants and he thought of them as poetic. Mussel shells, he wrote, are hulls, two conjoined complete forms. And eggs, of course, are symbols of life and fecundity.</p>
<p>He put eggshells on furniture in <em>Armoire blanche et table blanche </em>(“White cabinet and white table,” 1965), on painted canvas in <em>Untitled (Triptych) </em>(1965-66), and in a box labeled as containing exhibition invitations, in <em>Je retrouve à la matière, je retrouve la tradition des primitifs, peinture à l’oeuf, peinture à l’oeuf </em>(“I return to matter, I rediscover the tradition of the primitives, painting with egg, painting with egg,” 1966). Cooked mussels are found piled in a pot in <em>Grande casserole de moules </em>(“Large casserole of mussels,” 1966) and displayed in crates in <em>Parc à </em>moules (“Tray of mussels,” 1966).</p>
<p>In 1968, announcing that he was no longer an artist, Broodthaers appointed himself director of his own museum: <em>Musée d’Art Moderne, Départment des Aigles </em>(“Museum of Modern Art, Department of Eagles”), an installation project that began in his home and was later restaged at documenta and at the Kunsthalle Düsseldorf. MoMA displays documentation — announcements, films, slide shows and also objects — generated by that career. One finds postcards of paintings, maps of the museum, photographs of the exhibitions, slide shows and display cases. <em>Untitled (General with cigar) </em>(1970), features a found thrift-shop painting of General Philippe Pétain (treasonous Chief of State in Vichy France) with a cigar stuck in his mouth, part of Broodthaers’s recurring interest in smoking and its prohibition as poetic and bureaucratic propositions.</p>
<figure id="attachment_56445" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-56445" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-56445" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/moma_broodthaers_613_2011_cccr-275x363.jpg" alt="Marcel Broodthaers, Untitled (General with cigar), 1970. Found oil painting and cigar, 15 3/4 x 11 13/16 x 2 3/4 inches. © 2016 Estate of Marcel Broodthaers/Artists Rights Society/SABAM, Brussels." width="275" height="363" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/moma_broodthaers_613_2011_cccr-275x363.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/moma_broodthaers_613_2011_cccr.jpg 379w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-56445" class="wp-caption-text">Marcel Broodthaers, Untitled (General with cigar), 1970. Found oil painting and cigar, 15 3/4 x 11 13/16 x 2 3/4 inches. © 2016 Estate of Marcel Broodthaers/Artists Rights Society/SABAM, Brussels.</figcaption></figure>
<p>Four years later, in 1972, Broodthaers announced that he again was an artist, and hired a sign painter to print words on canvas, and on the walls and ceiling of a gallery. He made <em>Série en language française (Series de neuf peintures sur un sujet littéraire) </em>(“Series in the French language, Series of nine paintings on a literary subject,” 1972), which includes “Andre Gide smoking,” “Paul Valery smoking,” and so on. And, written in English, he produced nine painted canvases, <em>Série anglaise </em>(“English series,” 1972): a set of prints featuring the names and birth and death dates of English luminaries such as Edgar Allan Poe, Lewis Carroll, James Joyce, and others.</p>
<p>Starting in 1974, he recycled his earlier work, employing old-fashioned displays with palm trees, carpets and 19th-century display cases, in exhibitions that he documented on film, calling them “Décors,” which can be translated as “installations” as well as “film sets.”</p>
<p>The gallery shows provide a valuable supplement to the MoMA exhibition. Uptown, “Marcel Broodthaers: Écriture,” at Michael Werner, focuses on his writing, one of his major concerns, and includes collages, drawings, films, collage, sculptures and one of his décors, <em>Dites Partout Que Je L&#8217;Ai Dit </em>(“Say Everywhere What I Have Said,” 1974). In Chelsea, Paul Kasmin presents paintings on plastic and Broodthaers’s books, along with the reconstruction of another décor, <em>Ne dites pas que je ne l’ai pas it- Le Perroquet </em>(“Don’t Say I Didn’t Say So — The Parrot,” 1974), a recording of him reciting his poem <em>“Moi Je Dis Mois Je Dis Je&#8230;“</em></p>
<figure id="attachment_56446" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-56446" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-56446 size-medium" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/moma_broodthaers_677_2011_cc-275x382.jpg" alt="Marcel Broodthaers, Musée d’Art Moderne à vendre–pour cause de faillite (Museum of Modern Art for sale–due to bankruptcy), 1970–71. Artist’s book, letterpress dust jacket wrapped around catalogue of Kӧlner Kunstmarkt ’71, with artist’s inscriptions, 17 11/16 x 12 5/8 x 5/16 inches. © 2016 Estate of Marcel Broodthaers/Artists Rights Society/SABAM, Brussels." width="275" height="382" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/moma_broodthaers_677_2011_cc-275x382.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/moma_broodthaers_677_2011_cc.jpg 360w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-56446" class="wp-caption-text">Marcel Broodthaers, Musée d’Art Moderne à vendre–pour cause de faillite (Museum of Modern Art for sale–due to bankruptcy), 1970–71. Artist’s book, letterpress dust jacket wrapped around catalogue of Kӧlner Kunstmarkt ’71, with artist’s inscriptions, 17 11/16 x 12 5/8 x 5/16 inches. © 2016 Estate of Marcel Broodthaers/Artists Rights Society/SABAM, Brussels.</figcaption></figure>
<p>Starting with Hegel, and extended by Marx and, more recently, by any number of Marxist critics, the idea that history (and art) proceeds by critical negation has become received opinion among many leftists. This is how T. J. Clark understands Impressionism and Abstract Expressionism, and how Theodor W. Adorno described Modernist music. And it is how Benjamin H. D. Buchloh, who contributes to a catalogue produced for the MoMA retrospective, understands Broodthaers.</p>
<p>By now, however, it should be apparent that art-as-critique has become a ritual, just another artistic tradition. Our museums (and art galleries) embrace their most distinguished critics. Just as the once-feared “death of painting” has yielded an ongoing tradition of painting, so the deconstructive art of Broodthaers has become part-and-parcel of both the gallery system and the public art museum, though he certainly aimed to upend this dialectical narrative by such acts as the destruction and/or reuse of his own previous work. Duchamp showed that any banal artifact might become a readymade; Andy Warhol and Jeff Koons demonstrated that a replica of a commercial product might become art. Hans Haacke made commercial art critiquing the commercial gallery system, and Broodthaers (among others) revealed that anti-art might itself be the subject of display and commerce.</p>
<p>I suspect that some leftists are frustrated by this situation. I’m fascinated with the ways that our culture honors and supports its critics. The narrative of the Hegelian dialectic, which is the conceptual basis for this process of negation, has come to a standstill, which isn’t to say that the history of art has ended, as Hegel feared-and-hoped, but only that the seemingly radical pursuit of negating gestures, having become an end in itself, is a source of objects which are as aesthetically delectable as any Modernist masterpieces. Broodthaers critiques the art world from within, and so leaves its practice, to which he contributed, more firmly in place. In his catalogue essay, Buchloh argues that Broodthaers disputes “the false and preposterous claims that artistic practices could engender radical political or cultural transformations.” That, I think, is not quite correct. In fact, the present apotheosis of Broodthaers as an artist is a radical cultural transformation, just not the liberatory one that people of the arts so often talk of in vague and longing terms. Indeed, in a marvelous posthumous revelation of the reach of Broodthaers’s idea, MoMA is publishing a limited-edition facsimile of his book <em>Atlas</em> (1975). The deluxe version, which contains a supplement, the uncut press sheet included by Broodthaers in the original publication, is sold exclusively at MoMA stores.</p>
<figure id="attachment_56449" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-56449" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-56449" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/moma_broodthaers_installationview369-275x160.jpg" alt="Installation view of &quot;Marcel Broodthaers: A Retrospective,&quot; 2016, at the Museum of Modern Art. Courtesy of the Museum of Modern Art." width="275" height="160" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/moma_broodthaers_installationview369-275x160.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/moma_broodthaers_installationview369.jpg 550w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-56449" class="wp-caption-text">Installation view of &#8220;Marcel Broodthaers: A Retrospective,&#8221; 2016, at the Museum of Modern Art. Courtesy of the Museum of Modern Art.</figcaption></figure>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Corbett discusses his personal and aesthetic interest in the work of Franz Kline.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I’ve been visiting — with artists, writers, curators, dealers, and others in the art world — to look at an artwork of my guest’s choice. We have a one-on-one conversation about the artwork, what they find interesting in it and why it’s important to them. In this edition, I went to the Museum of Modern Art with the poet and critic Bill Corbett, publisher of Pressed Wafer Books and author of </em>Philip Guston’s Late Work: A Memoir<em> (1998). Corbett wrote a suite of poems about Franz Kline, and took me to see Kline’s </em>Painting Number 2<em> (1954).</em></p>
<p><figure id="attachment_53159" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-53159" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/No._2_Franz_Kline-1.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-53159" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/No._2_Franz_Kline-1.jpg" alt="Franz Kline, Painting Number 2, 1954. Oil on canvas, 80 1/2 inches x 105 inches. Museum of Modern Art (© 2013 The Franz Kline Estate / Artists Rights Society [ARS], New York)" width="550" height="416" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/No._2_Franz_Kline-1.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/No._2_Franz_Kline-1-275x208.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-53159" class="wp-caption-text">Franz Kline, Painting Number 2, 1954. Oil on canvas, 80 1/2 inches x 105 inches. Museum of Modern Art (© 2013 The Franz Kline Estate / Artists Rights Society [ARS], New York)</figcaption></figure><strong>NOAH DILLON: Would you begin by orienting us in Kline’s career when this was made, and what this painting is indicative of in that era?</strong></p>
<p>WILLIAM CORBETT: It’s 1954. He’d been an abstract painter for six or seven years, with a number of successful shows. He was a regular at the Cedar Bar, where he spoke in that Kline-ese that Frank O’Hara caught so beautifully in “Franz Kline Talking” (1958). He’d moved around, possibly rivaling Hokusai’s 734 addresses. When you see photographs of his homes, you see why Kline once said, “Bohemia is a place where a dog would go to die.”</p>
<p>This is a pretty big painting, at this time, but he was to paint bigger pictures. He was dead in 1962, but now he’s in his late 40s, maybe at the top of his game, though the money hadn’t yet come to him.</p>
<p>Let me go back: I said coming up here that one of my interests in Kline is extra-aesthetic. My early childhood was in East Mauch Chunk, Pennsylvania, which isn’t far from Lehighton, where Kline grew up. I was 12 in 1954 and didn&#8217;t know anything about him. But when I learned about him and saw his work in the early 1960s, I immediately recognized the landscape elements. I responded to those as if I’d come home in a way. Here you can find the train tracks he saw up and down the Lehigh River. I’m not saying he was trying to abstractly paint a landscape. I’m saying those things were so deep within him that they naturally came out when he picked up a brush.</p>
<figure id="attachment_53160" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-53160" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/tumblr_lrsydcfr0Q1qzyaneo1_1280.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-53160" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/tumblr_lrsydcfr0Q1qzyaneo1_1280-275x192.jpg" alt="Franz Kline, Wotan, 1950. Oil on canvas over masonite, 55 x 80 inches." width="275" height="192" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/tumblr_lrsydcfr0Q1qzyaneo1_1280-275x192.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/tumblr_lrsydcfr0Q1qzyaneo1_1280.jpg 550w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-53160" class="wp-caption-text">Franz Kline, Wotan, 1950. Oil on canvas over masonite, 55 x 80 inches.</figcaption></figure>
<p>This has associations with buildings, with timber and with scaffolding. A number of his pictures can be read that way. But I’m now seeing something I haven’t seen before: he has a number of paintings, such as <em>Wotan</em> (1950), where there’s an off or wobbly square. It’s starting to emerge here, and that will be a central image. He’ll clean this up in many cases, all that wonderful stuff, all that ideogrammatic stuff. He always said, “I don’t know anything about ideograms”; he liked to disassociate himself with that. And I believe him.</p>
<p>There’s also another quality that I associate with New York: the billboard size that he was moving toward, just like most of his contemporaries. Those guys went to the movies. They began to get a sense of scale. We know he worked from small things and blew them up with a Bell-Opticon projector. Imagine that he’s starting with intimate drawings — covering his studio floor, drawn on telephone book pages. And he’s blowing them up.</p>
<p>I think he was after the dream of the abstract painters, which was to make drawing and painting one. For these guys — for him, Philip Guston, Willem de Kooning — it was to get the immediacy of drawing, to locate the viewer in that immediacy, and then to make it happen in paint. A work like this, it seems to me, is absolutely recognizable, because it’s a clear, firsthand apprehension of a reality. That communicates to me.</p>
<p>These men, and the few women, liked to remind you that they were at work; you see the uncleaned drips. For Harold Rosenberg this was Action Painting. Alright, I get that, and I think that’s probably right. With Kline it’s a little bit different, because when you know the Bell-Opticon, the action’s over! But he’s doing something else. I think it’s like when I would first go to openings, in the early 1960s, the painters would come in with their clothes and their shoes all paint-stained. And, man, it always looked so hip.</p>
<p><strong>It sends a message.</strong></p>
<p>But I think there’s more: he wants to show that the work he put into this is part of his aesthetic. Not that he’s going to be praised as, “Oh, Franz, what a hard worker,” but for his notion of what could come at the end of a brush. It could be a splatter, or incomplete lines where the paint has run out of the brush. He also, I think, wanted to give a sense of the moment, make you feel present. As you pointed out, he used house paint and the image is now getting lost: it’s cracking, yellowing, it’s a conservator’s nightmare. In a way, I think it’s too bad that conservators feel compelled to restore this painting to what it was.</p>
<p><strong>How’s that?</strong></p>
<p>Well, just like de Kooning, he used house paint because he couldn’t then afford fine paint. But it means this painting is for the here and now. And I think that in the back of his mind he may have had the idea that it would change and move into a new here and now.</p>
<p>I think of Auden going back to his poems and second-guessing them, even famous ones like “September 1, 1939” (1939), changing lines because he thought better of them. I’m ambivalent about that. Did he think there would be a perfect poem? What about the poem in its moment? Didn’t it have the right to be there? I think we lose something by taking Kline’s paintings away from that original impulse. But I wrote a sequence of poems about Kline, and when I opened it again recently, and began to read again, I did an Audening and made a few corrections.</p>
<p>I remember these paintings fresh and new, and I’ve watched them age over time. I can hold that all in my mind. But if you think of the bohemian guy, living the life he did, painting in one studio after another, using house paint, it seems to be part of his aesthetic. It would age, absolutely — needing a kind of footnoting. Those footnotes would be a little like restoring this.</p>
<figure id="attachment_53156" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-53156" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/49.-Sweet-Smell-of-Success.png"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-53156" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/49.-Sweet-Smell-of-Success-275x167.png" alt="Still from The Sweet Smell of Success, 1957, dir. by Alexander Mackendrick. TRT: 96 minutes. Courtesy of United Artists." width="275" height="167" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/49.-Sweet-Smell-of-Success-275x167.png 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/49.-Sweet-Smell-of-Success.png 720w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-53156" class="wp-caption-text">Still from The Sweet Smell of Success, 1957, dir. by Alexander Mackendrick. TRT: 96 minutes. Courtesy of United Artists.</figcaption></figure>
<p><strong>I think that about a lot: it’s hard to pull the former context up with you, and it’s hard to pull the present back into the past.</strong></p>
<p>Absolutely, and it’s going to be hard. That’s part of the great pleasure of looking at art. Does it take us back there? This certainly takes me back to what was, after all, a black-and-white world: the photographs, the movies. You can imagine this being an aerial shot of the city in <em>The Sweet Smell of Success</em> (1957). It has the life of that moment.</p>
<p><strong>I’m curious about the painting’s development, because some marks (such as the drips) reveal that it was turned upside down. Do you have any thoughts about why that is, or how that works in the image itself?</strong></p>
<p>Well, I wonder where this was in his studio. As soon as you said that, I thought, OK, he didn’t frame this. This is probably by Robert Kulicke, as you can see by the small gap you see all around the edge. It’s modest, and it certainly puts the painting forward.</p>
<p>This looks like color in the center, some gray, which is unusual for him at this time. He didn’t come back to color until very late. And some of those paintings I find the least compelling. Or I’m torn. I can’t tell: is it because he didn’t know how to use color? Or is it because I’m so used to the moves he makes and want to see them in new combinations and permutations?</p>
<p>Now that we’re being more formal, I’m thinking that this is a spur-of-the-moment picture; but he got to an underpinning. That’s why the Opticon is so important. I think many people imagine that Kline pulled out the canvas and the brush and just whoosh! Whoosh! Whoosh! But you don’t see much under this, which is where the Bell-Opticon is. The casualness, the spontaneity, isn’t mocked, it’s not parodied, but he sees it as a start with a different ending. It’s not like de Kooning, where the approach is first to get it right and then fuck it up.</p>
<figure id="attachment_53157" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-53157" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/easter-monday-1955-56_willem_de_kooning.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-53157" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/easter-monday-1955-56_willem_de_kooning-275x356.jpg" alt="Willem de Kooning, Easter Monday, 1955-56. Oil and newspaper transfer on canvas, 96 x 74 inches. Courtesy of the artist and the Metropolitan Museum of Art." width="275" height="356" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/easter-monday-1955-56_willem_de_kooning-275x356.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/easter-monday-1955-56_willem_de_kooning.jpg 386w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-53157" class="wp-caption-text">Willem de Kooning, Easter Monday, 1955-56. Oil and newspaper transfer on canvas, 96 x 74 inches. Courtesy of the artist and the Metropolitan Museum of Art.</figcaption></figure>
<p><strong>He also talked about the whites being as important and the blacks, which you can see in how they’re laid on with the white dripping out over the black at the top, or vice versa along the left edge. There’re also formal echoes between the white fields and black marks in places.</strong></p>
<p>It’s the blacks that I always remember, but I wouldn’t see them without the whites, so they’re at least as important in that way. Form’s gotta have a ground. He’s right. We can’t ignore the great things he did on phone book pages. It’s obviously an issue of not having any money and using the materials at hand. And it’s black on shitty paper and over phone numbers. It’s a little bit like those monotypes that show up on de Koonings, like <em>Easter Monday</em> (1955-56), where the pictures on the newspaper are transferred into the paint. It’s another aspect of him that de Kooning influenced, and that touched everybody. De Kooning caught all that was going on in New York so profoundly that it was hard to look at it. People were drawn to those painters. I can’t think of too many painters that came out of Kline.</p>
<p><strong>Well, Brice Marden perhaps, Christopher Wool, Jonathan Lasker — painters who work at that synthesis of painting and drawing you talked about earlier. I think you could describe them as being indebted to Kline.</strong></p>
<p>Yes, indebted, but indebted for what? What kind of effect did these have? I think that part of the reason why they didn’t follow him is that he takes care of all the possibilities he opens for the viewer. What you’re inspired to with this painting is that, Jesus Christ, if he can do that then I’ll do exactly what I can do. I’ll feel free. Because, again, in a world of color, he’s reminding us that black and white are colors. In a world of Action Painting, he’s putting the word “action” in quotes. This is more radical in some ways. And radical art, of course, can spawn any number of minions.</p>
<p>And think of the one-of-a-kind things he did: no one’s gonna come up with a phone book page after Kline, unless you’re using it ironically, or you’re doing it in such a way that it becomes part of the work.</p>
<p><strong>Right, that it’s <em>for</em> Kline or it’s quoting him very directly.</strong></p>
<p><strong>We’ve touched on this a little already, but I wonder if you could talk about how this space affects the painting or how you feel the painting affects the surrounding space.</strong></p>
<figure id="attachment_53158" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-53158" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Franz-Kline-Untitled-II.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-53158" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Franz-Kline-Untitled-II-275x328.jpg" alt="Franz Kline, Untitled II, ca. 1952. Ink and oil on cut-and-pasted telephone book pages on paper on board, 11 x 9 inches. Courtesy of the artist and the Museum of Modern Art." width="275" height="328" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/Franz-Kline-Untitled-II-275x328.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/Franz-Kline-Untitled-II.jpg 500w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-53158" class="wp-caption-text">Franz Kline, Untitled II, ca. 1952. Ink and oil on cut-and-pasted telephone book pages on paper on board, 11 x 9 inches. Courtesy of the artist and the Museum of Modern Art.</figcaption></figure>
<p>I’m aware of the room. I’ve been coming to the Modern since about 1959. I was young and knew very little, and I got educated here. I believed the story, and then I began to discover that it’s just a story. Maybe it’s a necessary narrative. Walking in it now is like picking up the books of poets I’ve loved: I’ve read them so much, but at times I’m a little tired of them. Other times I want that pang, want to be back there. And every once in awhile something knocks me out.</p>
<p>I usually don’t look at them as long as I’m looking at this. And this painting, as so often, is growing on me. This is across from a Barnett Newman and you have Helen Frankenthaler here, and near Mark Rothko, de Kooning — all people he knew. Rather than being frozen, this is part of a bigger story.</p>
<p>I wonder what this looked like in Kline’s studio, or in a home, what it first looked like in a gallery. Now it’s ensconced. Has it lost something because of that? Inevitably. I’m sure it affects you. But that’s what a museum does. And in this case I’m standing with this at my left and the Newman at my right; that might not happen in another place.</p>
<p><strong>I wonder how his art — or this painting in particular — finds its way into the work that you do.</strong></p>
<p>I wrote that sequence of poems about Kline and I know a lot about him. I have the background of Lehighton. The paintings are in my head, and I like writing documentary poems. It was fun. There were so many words that kept coming up: suave, and the black of the tuxedo’s lapel. I also wrote a suite, around the same time, to de Kooning. I keep on wondering if I’ll get another one out of somebody. Joan Mitchell keeps coming up. So first of all, there’s the viewer literally inspired by an attempt to get some of that from it. For me, as somebody who loves paintings without knowing why he loves them, and still loves them and the study of them, and wants to know more about the artist, it’s their example, in every way.</p>
<p>One of the things I always like to know, and is a dream for me, is how you get the compositional elements — all that flurry and hurry and bustle — into something that can come up just in the sound of words or the juxtaposition of images. Words seem to insist upon a kind of linear meaning, especially if that poetry comes through the ear as well as the eye. As I wrote about Kline and his work, it often came through finding something that got me writing about art in the beginning. James Schuyler very modestly said, “I just wanted to know what it was like to use words to describe things.” I want that, too. And this gives us new possibilities. We thought of the railroad tracks, the city aspects, the calligraphy, the scaffolding. Those become words, and it’s not just what’s there, it’s what’s here, inside you. For the reader, it’s something to give them the sense of standing here now, the delight I feel in talking about it at this minute. But it also opens it up, so that they could internalize that.</p>
<p>I guess that there’s something else, too. I’ve certainly spent more hours seeing movies, and now television, than I have looking at paintings. What’s the difference? Well, there is a hand involved in this and I’m always aware of it. We’re aware of it from the drips. I can see a person here; I can imaging those studios.</p>
<figure id="attachment_53161" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-53161" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/tumblr_m2r468c9ag1r1bfd7o1_1280.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-53161" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/tumblr_m2r468c9ag1r1bfd7o1_1280-275x355.jpg" alt="Franz Kline mixing paint in his studio. Date and author unknown." width="275" height="355" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/tumblr_m2r468c9ag1r1bfd7o1_1280-275x355.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/tumblr_m2r468c9ag1r1bfd7o1_1280.jpg 387w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-53161" class="wp-caption-text">Franz Kline mixing paint in his studio. Date and author unknown.</figcaption></figure>
<p><strong>You can see the motion of the hand and the gestures it’s making.</strong></p>
<p>Absolutely. There’s also something here that’s generational, I guess: the first painting I saw that really said to me “This could be yours” was an abstract picture. It pissed my parents off, just like listening to jazz did. It certainly separated me from the world I grew up in. But it turned me on in ways I couldn’t figure out. There are things that choose you just as much as you choose them.</p>
<p>As a poet and an art writer, you hope it’s still out there, and that you don’t get to bottom of it. The stuff you get to the bottom of never finds its way into your work. And if it does, you’ve gotta get over it and get out of it.</p>
<p>One of the things I miss in this picture and that I really love is his signature. Kline had one of the great signatures, that blocky, stick-fingered print. It always moves me. I wonder why he didn’t sign it…</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>An anthology of essays on poet-artist collaborations, recently published by Cuneiform Press.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<figure id="attachment_52805" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-52805" style="width: 386px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/ART-OF-COLLABORATION-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-52805" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/ART-OF-COLLABORATION-COVER.jpg" alt="The cover of &quot;The Art of Collaboration: Poets, Artists, Books,&quot; 2015, by Cuneiform Press." width="386" height="500" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/11/ART-OF-COLLABORATION-COVER.jpg 386w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/11/ART-OF-COLLABORATION-COVER-275x356.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 386px) 100vw, 386px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-52805" class="wp-caption-text">The cover of &#8220;The Art of Collaboration: Poets, Artists, Books,&#8221; 2015, by Cuneiform Press.</figcaption></figure>
<p><em>The Art of Collaboration: Poets, Artists, Books</em> (Cuneiform, 2015) delves into collaboration between visual artists and writers, and the production and publishing of artists’ books. The complex relationships between writer, artist and audience are inseparable here, in compelling essays that bear charmingly anecdotal voices. The collection was occasioned by a 2011 symposium at the University of Caen in France entitled Collaboration and the Artist’s Book: a Transatlantic Perspective. The book was edited by Anca Cristofovici and Barbara Montefalcone.</p>
<p>Although many of the writers and artists speaking are American, the essays venture to other parts of the world to show a more diverse sampling of works from this and the last century. It seemed it was then that painters quit scribbling signatures on their paintings, and today, artists and writers suddenly have more interfaces than ever to co-create. The inherited illusion of medium-specificity is being forgotten; artists are working alongside one another, sharing materials, duties, and authorship. This collaborative attribute of contemporary artists and writers distinguishes them from many of their precursors. As the poet Bill Berkson has put it, “such sociability is what puts the work in the world.”<span style="font-size: 13.3333px; line-height: 20px;"> </span>It’s maybe in identifying with others through the work (often from totally different, sometimes opposing positions) that we find our current zeitgeist.</p>
<figure id="attachment_52809" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-52809" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Susan-Bee-Recalculating-oil-on-linen-2010.-Collection-of-Richard-Deming-Nancy-Kuhl..jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-52809" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Susan-Bee-Recalculating-oil-on-linen-2010.-Collection-of-Richard-Deming-Nancy-Kuhl.-275x225.jpg" alt="Susan Bee, Recalculating, 2010. Oil on linen, 16 x 20 inches. Courtesy of the artist and A.I.R. Gallery." width="275" height="225" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/11/Susan-Bee-Recalculating-oil-on-linen-2010.-Collection-of-Richard-Deming-Nancy-Kuhl.-275x225.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/11/Susan-Bee-Recalculating-oil-on-linen-2010.-Collection-of-Richard-Deming-Nancy-Kuhl..jpg 550w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-52809" class="wp-caption-text">Susan Bee, Recalculating, 2010. Oil on linen, 16 x 20 inches. Courtesy of the artist and A.I.R. Gallery.</figcaption></figure>
<p>Most, if not all, of the contributors to the book are regular collaborators, whose collections are often peppered with idiosyncratic, rare, <em>livres d&#8217;artistes</em>. Many of the more hard-to-find artist’s books were and are still made in small print runs for small, even niche, audiences. Working to “reaffirm a sort of Renaissance of the ‘book object,’”<span style="font-size: 13.3333px; line-height: 20px;"> </span>and point out what is now often central to us as readers — collaboration in its many guises — we hear from Gervais Jassaud, Vincent Katz, Bill Berkson, Susan Bee, Raphael Rubinstein, and editor Kyle Schlesinger, to name a handful.</p>
<p>It should be said that poet-painter collaborations are nothing new; the Banquet Years for some of the featured American collaborators took shape a half-century ago in New York (surprise, surprise). This period constitutes the classical moment of artistic collaboration in the 20th century — with Frank O’Hara, Larry Rivers, Joe Brainard, Ted Berrigan, John Ashbery, Kenneth Koch, and others providing a lasting effect on the poetry and art that has been written since these appearances. That all this is nothing new makes following generations’ collaborations, a great sampling of which is covered here, all the more thrilling. Collaborations by Bill Berkson and Joe Brainard, Berkson and Philip Guston, Ron Padgett and George Schneeman, sparked new and wilder joint works by artists who innovated with new technologies, and concomitant new opportunities. As Schlesinger notes, “Exquisite typography, printing, editing, binding, materials, etc. even when highly understated or reserved, are an equally important form of collaboration.”</p>
<figure id="attachment_52808" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-52808" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Joan-Mitchell-James-Schuyler-Daylight-1975..jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-52808" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Joan-Mitchell-James-Schuyler-Daylight-1975.-275x422.jpg" alt="Joan Mitchell and James Schuyler, Daylight, 1975. Pastel on paper, 14 x 9 inches. Courtesy of the artists and Tibor de Nagy Gallery." width="275" height="422" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/11/Joan-Mitchell-James-Schuyler-Daylight-1975.-275x422.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/11/Joan-Mitchell-James-Schuyler-Daylight-1975..jpg 326w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-52808" class="wp-caption-text">Joan Mitchell and James Schuyler, Daylight, 1975. Pastel on paper, 14 x 9 inches. Courtesy of the artists and Tibor de Nagy Gallery.</figcaption></figure>
<p>Many of the essays do a good job of describing the nuances of collaboration outside of conventional norms, with a wide range of interactions between arts, and of considering how “visibility and new reading experiences contribute to the construction of figures of thought.”<span style="font-size: 13.3333px; line-height: 20px;"> </span>The book’s handsomely designed cover bears a photograph of one of the stranger works by Alex Katz: <em>Edwin and Rudy, cutout </em>(1968), a painting on cutout panel, of the poet and dance critic Edwin Denby and Rudy Burckhardt. The job of working “to produce non-identical books in a world of increasingly mass-produced, look-alike consumable products,” Gervais Jassaud nails in his essay entitled “New Aspects in the Making of Artists’ Books.”</p>
<p>Kyle Schlesinger, Cuneiform Press’s publisher and a contributor to this volume, emerges from a rich lineage of creative practitioners who’ve opted for a more collaborative mode in their work, with figures from Black Mountain College (John Cage, Robert Creeley, Cy Twombly, Robert Rauschenberg, etc.) as a jumping off point. Schlesinger’s dictum, “Separate but equal. Together but not the same,” is worth repeating here or tacking up someplace at home. And his curious observation that “there are nearly as many horses in the United States today as there were one hundred years ago,” takes us by way of contextual analogy from the era of horseless carriages to one of new media. Despite certain traditional sensibilities, being a letterpress designer and a typewriter composer, Schlesinger wisely points out the necessity of adaptation to changing media forms. Collaboration is a “primal, and necessary survival instinct,” he says, “and as far as book arts is concerned, ‘here to stay.’” Schlesinger has published several collaborative books: one, composed mostly via text messages between he and James Yeary, called <em>The Do How</em> (Great Fainting Spells, 2014), and one between himself and Deborah Poe (GFS, 2015). He also co-edits <em>Mimeo Mimeo</em>, a journal that focuses on artists’ books, typography and the mimeograph format.</p>
<p>Katz discusses artists’ books and the tradition, which Black Mountain College had a large part in, “taking control of the means of production” so that one would be “able to put one’s own work into the world very quickly, and in the way that one wanted to.&#8221; This perspective sheds light on artistic view that seems more utilitarian, in that product was not only beautiful, but was often also useful, too. Katz’s collaborations with Burckhardt in the book <em>Boulevard Transportation</em> (Tibor de Nagy Editions, 1997) are shown here in a couple of black and white photographic spreads, one a quotidian cityscape, and the other depicting reeds in a glinting lake. The collaborators intended to describe or interpret scenes with their chosen mediums: for Burckhardt, the photograph, and for Katz, poems (which would also interpret Burckhardt’s photographs). “I often wonder if these poems could live apart from this book, because they are really so linked to the photographs,” Katz muses, and it’s clear by the samplings given here that the two were, as the best collaborations will evince, totally in tune.</p>
<figure id="attachment_52806" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-52806" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Bill-Berkson-Joe-Brainard-Recent-Visitors-1971..jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-52806" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Bill-Berkson-Joe-Brainard-Recent-Visitors-1971.-275x364.jpg" alt="Bill Berkson and Joe Brainard, excerpt from Recent Visitors, 1971. Published by Boke Press." width="275" height="364" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/11/Bill-Berkson-Joe-Brainard-Recent-Visitors-1971.-275x364.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/11/Bill-Berkson-Joe-Brainard-Recent-Visitors-1971..jpg 378w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-52806" class="wp-caption-text">Bill Berkson and Joe Brainard, excerpt from Recent Visitors, 1971. Published by Boke Press.</figcaption></figure>
<p>Rubinstein’s essay reminds us that collaborations are often the best at their strangest. He gives the crazy anecdote of Jacques Derrida’s unlikely collaborator the Italian painter Valerio Adami, where the latter imitated former’s handwriting to offer friendship and spark cooperation. Can you imagine someone coming to you with a piece of art wherein they’ve imitated your <em>handwriting</em>? Nonetheless, the inspired “collaboration” turned out a success.</p>
<p>Looking at my favorite example of collaboration from this book, in Adami’s imitations and Derrida’s essay “+R into the bargain,” from the 1975 edition of <em>Derrière le Miroir</em>, Rubinstein comments “It’s hard to think of any other artist-writer encounter where the two participants have become so completely intertwined.” He goes on to mention collaborations and artist’s books of his own, which may be unfamiliar to some readers: with Enrico Baj, Shirley Jaffe, Fabian Marcaccio, and Jane Hammond. Rubinstein worked in a spirit that was “simultaneously collaborative and anonymous, which allowed us to surprise each other throughout the process.” His comment pins down what’s best about collaboration, and goes likewise for a reader.</p>
<p>Dick Higgins is quoted in an essay by Montefalcone, saying, “The hardest thing about the artist’s book is to find the right way to talk about it.” This is kind of a funny insight, because <em>The Art of Collaboration </em>goes to endless lengths to discuss the subject’s intricacies, but it manages to avoid sounding too scholarly or droning, to which we can credit the editors’ mutual eye for stellar contributors.</p>
<p>However easy it is to note the limitations of handling subjects like this, its authors present scenarios and constructions that were often hitherto unpublished, in an engaging, generous manner. The contributors are at their best when offering specific collaborative and artistic illustrations, and of course the examples are contagious. Like the memories of Marcel Proust or the inventions of Raymond Roussel, the coherent examples in <em>The Art of Collaboration</em> seem to produce like and better examples, to make for a read that’s pretty exciting.</p>
<figure id="attachment_52807" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-52807" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Frances-Butler-Alastair-Johnston-Confracti-Mundi-Rudera-1975.-Courtesy-of-Poltroon-Press.-II.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-52807" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Frances-Butler-Alastair-Johnston-Confracti-Mundi-Rudera-1975.-Courtesy-of-Poltroon-Press.-II-275x193.jpg" alt="Frances Butler and Alastair Johnston, excerpt from Confracti Mundi Rudera, 1975. Courtesy of Poltroon Press." width="275" height="193" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/11/Frances-Butler-Alastair-Johnston-Confracti-Mundi-Rudera-1975.-Courtesy-of-Poltroon-Press.-II-275x193.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/11/Frances-Butler-Alastair-Johnston-Confracti-Mundi-Rudera-1975.-Courtesy-of-Poltroon-Press.-II.jpg 550w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-52807" class="wp-caption-text">Frances Butler and Alastair Johnston, excerpt from Confracti Mundi Rudera, 1975. Courtesy of Poltroon Press.</figcaption></figure>
<p><strong>Cristofovici, Anca and Barbara Montefalcone (eds.) <em>The Art of Collaboration: Poets, Artists, Books</em> (Victoria, TX: Cuneiform Press, 2015). ISBN-13: 978-0-9860040-5-6. 198 pages, $40</strong></p>
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		<title>“Not-knowing is most intimate”: Helen Mirra in Conversation with Emmalea Russo</title>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Helen Mirra’s work grounds itself in weaving and walking. The walks and the work are interdependent. In her current exhibition at Galerie Nordenhake (through September 26 in Stockholm), in one room, triangles line the walls, woven from the undyed wool of two black sheep, and in another, folded wool sculptures are on the floor. In the center room are text-image works made during intentional pauses along routes. The artist&#8217;s hand is present in one of the photographs, holding a rock. The text accompanying the image:</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;ONGOING DISTANT ROARS DOWN THROUGH FOREST ON FOOTPATH,</em></p>
<p><em>CLOSED CABIN, EDELWEISS IN LOG PLANTER, COLD SHADE&#8221;</em></p>
<p><em>The following conversation took place in playful and casual bursts over email between Brooklyn and Stockholm, mostly from August 18, 2015 through August 20, 2015.</em></p>
<figure id="attachment_51486" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-51486" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Walking-comma-02-October-Cortina-HM_M-11.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-51486" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Walking-comma-02-October-Cortina-HM_M-11.jpg" alt="Helen Mirra, Walking comma, 02 October, Cortina, 2013. Black and white photograph and text, framed, 28 x 43 cm. Courtesy of the artist and Galerie Nordenhake." width="550" height="367" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/09/Walking-comma-02-October-Cortina-HM_M-11.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/09/Walking-comma-02-October-Cortina-HM_M-11-275x184.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-51486" class="wp-caption-text">Helen Mirra, Walking comma, 02 October, Cortina, 2013. Black and white photograph and text, framed, 28 x 43 cm. Courtesy of the artist and Galerie Nordenhake.</figcaption></figure>
<p><strong>EMMALEA RUSSO: Your work makes me think about the importance of place. Where are you now? What&#8217;s it like there?</strong></p>
<p>HELEN MIRRA: I&#8217;m in Sweden, though only for 10 days. The August light is friendly — clear and soft, and in Tyresta National Park, lake-swimming is bright, cool, and blueberries and mushrooms are rampant.</p>
<p><strong>Much of your work is process-based and comes out of walking and/or being outside </strong><strong>—</strong><strong> a &#8220;paced printmaking&#8221; as you&#8217;ve called it. How did this shift to the outside happen?</strong></p>
<p>For seemingly a long while I had been making work about the idea of the outside, without spending much time there. A series of opportunities shifted me out, maybe starting with a year I had a residency in Berlin, with a studio in the forest on the edge of the city It crystallized during another residency year in Basel, when I was given an office rather than a studio to work in — a problem I resolved by deciding to spend the time mostly walking in the mountains, collecting rocks. That being a total pleasure; I knew I wanted to stay outside, and found a strategy for how to do that. There were a few years when the works were all a kind of printmaking. Then it drifted into other forms.</p>
<figure id="attachment_51488" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-51488" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Waulked-Triangle-HM_M-17.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-51488" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Waulked-Triangle-HM_M-17-275x413.jpg" alt="Helen Mirra, Waulked Triangle, 2015. Undyed wool from two black sheep, strand of wool dyed with cortinarius semisanguineus, cork, cedar, 100 x 111 cm. Courtesy of the artist and Galerie Nordenhake." width="275" height="413" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/09/Waulked-Triangle-HM_M-17-275x413.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/09/Waulked-Triangle-HM_M-17.jpg 333w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-51488" class="wp-caption-text">Helen Mirra, Waulked Triangle, 2015. Undyed wool from two black sheep, strand of wool dyed with cortinarius semisanguineus, cork, cedar, 100 x 111 cm. Courtesy of the artist and Galerie Nordenhake.</figcaption></figure>
<p><strong>How has the work changed — how are the objects different — making work about the idea of the outside versus being actually outside while making/collecting?</strong></p>
<p>Only at first it was collecting — or, better, borrowing, as I returned most of the rocks to the mountains a few years after I had taken them. When walking became central, in its moving-center kind of way, I became less attached to the so-called work, and these days it feels more like it makes itself, and I assist.</p>
<p><strong>I read an interview where you described yourself as a &#8220;careful amateur.&#8221; I think of this term often and I like the vastness of it, especially in a time so concerned with specialization and expertise. How does being a careful amateur fit your work and life? What are the benefits and drawbacks?</strong></p>
<p>That&#8217;s funny: I think now I’d more say a brazen amateur, trying to be less cautious. “Not-knowing is most intimate.” So much more is available when one is not focused-on, not buttoned-up. So-called mistakes are constant, and no cause for distress; the aim is simply for one&#8217;s mistakes to be harmless. Once one is really mostly practicing being a beginner, everything is easier — frustrations still come up but are briefer in duration and easier to set aside, or to flip into curiosity, and approach.</p>
<p><strong>How is a walk in the city different from a walk in the country? Do you have a preference?</strong></p>
<p>It has taken me a while to embrace walking in the city, and it was practicing half-smiling, as described by Thich Nhat Hanh, that has allowed me to. Cities have the disadvantage of concrete and cars, and the advantage of discernible responses to practicing half-smiling. Forests are still the easiest for me: the changing surfaces underfoot, the moving light, the multitude of sounds high and low, near and far, the palpable diversity of species, the distinctions between a wet and a dry forest, in smell and color and the feeling of the air. Mountains are the most eccentric, and object-related.</p>
<figure id="attachment_51483" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-51483" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Folded-waulked-triangle-HM_M-22_2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-51483" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Folded-waulked-triangle-HM_M-22_2-275x184.jpg" alt="Helen Mirra, Folded waulked triangle, 2015. Undyed wool from two black sheep, strand of wool dyed with boletopsis sp., 46 x 50 x 4 cm. Courtesy of the artist and Galerie Nordenhake." width="275" height="184" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/09/Folded-waulked-triangle-HM_M-22_2-275x184.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/09/Folded-waulked-triangle-HM_M-22_2.jpg 550w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-51483" class="wp-caption-text">Helen Mirra, Folded waulked triangle, 2015. Undyed wool from two black sheep, strand of wool dyed with boletopsis sp., 46 x 50 x 4 cm. Courtesy of the artist and Galerie Nordenhake.</figcaption></figure>
<p><strong>Where and how do you prefer to spend your time?</strong></p>
<p>I mostly try to drop preferences about where I am, and just be where I am. Still, I do feel most in my element when walking, especially in unmanaged green space, without any need to get anywhere particular, and while standing weaving, alternating balancing on one foot and the other. There are substantial pleasures of being somewhere I altogether or mostly can&#8217;t understand the language. This is an obvious kind of not-knowing, when there is nothing to do but pay attention to small gestures and expressions. I&#8217;m content in a hammock, particularly the one in our backyard next to where we buried our longtime cat-friend, Maclow.</p>
<p><strong>You have a book called <em>Edge Habitat Materials</em> (2014). I think of walking as an edge practice. How do you think of edges? Who are the artists/people/thinkers who engage edge-space in ways that inform your work, or feel compelling?</strong></p>
<p>I think of the edge being where one thing turns into another, turns inside out, upside down, where synesthesia happens — what happens in translation or communication, looking for and not finding the exactly right word. Of course a classic edge is the one between the familiar and unfamiliar. I think the edge habitat is the territory of André Cadere and Ad Reinhardt, both keystone artists for me. Percussionist Robyn Schulkowsky. Translation work of Basho by Kazuaki Tanahashi and of Chinese Buddhist writings by Bill Porter (<em>The Mountain Poems of Stonehouse</em>, 2014), Ruth Ozeki’s novel <em>A Tale for the Time Being</em> (2013). Forgetting is a great edge.</p>
<figure id="attachment_51487" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-51487" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Walking-commas-27-June-Cape-Breton-HM_M-24_2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-51487" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Walking-commas-27-June-Cape-Breton-HM_M-24_2-275x184.jpg" alt="Helen Mirra, Walking commas, 27 June, Cape Breton, 2014. Black and white photographs and text in seven framed parts, 7 parts, each 43 x 28 cm. Courtesy of the artist and Galerie Nordenhake." width="275" height="184" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/09/Walking-commas-27-June-Cape-Breton-HM_M-24_2-275x184.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/09/Walking-commas-27-June-Cape-Breton-HM_M-24_2.jpg 550w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-51487" class="wp-caption-text">Helen Mirra, Walking commas, 27 June, Cape Breton, 2014. Black and white photographs and text in seven framed parts, 7 parts, each 43 x 28 cm. Courtesy of the artist and Galerie Nordenhake.</figcaption></figure>
<p><strong>You have a solo exhibition that opened August 20th in Stockholm. Could you talk a little about the work in the show and the process of making it?</strong></p>
<p>I’ve been weaving on a large triangle loom, with the hypotenuse set at 180, 215, or 240 cm. Each weaving has wool from two black sheep — changing from one to the other halfway through. Three blacks appear: two from the individual sheep, one of their admixture. These three blacks are barely differentiated one from another but for a delimiting colored strand, dyed from foraged mushrooms, drawn through each work. Each inexact triangle is doubled over a cedar support, or folded into an even smaller floor sculpture.</p>
<p><strong>In the fall, I saw your show in New York at Peter Freeman and found myself getting very close to those woven triangles</strong><strong>,</strong><strong> noticing the different strands of color. Those invited very close looking. I feel this way about much of your work. For example the <em>Quarry</em></strong> <strong>works (2007) — small sculptures made with folded pieces of clothing, each with a rock perched on top. I find that these and the triangles ask for a certain kind of hovering and closeness — certainly evoking Dogen&#8217;s “not-knowing is most intimate.” Can you say more about the connection between not-knowing and your practice? Zen teachings and your practice?</strong></p>
<figure id="attachment_51484" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-51484" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Installation-view_1.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-51484" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Installation-view_1-275x184.jpg" alt="Installation view, &quot;Helen Mirra&quot; at Galerie Nodenhake, 2015. Courtesy of the artist and Galerie Nordenhake." width="275" height="184" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/09/Installation-view_1-275x184.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/09/Installation-view_1.jpg 550w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-51484" class="wp-caption-text">Installation view, &#8220;Helen Mirra&#8221; at Galerie Nodenhake, 2015. Courtesy of the artist and Galerie Nordenhake.</figcaption></figure>
<p>Hovering is a good word — the aerial equivalent of tender-footed curiosity — which is one of the ways I think of not-knowing. Like the outdoors and walking going from the theoretical to the actual, it has been the same for me with so-called secular Buddhist philosophy — while I was intellectually engaged with it when I was younger, now I&#8217;d say I&#8217;m an adherent.</p>
<p><strong>The &#8220;aerial equivalent of tender-footed curiosity&#8221; is lovely. It makes me wonder about the ways you&#8217;re encountering the outside </strong><strong>—</strong><strong> the &#8220;unmanaged green space&#8221; </strong><strong>—</strong><strong> and how that might relate to the ways in which viewers encounter your work in a gallery. </strong></p>
<p>It’s like walking all day in rain and then coming inside and changing into dry clothes, or sleeping and awake, or vice versa. A gallery is a temporary minimalist habitat, and sort of like an animal shelter. I&#8217;m largely in agreement with Rémy Zaugg&#8217;s charge for ideal exhibition spaces (his 1986 lecture was recently translated and published: <em>The Art Museum of My Dreams, or, A Place for the Work and the Human Being</em>) and it is a reminder of why, how, they can be worthwhile. Maybe an examined life is best led outdoors, constantly reminded of its interdependence, and the exhibition space is a useful temporary fiction of autonomy for artworks, for another kind of attending to.</p>
<p><strong>What&#8217;s next?</strong></p>
<p>Referential weaving experiments, for a pair of shows in Berlin in January with Allyson Strafella. In one space we will show works of ours from 15 to 20 years ago, that we think of as connecting from there to where we are now. In the other, we will show new works, which we consider as reiterations or paraphrases, replies or responses, to each other’s particular existing works (which might or might not be included in the early-work show). Allyson is making typewriter drawings, and I’m making tapestry weavings. We both have very particular limitations, in color for instance, because of the materials we are using (typewriter ink, carbon paper/un-dyed and plant- or mushroom-dyed yarns), and size by the respective widths of typewriter platens and loom warps.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Artist Felix Bernstein describes to curator Jay Sanders his affair with the work and ghost of Jack Smith.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The Whitney Museum’s performance curator Jay Sanders talks to Brooklyn based artist and writer Felix Bernstein about his early relationship with the temperamental and visionary queer New York artist (photographer, sculpture, filmmaker, performer) Jack Smith. Sanders surveyed the work of Smith and his contemporaries in </em>Rituals of Rented Island<em>, and Bernstein is preparing for a forthcoming performance at the Whitney, </em>Bieber Bathos Elegy, <em>and</em> <em>the specter of Smith looms large. But do the iconographic &amp; iconoclastic images of Smith that haunt the posthumous documentaries and retrospectives capture the true spirit of the artist? Or is the artist’s spirit rather pricklier?</em></p>
<figure id="attachment_51391" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-51391" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/1.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-51391" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/1.jpg" alt="Jay Sanders in conversation with Felix Bernstein. Courtesy of Felix Bernstein." width="550" height="414" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/09/1.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/09/1-275x207.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-51391" class="wp-caption-text">Jay Sanders in conversation with Felix Bernstein. Courtesy of Felix Bernstein.</figcaption></figure>
<p><strong>JAY SANDERS: When did you meet Jack?</strong></p>
<p>FELIX BERNSTEIN: Well, I was really young, and Jack, at the end, nobody really liked him, I would just hang out on the lower east side, I was a poser, I wasn&#8217;t an artist, I wasn&#8217;t really interested in culture, I just found the lower east side a compelling place to experience things.</p>
<p>I would pick up guys, I would cruise, basically one of the guys was Jack, and he had all these punk neo-Nazis hanging around with him. Ludlum was over, and the Club Kids were a mess, and Jack was really generous, and I wouldn&#8217;t be an artist or anything if it weren&#8217;t for his generosity. He would tell me to meet him for a rendezvous or whatever, but he wouldn&#8217;t even show up. But that taught me a lot. Him <em>not</em> giving me attention made me show up in wilder and wilder costumes. I was called a child prostitute, but I wouldn&#8217;t think of myself as that, but as a rebel. We had a lot of encounters where we wouldn&#8217;t talk. He would give just little statements, not positive or negative, that just pushed me along. I think of that as generous. Pina Bausch, or someone like that, is very hands on, obviously…. Jack wasn&#8217;t even there. It was a teaching in absence.</p>
<p><strong><em>Was it difficult?</em></strong></p>
<p>Yeah cause you&#8217;re put on the spot and there’s no one there for you. His father died when he was very young, in a sea accident.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to say I came into my own because he didn&#8217;t want me to come into my own. I wasn&#8217;t self-possessed; I didn&#8217;t have a self, and he took that material and used it.</p>
<p>Anyone who evaluated him was ascribed as a monster, patriarchal, crazy. I grew up in a world where there was no evaluation. You can imagine that having a teacher like that wasn&#8217;t an easy situation. He wasn’t evaluated and didn’t evaluate me, but I learned from him to evaluate others. But nowadays, German art magazines pay me to say the sort of stuff Jack Smith said. They love to see me bite the hand that feeds.</p>
<figure id="attachment_51392" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-51392" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-51392" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/2-275x205.jpg" alt="Jay Sanders in conversation with Felix Bernstein. Courtesy of Felix Bernstein." width="275" height="205" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/09/2-275x205.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/09/2.jpg 550w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-51392" class="wp-caption-text">Jay Sanders in conversation with Felix Bernstein. Courtesy of Felix Bernstein.</figcaption></figure>
<p><strong>What about ideas? Did he have any ideas?</strong></p>
<p>His ideas were already out there, and people used them all the time. When I was on St. Marks Place I was bored, cause everyone wanted to be Jack, and I didn&#8217;t. I didn&#8217;t want anything to do with him, and I think that’s why he found me.</p>
<p>I had no diva worship for Jack, and I don&#8217;t like Jack and I don&#8217;t like who you think he is. To put it cutely, <em>You Don&#8217;t Know Jack</em>, and that was the space of our interaction. I’m not gonna dress up as a Flaming Creature and dance around Barbara Gladstone gallery or at a Pride parade. He would hate that. In fact, I’ll let you know: he hates you, if you do that. And if you say performance art is subversive in a museum, he’ll kill you.</p>
<p><strong>Did you ever have sex? </strong></p>
<p>The phallus is an organ belonging to the father, and Jack’s father was dead but he didn&#8217;t care. Jack had no phallus: he hated phallic men. He just had a flaccid penis, hanging around all the time. That’s what’s so “obscene” about his film <em>Flaming Creatures</em>; there are no erections.</p>
<p>Jack was at that weird time: the birth of pop art. Like Warhol, he didn&#8217;t want to be a subject; he wanted to be an object. But unlike Warhol, he didn&#8217;t want to be a commodity, even though he loved the world of commodities—Maria Montez and the starlets. But Smith liked being the pivot between subject and object. He couldn’t settle on one or the other, and it drove him. Most of us pick. He wouldn’t. He was neither Batman, the hero, the free agent or Dracula, the bloodsucking villain (he played both in his one filmic collaboration with Warhol)—it’s clear that Warhol chose to be a vampire, an undead object who fed off of the lives of subjects.</p>
<figure id="attachment_51393" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-51393" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/3.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-51393" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/3-275x207.jpg" alt="Jay Sanders in conversation with Felix Bernstein. Courtesy of Felix Bernstein." width="275" height="207" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/09/3-275x207.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/09/3.jpg 550w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-51393" class="wp-caption-text">Jay Sanders in conversation with Felix Bernstein. Courtesy of Felix Bernstein.</figcaption></figure>
<p><strong>What did he invent?</strong></p>
<p>Everyone in Greek Theatre knows what this look means. He didn’t splinter the disclosure of thinking but some people think he did. But he wasn’t expressive. It wasn’t about the outpouring of emotion. The beauty of Smith’s <em>Hamlet</em> is that emotion is rendered through objective correlatives, and it connects you to the subject through a skewed view. You directly feel it through indirection, as T.S. Eliot has explained of Shakespeare’s Hamlet.</p>
<p>Nowadays all intimacy is delayed through parody and irony…but for Smith there was no deferral. The indirect was always already directed at the viewer. It was an instantaneous transferal through spontaneous yet effective bodily hieroglyphics.</p>
<p>Famed experimental artist Tony Conrad was originally Smith’s intern. Of course, Conrad is a straight, minimal artist. Conrad was using drugs to control his emotions: to go from happy to sad, the two faces of theatre—all very simple, controlled, framed. Jack Smith, Conrad thought, was so corny and emotional. And this helped him reduce emotions to stark symbols. Maximalism became minimalism. In turn, it is true that Smith invented minimalism. And he turned away from Kant’s subjectivism towards a new paradigm: the subject-as-object or the subject as thing.<em> </em></p>
<p><strong>For someone like Jack Smith, what’s the boundary of an artwork?</strong></p>
<p>To be or not to be, to be art or not to be art, hard or soft dick, wavering, stuck in wavering, because phallic authority is dead. That lack of resolution became what others manufactured in their attempts to claim his legacy. Even Warhol.</p>
<p>Jack Smith didn&#8217;t hate all proper names. He always hated the one, who led the chain gang of signification: Jonas Mekas, that was the master signifier he abhorred. Smith was always playing the crazy polymorphous signified. That was Jack Smith, or Jack Smith was that <em>thing</em>. Mekas uses his subjectivity to interpellate and determine, Smith was always the interpellated thing. Young performance artists and queer academics always say with a smile, “that was Jack Smith.” But perhaps the <em>“that”</em> that was Jack is really just the stab in the back caused by the reclusive and elusive referent. So it is not wrong when everyone says “that was Jack Smith,” the one who sent me that strange and hostile letter. <em>That</em> was him since he was always that thing, and we were always determining him through such anecdotes.</p>
<figure id="attachment_51394" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-51394" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/4.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-51394" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/4-275x207.jpg" alt="Jay Sanders in conversation with Felix Bernstein. Courtesy of Felix Bernstein." width="275" height="207" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/09/4-275x207.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/09/4.jpg 550w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-51394" class="wp-caption-text">Jay Sanders in conversation with Felix Bernstein. Courtesy of Felix Bernstein.</figcaption></figure>
<p><strong>We&#8217;ve talked about the reptilian technique. How did Jack Smith convey his own technique?</strong></p>
<p>Interns became baroque apprentices. You can never master baroque art but you can at least be told about it. The student can never be more than a subjective creature; only he was ever really an object; and so he remained better than us. We would decorate or be “flaming,” he would watch us then morph based on what he saw us seeing. Like Warhol, he was a voyeur not a “flaming” participant, like the modern gay/queer artist. But unlike Warhol, he would become what he watched the watcher watching. Thus, Warhol’s cruel glare was more than just a subjective standpoint for Smith—but rather, it was also an internalized compass for designing selfhood.</p>
<p><strong>What do you think about his legacy?</strong></p>
<p>John Waters said about Jack Smith: that he bit the hand that fed him. He’s wrong. Jack Smith was never even fed. Rather, he fed the hand that bit him. Not to over-emphasize the point, but Jack Smith&#8217;s dad died at sea. He was untreatable and unfeedable, because you cannot treat someone who does not accept, as an ontological premise, the supplement of health—he was the living embodiment of what Richard Foreman termed the <em>Ontological Hysterical Theater</em>.</p>
<p><strong>Can Smith be anything more than a dodo? What does Jack Smith mean for productivity?</strong></p>
<p>Plenty of people will say, Jack Smith is a real artist, but <em>Rent</em> the musical is superficial. They are wrong. Gay Marriage is neoliberal fantasy and so is <em>Rent</em> but your critique is just as neoliberal. Protesting gentrification <em>is</em> gentrification. Jack wouldn&#8217;t have cared about <em>Rent</em>: it would&#8217;ve been as good as anything else. Idina Menzel might even be <em>our</em> Maria Montez.</p>
<p>Funny story—a budding hip gay artist blocked me from all his social media accounts after I wrote a critique of his safe aesthetics—an hour later, he shared a glossy <em>ArtForum</em> essay that praised Jack Smith for being an aggressive trailblazer. “Never conform,” he tweeted as a caption. Jack Smith is rolling in his grave. Or anyway, Jack Smith is the thing that rolls in a grave.</p>
<figure id="attachment_51395" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-51395" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/5.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-51395" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/5-275x207.jpg" alt="Jay Sanders in conversation with Felix Bernstein. Courtesy of Felix Bernstein." width="275" height="207" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/09/5-275x207.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/09/5.jpg 550w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-51395" class="wp-caption-text">Jay Sanders in conversation with Felix Bernstein. Courtesy of Felix Bernstein.</figcaption></figure>
<p>Bieber Bathos Elegy <em>will be presented in the Whitney Museum&#8217;s theater on January 15th &amp; 16th at 9PM. Advanced tickets will be available. More information is forthcoming.</em></p>
<p>(Transcription by Julien Nguyun)</p>
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