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		<title>A Multifaceted Career: Raul Guerrero talks with Mary Jones</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>The Californian artist is showing early work at Ortuzar Projects</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Raul Guerrero at Ortuzar Projects</strong><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-weight: 400;">June 21 to July 27, 2018</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br />
</span><span style="font-weight: 400;">9 White Street, between  Sixth Avenue and West Broadway</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br />
</span><span style="font-weight: 400;">New York City, ortuzarprojects.com</span></p>
<figure id="attachment_79464" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-79464" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/mujer-raul.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-79464"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-79464" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/mujer-raul.jpg" alt="Raul Guerrero, La Mujer del Puerto,1993. Oil on linen, 80 x 108 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ortuzar Projects." width="550" height="412" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/mujer-raul.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/mujer-raul-275x205.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-79464" class="wp-caption-text">Raul Guerrero, La Mujer del Puerto,1993. Oil on linen, 80 x 108 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ortuzar Projects.</figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Since “Pacific Standard Time,” the comprehensive survey of art in Southern California from 1945 to 1980, organized in 2011 at multiple venues, documentation of artists from that innovative and experimental period has been on reset. The early 1970s, in particular, were a watershed, as young artists emerging in the wake of the game-changing 1963 Duchamp retrospective at the Pasadena Art Museum, turned to conceptual and performative practices the boundaries between them blurred. Some, like Ed Ruscha, extended the notion of object making into specific sites of investigation, the surreal nature of Southern California itself chief among them. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Raul Guerrero was born in 1945 in Brawley, California, and is currently living and working in San Diego. He was an active part of the groundbreaking scene of the early 1970s, and has continued in the decades since to contextualize the hybrid culture of Southern California.</span></p>
<figure id="attachment_79465" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-79465" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/mask-raul.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-79465"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-79465" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/mask-raul-275x413.jpg" alt="Raul Guerrero, The Rotating Yaqui Mask, 1973. Found object, painted wood, horn, with electric motor and foot pedal 18 x 20 x 15 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ortuzar Projects." width="275" height="413" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/mask-raul-275x413.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/mask-raul.jpg 333w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-79465" class="wp-caption-text">Raul Guerrero, The Rotating Yaqui Mask, 1973. Found object, painted wood, horn, with electric motor and foot pedal 18 x 20 x 15 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ortuzar Projects.</figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">In his second solo show in New York City, and his first at Ortuzar Projects, we’re introduced to over 20 years of Guerrero’s ongoing trajectory, from 1971 through 1993. That he began his career at a unique moment in Southern California isn’t lost on Guerrero—this is the time of Chris Burden’s most notorious performances, the 1972 Womanhouse of Judy Chicago and Miriam Schapiro, and the work of David Hammons, Bruce Nauman, John Baldessari (his first teacher) and Doug Wheeler. Al Ruppersberg, Jack Goldstein, Vija Celmins, William Leavitt, and James Welling were all Guerrero’s peers. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">In conversation, Guerrero often uses the phrase, “by coincidence,” usually in appreciation of the fortuitous events that marked his journey and aesthetic. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">“Since I was a child, every summer my family and I would travel north and work as migrant workers,” he says. “All the accoutrements we’d need for the summer, the pots and pans, everything, were loaded into the back of my father’s flatbed truck. As we’d go over the 101 Freeway, from the back of the truck I’d gaze out at the Capitol Building, and think, ‘Wow, this is Hollywood.’  We’d stop and cook our meals right by the side of the road, and join the encampments by the Merced River, and suddenly there’d be so many other people, Anglos, Oakies, African Americans, gypsies, Mexicans, and Mexicans from Texas. My aspiring family eventually became middle class, and at 16, I’m lying under a vineyard, wondering, what I’m going to do with my life? I hitchhike down to Mexico City and 4 years later I’m in Chouinard Art Institute. On the first day of class, I found myself sitting next to Jack Goldstein. Can you imagine? He looked just like Paul McCartney, and we became close friends.” </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">At the Chouinard, which later became part of CalArts, Guerrero understood Duchamp’s work instantly and found it liberating, the essential foundation of his aesthetic philosophy. Not only was he drawn to the concept of the assisted readymade, but also to the subliminal power of a single, iconic object or image. This, for Guerrero, resonated with another influence—Carl Jung’s theories of archetype and the collective unconscious.       </span></p>
<figure id="attachment_79467" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-79467" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/kettle-raul.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-79467"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-79467" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/kettle-raul-275x279.jpg" alt="Raul Guerrero, Teapot, 1971. Watercolor on paper, 4 x 4 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ortuzar Projects." width="275" height="279" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/kettle-raul-275x279.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/kettle-raul-71x71.jpg 71w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/kettle-raul-32x32.jpg 32w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/kettle-raul-64x64.jpg 64w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/kettle-raul-96x96.jpg 96w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/kettle-raul.jpg 493w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-79467" class="wp-caption-text">Raul Guerrero, Teapot, 1971. Watercolor on paper, 4 x 4 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ortuzar Projects.</figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Among the 46 pieces in the exhibition, the earliest are Guerrero’s Moroccan watercolors from 1971, shown here for the first time. These come with the intriguing backstory that sparked their creation. At the suggestion of his friend and mentor Ed Kienholz, Guerrero sold all his belongings and headed to Europe. “By coincidence” (again) he managed to meet everyone right away: sitting next to Francis Bacon at dinner in London, he meets Lee Miller, (Man Ray’s model and muse), and meets his idol, Richard Hamilton, and this is just the first week. He ventures down to Morocco, and soon was living on a few dollars a day in El Ksar Seghir, a small village outside of Tangier. The series of watercolors are intimately sized, as they were created to be postcards for his girlfriend. He shares the dazzling ambiance in beautifully patterned, detailed, and hallucinogenic pieces in which teapots, tiles and other domestic objects with their exotic symbols and arabesques vibrate in talismanic bands of energy—reverberations from the local hashish.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">After that summer, Guerrero returned to LA blazing. In just a few years he made significant bodies of work in photography, sculpture, performance, installation, and video. Each of these directions could have fuelled a lifetime of work. Guerrero is a gifted and emotional photographer, as evidenced by his California Sur Photographs from 1972. (He cites the Mexican movies of Luis Bunuel as a childhood passion.) These photos were his personal documentation of a two week road trip through Baja with artist friends. The compositions are effortless. Throughout his photographs, Guerrero’s utilization of light is mysterious, otherworldly, and exquisitely tender, as in the ethereal portrait, for example, of his elderly grandmother, who seems to hover between the tangible and spiritual realms. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Another standout in his multifaceted career is the assisted readymade: </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Rotating Yaqui Mask</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">(1974) is a seminal, declarative work. Guerrero describes this piece as a formal exploration of, and direct response to, Duchamp’s “Rotating Glass Disc,” but the personal choice of the Yaqui mask can be unsettling. For me, the psychic energy released from the mechanized spinning of this ritual object multiplies seismically in a fearsome way, the context feeling both taboo and dangerously displaced. Similarly, in his movie “Primitive Act” of 1974, Guerrero is squatting and naked among rocks and shrubs, reenacting the primitive discovery of fire.</span></p>
<figure id="attachment_79468" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-79468" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/granny-raul.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-79468"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-79468" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/granny-raul-275x276.jpg" alt="Raul Guerrero, Baja 03B, 1972 (printed 2016). Gelatin Silver print, 8 x 8 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ortuzar Projects." width="275" height="276" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/granny-raul-275x276.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/granny-raul-71x71.jpg 71w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/granny-raul-32x32.jpg 32w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/granny-raul-64x64.jpg 64w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/granny-raul-96x96.jpg 96w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/granny-raul-128x128.jpg 128w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/granny-raul-150x150.jpg 150w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/granny-raul.jpg 498w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-79468" class="wp-caption-text">Raul Guerrero, Baja 03B, 1972 (printed 2016). Gelatin Silver print, 8 x 8 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ortuzar Projects.</figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Seeking a more subjective, and pliable medium, since the 1980s Guerrero has focused on oil painting. Among those on view are four selections from his Oaxaca series from 1984 plus </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">La Mujer of the Puerto</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> from 1993. The Oaxaca series was done on location and, like the Moroccan watercolors, he entrenches himself in the history and culture of this particular place. Guerrero treats stylistic representation like a local language and adapts a flat colonialist style relevant to his theme. Like many of the painters he admires —Walter Robinson, Neil Jenney, Lisa Yuskavage and Alida Cervantes — Guerrero opens the door to Kitsch and pulp desire. As if he is writing a detective novel, heembeds layers and clues in his post-conceptual approach. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Much of Guerrero’s process involves honing his attention and allowing his emotional responses to connect him not only to his own history but to that of the culture at large.He interprets his painting </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Vista de Bonampak</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> (1984) for me:  “I want to capture not only what represents the place for me, but also a critique of the culture, so after visiting the archeological ruins of  Bonampak, once a Mayan city near Chiapas, Mexico, I imagined a jaguar, coveted within Mayan culture for ferocity and strength, stumbling on the scene of the murals, depicting men dressed as jaguar knights, in jaguar skins, capturing enemies for sacrificial purposes who are also dressed in jaguar skins.  Although I might question who is the most vicious creature in the jungle, I also want to make paintings that are interesting and beautiful. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">“There’s a lot that can be said about the brutality of the system, especially with our current president, but I prefer images that don’t delve into it overtly.”</span></p>
<figure id="attachment_79470" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-79470" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/vista-raul.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-79470"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-79470" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/vista-raul-275x403.jpg" alt="Raul Guerrero, Vista de Bonampak, 1984. Oil on canvas 54.5 x 37.25 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ortuzar Projects." width="275" height="403" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/vista-raul-275x403.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/07/vista-raul.jpg 341w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-79470" class="wp-caption-text">Raul Guerrero, Vista de Bonampak, 1984. Oil on canvas 54.5 x 37.25 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Ortuzar Projects.</figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">After 40 years of structured study of North America, Guerrero has a new theory:  “Because we&#8217;re living on a continent that was occupied by indigenous people through millennia, and their voice has been suppressed, their culture, especially in the artworld, is changing things subliminally by gaining a voice though artists, one way or another. It&#8217;s a philosophical and cultural virus that&#8217;s spreading. For example, John Baldessari grew up in National City, like I did, ten miles from the border. Now, here’s a major artist, he goes to Mexico and is exposed to all this stuff that you see coming out of Mexico that’s really interesting, but in fact it’s all indigenous culture. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">“If you dig tacos, you’re being affected by an indigenous culture. You&#8217;re consuming part of that philosophical virus. It’s full of indigenous material: tortilla, beans, corn, the way it’s prepared—it changes the way you see your reality. What that reality is I’m not sure, but somehow that essence, that philosophy, is expressing itself nonetheless into the culture unbeknownst to us. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">“In this encounter between culture and things,” he says, “your sense of reality is shifted. Artists like Baldessari, who’s making art about culture on a large scale, has had his view shifted, and then he turned all these other guys on at CalArts. Bizarre, right?” </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Guerrera is planning a trip to the Amazon sometime later this year. </span></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Ancestors at Gagosian thru' June 16</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>Jenny Saville: Ancestors</em>, at Gagosian Gallery, New York, on view through June 16, is the British artist&#8217;s first solo presentation in New York since 2011. She is also, concurrently, the subject of a survey exhibition at the Scottish National Gallery of Modern Art, Edinburgh. </strong></p>
<figure style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/fates-install.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-78778"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-78778 size-full" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/fates-install.jpg" alt="Installation view: Jenny Saville: Ancestors, Gagosian Gallery, New York 2018, showing, left to right, Fate 3, Fate 1, Fate 1, all 2018. Photography by Rob McKeever. Courtesy Gagosian." width="550" height="407" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/fates-install.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/fates-install-275x205.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /></a><figcaption class="wp-caption-text">Installation view: Jenny Saville: Ancestors, Gagosian Gallery, New York 2018, showing, left to right, Fate 3, Fate 1, Fate 1, all 2018. Photography by Rob McKeever. Courtesy Gagosian.</figcaption></figure>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Julie, on Facebook you described a painting by Jenny Saville on view in her show at Gagosian Gallery as &#8220;the most beautiful painting I’ve seen in a long time&#8221; and 150 friends liked or loved that post. In the comments section, Dennis Kardon wrote: &#8220;You and David Cohen are going to have an interesting discussion,&#8221; referencing no doubt my <a href="https://www.artcritical.com/2011/10/06/jenny-saville/">highly critical</a> artcritical review of her last New York show. Dennis wrote <a href="http://www.artnet.com/magazine_pre2000/features/kardon/kardon10-26-99.asp" target="_blank">enthusiastically</a> about her work in 1999 (it was his first piece of published art criticism, and was edited by Walter Robinson.) What is it about her new show, Julie that, as you put it on Facebook, &#8220;knocked you out&#8221;?</p>
<p>JULIE HEFFERNAN<br />
Up to this point I hadn’t been much of a fan of Jenny Saville’s. She’d cornered the market on paint-as-flesh, no doubt, but I never felt like she cared much about what was inside the figures she was painting, or showed us anything deeper than bloated, mottled and dejected skin. But several paintings in her latest Gagosian show blew those notions away and stopped me in my tracks. Her <em>Fate</em> paintings (<em>Fate 1, Fate 2 </em>and <em>Fate 3</em>) went somewhere I didn’t expect – melding abstraction and figuration in a way that furthered the scope of both, and bringing black bodies and white bodies together into new-fangled icons through muscular paint and sheer pictorial power. To my mind these paintings raised the bar on figuration, and that’s rare.</p>
<p>Painterly stylishness had limited Saville up until now, but in these <em>Fate</em> paintings I’m not as conscious of her style as much as her intelligent pictorial choices that give me the sense that she’s gone beyond realism (or expressionism) towards the iconic. Where before she would mask out areas in order to break up the integrity of the figure, and thereby sidestep realism, now she’s using those masked areas to complicate the figure’s integrity, suggest the mess inside, or alternatively provide it with extra appendages to increase its capacity to express multiplicities.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
Maybe because of the peculiar emptiness the ugliness in earlier work seemed manipulative. Many of these new paintings stopped me in my tracks! The scale, color, content and play with abstraction are exciting and original. They refer to so many different things but they&#8217;re entirely their own.</p>
<p>This is the first show of hers, I should say, that I&#8217;ve had a positive response to. I&#8217;m a big fan of abject beauty: I taught myself to paint by viewing cadavers in the medical school and a boyfriend even moved out on me because of the pig&#8217;s head (and a few other specimens) in the freezer. I adore Soutine’s still life paintings, Rembrandt&#8217;s sides of beef and Lucian Freud&#8217;s paintings of Lee Bowery. While I was impressed by the scale, and of course the paint handling, her previous paintings for the most part have seemed ugly in a calculated or gratuitous way.</p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON<br />
Almost twenty years ago I wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Saville simply overwhelms the viewer with paint as flesh. The specificity of her subject matter raises issues about the nature of spontaneity and control in painting. And because these bodies are painted, and therefore inhabited by the artist&#8230;they don’t have the distanced quality of the photographic work of other artists who have dealt with body image and gender issues.</p></blockquote>
<p>As her career progressed however, I became gradually disenchanted with what I perceived as strategic employment of painting conventions that started to feel a bit rote, and an increase in scale for the sake of filling up a mega space. David’s review, though a bit scathing, generally captured my feeling about what had occurred in her work.</p>
<p>My remark about the discussion was a reference to a chance encounter with David and Barry in Chelsea after first seeing the current show. My immediate reaction was that she had redeemed herself a lot, and I had taken a lot of detail shots of memorable moments. But David was so negative it made me reconsider, until at least, he compared her unfavorably to Tracey Emin at Frieze which I am pretty sure was an unmitigated waste of perfectly nice white walls.</p>
<figure id="attachment_78779" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-78779" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Vis-and-Ramin-I..jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-78779"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-78779" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Vis-and-Ramin-I..jpg" alt="Jenny Saville, Vis and Ramin I, 2018. Oil on canvas, 98-1/2 x 137-7/8 inches. © Jenny Saville. Photography by Mike Bruce. Courtesy Gagosian." width="550" height="392" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/Vis-and-Ramin-I..jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/Vis-and-Ramin-I.-275x196.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-78779" class="wp-caption-text">Jenny Saville, Vis and Ramin I, 2018. Oil on canvas, 98-1/2 x 137-7/8 inches. © Jenny Saville. Photography by Mike Bruce. Courtesy Gagosian.</figcaption></figure>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
If it’s beauty, it’s beauty of an abject kind, which has always been her thing — heavy models, grossly presented. A rather ugly beauty, I would say. Lisa Yuskavage is a good pendant here. Beauty also lies in her mastery of an academic drawing style, which recalls a 19th-century formula in service to a classical ideal. Those are her avant-garde bona fides, the rehabilitation of an essentially conservative technique for subjects of contemporary relevance, notably the body and gender identity.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
I&#8217;m the opposite of Julie and Brenda in that I&#8217;ve always been interested in Saville&#8217;s paintings, and sometimes like them quite a lot. People always used to compare her to Freud, and I understand why, but to me that was the wrong analogy. She was more like Anselm Kiefer—I mean the really good Kiefer, the one from the 1980s. The body was to her as the landscape to him. I didn&#8217;t find his wounded landscapes ugly, nor the tormented paint by which he depicted it, and I never found her abject bodies or her storms of paint ugly either—quite the opposite. But I didn&#8217;t care for these new paintings at all. I don&#8217;t like the self-evident &#8220;painting of collage&#8221; trope, and she seems to be drawing in a more conventional way as well as being more restrained in her paint handling.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
It’s interesting that you compare her earlier work to Kiefer. I agree, they are more Kiefer than Freud because her figures have little physiological content. They were all surface, same as Kiefer. And same as Kiefer, you think they’re about something else and then discover that they’re equally empty.</p>
<p>JULIE HEFFERNAN<br />
It might be worthwhile to keep the discussion to the three <em>Fate</em> paintings since I agree with you all about the other works in the show, but thought those three <em>Fates</em> were of a different order altogether.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
A generous reading is a good thing. It reminds me of Richard Prince’s goofy brilliant combos of de Kooning and gay porn.</p>
<p>Julie is certainly right about the paint-as-flesh thing, but sections of these works were basically deft contour drawings filled in with even defter Ab-Ex-style brushwork. Interesting, but a bit silly?</p>
<p>I didn’t even notice the race thing, since I was only there a few minutes, and the overwhelming impression is pink. (An artist works for a year on a show; a critic walks in and after two minutes says “it sucks.”) But I’ll go right now to take another look. What about her pseudo-cubist figures? There’s a new move.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
I went back yesterday for a proper visit after coming to a comparable conclusion to Walter from two minutes at the opening reception, and I&#8217;m afraid that closer examination and doing my utmost to sit openly with the work has not led to epiphanies. I find these to be disingenuous academic machines. Look, there is no question that Jenny Saville has exceptional technical abilities and genuine intellectual ambition, but I suspect that the adulation that has followed from these rare qualities has been corrupting. Her early work married painting chops and youthful feminist indignation to produce startling, if shallow, results, but she has &#8220;matured&#8221; into a shameless crowd pleaser. I can&#8217;t believe such sensitive individuals as the artists here aren&#8217;t seeing the wood for the trees. Photos have been projected onto canvases and lines traced; paint has been slathered in gratuitous faux-expressivity to generate effects; images have been chopped up to connote visual deconstruction. But there&#8217;s no real drawing, painting or collage going on in these concoctions.</p>
<p>JULIE HEFFERNAN<br />
Well as a painter I was respectfully floored by that piling up of paint, plus wiping, scraping, knowing when to stop and when to pile more on.  That&#8217;s not easy!  In her earlier work I knew exactly how she made those paintings, but this new work is so layered and the decisions about when to stop and when to keep going so seamlessly articulated &#8211; that&#8217;s amazing painting.  You try it!</p>
<p>As for David’s contention that there is no real drawing going on &#8211; look at <em>Fate 2</em>  and the deft placement of that thick blue line forming a square right in the middle of the figure, and what it’s doing to cause the whole assortment of body parts to pivot around it. It’s doing so many things: It’s the thing that allows the icon to be both passive and active, asserting the power of that body to suggest a kind of centrifugal movement of becoming, while also exuding a marmoreal presence; it’s also reinforcing the presence of the left breast, now lost to scraping and turned into negative space. That one squiggly line comes totally out of the blue (as it were) but is doing so much to power up the form and reinforce this idea of multiplicities.</p>
<p>Regarding the black and white bodies: Yes, she pulled it off! She deftly insinuated a white body into (onto) a black body, and vice versa. In one, the white body is in the middle of black limbs, (all the heads are either of black women or, in the case of <em>Fate 3</em>, from an African sculpture of a woman) but not overwhelming them or dominating in any way—they’re both equally present in the form. In <em>Fate 3</em> the &#8220;limbs&#8221; are more like weird appendages that take the form to places I&#8217;ve never seen Saville go. She’s forged an icon of a black and white Shiva-like woman with the many limbs. Glorious!</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
I feel you David but is it really fair to presume success has gone to her head? Artists are always having things in their heads, and success breeds confidence and ambition, etc. And what is “real” painting, drawing and collage, and why privilege it? Collage is giving new energy to abstract painting at the moment, why not figuration?</p>
<figure id="attachment_78780" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-78780" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/install-pieta-nochlin-thread.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-78780"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-78780 size-full" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/install-pieta-nochlin-thread.jpg" alt="Installation view: Jenny Saville: Ancestors, Gagosian Gallery, New York 2018, showing, left to right, Blue Pieta, 2018; Chapter (For Linda Nocholin), 2016-2018; Thread, 2017-2018. Photography by Rob McKeever. Courtesy Gagosian." width="550" height="290" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/install-pieta-nochlin-thread.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/install-pieta-nochlin-thread-275x145.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-78780" class="wp-caption-text">Installation view: Jenny Saville: Ancestors, Gagosian Gallery, New York 2018, showing, left to right, Blue Pieta, 2018; Chapter (For Linda Nocholin), 2016-2018; Thread, 2017-2018. Photography by Rob McKeever. Courtesy Gagosian.</figcaption></figure>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
You admire her bravura technique, but what is the project at the service of which she puts it? To me, the equations she makes between different kinds of representation and different kinds of abstraction, as well as between different kinds of imagery, seem pretty flat and familiar.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
That’s such a weird question, Barry, “what is the project at the service of which she puts it?” Put the question aside and approach them more visually. There’s a lot of pleasure to be had and for that might to enough.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Pleasure is never enough.</p>
<p>Julie, I don&#8217;t doubt that the pyrotechnics here take bravura and acumen to pull off. But really, we at Gagosian Gallery looking at massive canvases by an international art star for sale at top dollar; it is the painterly equivalent of a Hollywood blockbuster. If the movie sucks we don&#8217;t applaud the music and special effects.</p>
<p>Walter is right that one should indeed use any device that works if the result is a powerful image. But “real drawing” is where the lines are put down with purpose, where the energy is one of inquiry and/or assuredness. Her line is gimmicky. She generates false <em>pentimenti </em>to make the drawing look &#8220;old masterly&#8221;. Her paint slathering is like pushing a button in Photoshop marked &#8220;AbEx&#8221;; they don&#8217;t come out of the existential maelstrom of creativity. Her collage is saying, we are made up of this and that; real collage is about opening oneself up to the marvelous and the unknown.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
It&#8217;s interesting that you and I, David—the two non-practitioners here—are much less sympathetic to these paintings than the painters here. That&#8217;s something that makes me think I should reconsider my response— though I still don&#8217;t know how!</p>
<p>SUZY SPENCE<br />
It’s interesting to me that in her piece dedicated to Linda Nochlin is sort of squirreled away in the back, when Nochlin’s ideas should operate as the catalyst for the entire show. Ancestors, yes, Saville seems obsessed with the problematic of “genius”, but rather than destroy that concept she’d rather run a race with every great man who made a mark in the Western canon to see how she measures up. She paints extraordinarily well, but that’s actually beside the point. <em>Chapter (for Linda Nochlin) </em>in charcoal on cotton duck canvas, recalls the particularly beautiful study by da Vinci, The Virgin and Christ with St. Anne. But Leonardo’s women are locked in high-minded, existential conversation and seem incredibly connected to one another whereas Saville’s women are piled on one another anonymously, beautifully drawn as forms with a fullness and accuracy. But I don’t understand who these women are, and why we should care about them.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
I guess I should now take back what I just said about the critics vs. the painters.</p>
<p>SUZY SPENCE<br />
And I agree with David about special effects. Nicole Eisenman steals more effectively and is just as nimble a virtuoso. By comparison I would say Saville is a mannerist, and less able to fully employ the styles she robs, at least not in this show.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
The thing that I found especially irritating about the piece Suzy is talking about, <em>Chapter (For Linda Nochlin), </em>is the way she spray painted trompe l&#8217;oeil extra sheets at various junctures in emulation of Frank Auerbach (another of her early mentors) who sticks extra paper on when he wants to extend an image or repair a support punctured by incessant correction. There&#8217;s no correction here; the image is totally calculated, along with its arsenal of effects.</p>
<p>SUZY SPENCE<br />
Brenda, I never think beautiful paint is enough. Press releases in recent years try too hard to align her with a list of great (dead) white men, which must be some incredible weight for her to bear. I wish Saville would make an escape to the woods where she could return to the introspection she’d invested in earlier. She used to reach into her soul and hand it to us, but I’m not seeing that now.</p>
<figure id="attachment_78781" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-78781" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Fate-1.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-78781"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-78781 size-medium" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Fate-1-275x297.jpg" alt="Jenny Saville, Fate 1, 2018. Oil on canvas, 102-3/8 x 94-1/2 inches © Jenny Saville. Photography by Mike Bruce. Courtesy Gagosian." width="275" height="297" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/Fate-1-275x297.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/Fate-1.jpg 463w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-78781" class="wp-caption-text">Jenny Saville, Fate 1, 2018. Oil on canvas, 102-3/8 x 94-1/2 inches © Jenny Saville. Photography by Mike Bruce. Courtesy Gagosian.</figcaption></figure>
<p>JULIE HEFFERNAN<br />
The so-called project she is serving in these three paintings seems to be of the utmost importance right now, post Dana Schutz and even vis a vis Kara Walker&#8217;s show where so many black bodies were made to look as foolish in places as the white bodies looked malign. These <em>Fates</em> are proud bodies and full of fluid possibilities.  I always thought the real reason Dana&#8217;s Emmett Till painting didn&#8217;t work ultimately was because it wasn&#8217;t painted well enough, with the kind of weird surprising paint and drawing that, for instance, her Michael Jackson painting had. We&#8217;re not here to go over Schutz again, but it was really interesting to see someone with such good intentions fail so miserably at trying to bridge the race gap, whereas here now with these <em>Fate</em> paintings no one is making any noise at all about a white artist&#8217;s right to depict a black body. That&#8217;s an <em>important project</em>, Barry</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
The problem with Schutz’s <em>Open Casket</em> is that it was decorative to the point of insulting the viewer. I remember at the Whitney opening noticing the painting from the corner of my eye and registering it as an attractive painting but having no feeling for the subject whatsoever. There was nothing about it visually that hinted at the horror of the content. I don’t want to say it lacked empathy but to take a horrifying event and turn it into attractive paint is bad painting at best.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
Making no noise is a great accomplishment? I don&#8217;t think so. When the conflict blew up over the Sam Durant sculpture at the Walker, I was surprised when I read that it been exhibited at Documenta, because I&#8217;d seen and written about that Documenta and didn&#8217;t remember the piece. I read back over what I&#8217;d written and confirmed that I hadn&#8217;t mentioned it. Then I got curious, and read all the other Documenta reviews I could find online. Not a single one mentioned Durant&#8217;s sculpture. That didn&#8217;t make me think it was harmless in Germany but volatile in Minnesota. It made me think that the piece was so mediocre no one felt obliged to think about it— until a different context focused a different kind of attention on it. I guess Saville, being British, won&#8217;t be included in the next Whitney Biennial, but if she were, there might be some interesting responses. Oh, and by the way, Dana&#8217;s Emmett Till painting is a very good work.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Saville isn&#8217;t depicting a black body directly, but an African carving. The flesh montaged over the fetish is Caucasian, as best one can tell—or race is at any event not axiomatic. The incorporation of the carving recalls David Salle to me. These <em>Fates</em> are interesting images. But can we get past white-woman-painting-black-people silliness and just ask what it means, what it is really saying?</p>
<p>JULIE HEFFERNAN<br />
<em>Fate 3 </em>and <em>Fate 2</em> have heads of black women; they&#8217;re not carvings. And what they’re really saying is totally prosaic when put into words: “out of all these multiplicities we&#8217;re also one.” How boring is that when distilled down to mere words. But that&#8217;s where the art comes in – she’s created a medley of fluid bodies and I revel in it! I <em>so</em> appreciate when an artist takes on big themes, unwieldy problems, and does it unstintingly, and more importantly, without <em>irony</em>! And Barry, you cannot just claim the Schutz <em>Open Casket</em> is a good painting without saying why.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
Suzy, I don&#8217;t think she was reaching into her soul in the earlier works and they were not beautiful. By putting aside the content of the previous work and focusing on the excitement of the paint, I think she has a chance of saying something less calculated and more authentic and in the end, more ambitious. I agree with David though, the drawing is a bit flat.</p>
<p>David Salle is a good comparison, and not just because of the African carving, but also because of the random layering of images. When I made etchings with David, we would print the plates, each with different images on them in various combinations until something happened. When they worked, they worked. But we were not asking what they were saying.</p>
<figure id="attachment_19344" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-19344" style="width: 251px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Propped.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-19344"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-19344" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Propped-251x300.jpg" alt="Jenny Saville, Propped, 1992. Oil on Canvas, 213.5 x 183cm. The Saatchi Collection, London" width="251" height="300" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2011/10/Propped-251x300.jpg 251w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2011/10/Propped.jpg 360w" sizes="(max-width: 251px) 100vw, 251px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-19344" class="wp-caption-text">Jenny Saville, Propped, 1992. Oil on Canvas, 213.5 x 183cm. The Saatchi Collection, London</figcaption></figure>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Salle is a formalist to his fingertips; they &#8220;worked&#8221; because they clicked into something startling and satisfying in equal measure, no doubt. But Saville isn&#8217;t a formalist. She&#8217;s always been interested in themes. I take issue with the dismissal of her early work &#8211; the fat self-portrait in Propped and the liposuction paintings. They were totally authentic in the personal and political urgency of their issues and persuasive in marrying painterly marvel and bodily discomfort.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
Thank you, David. I agree with what you say about Saville’s earlier work!</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Dennis assumes, incorrectly, that I must have been joking in finding Tracey Emin&#8217;s figuration more convincing than Saville’s. I think both artists, in their latest works, are dealing with the body through mark making. Both are mannerists, but Emin is served well by restricting herself to mannerisms of abstract expressionism. She was channeling Roger Hilton, an English abstract painter who struggled with &#8211; and exploited &#8211; alcohol addiction in his figurative experiments. There&#8217;s plenty to fault in Emin&#8217;s results but it is a kind of escape to the woods, in Suzy&#8217;s sense, that Saville isn&#8217;t up for.</p>
<p>SUZY SPENCE<br />
Brenda, her early paintings seemed distinctly feminist to me and feminist artists are <em>Man Repellers</em> by nature. In her early work there was no willingness to please; she wanted to repel you with her fleshy body and suck you in with her painting technique at the same time. That tension no longer exists, and so the work is flat as Barry says.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
Julie’s mention of Schutz is apt since Dana especially activates the decorative quality of her paint strokes, which are little masterpieces in themselves. In the meantime, objections to these works because of an absence of “soul” is, well, <em>retardataire</em> and romantic. Postmodernism is about a human world without such constructions. Some viewers prefer the art without the mystification! Do we look for “soul” in Salle or Sherman, for instance?</p>
<p>SUZY SPENCE<br />
Well then you should love this work Walter! It’s perfectly postmodern and cold.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
Not cold enough by a long shot! The depiction of faces in particular seemed to invite empathy in a really blatant way. And how sentimental the use of the pietà idea!</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Yeah, especially that schlocky pietà of a guy coming out of a war zone with a sexed-up infant in his arms, pure pompier.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
Wish I hadn’t seen that one.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
To return to Walter’s question, Salle and Sherman spare us any quest for &#8220;soul&#8221; because of their knowingly constructed style. Their tropes arrive and function intact. Saville isn&#8217;t deconstructing anyone else&#8217;s technique at this stage, she is merely tapping into effects. I agree with Julie that they are free of irony. They are anything but art about art, which is why their mannerisms are all the more egregious.</p>
<p>JULIE HEFFERNAN<br />
Yes she has a lot of effects in this show but towards a more interesting end than in earlier shows she&#8217;s had. Would you consider the wings and appendages in <em>Fate 3</em> to be mere &#8220;effects&#8221;? Because to me those are essential components of the structure of the work, acting boldly to move it in space, to suggest hybridity and composite bodies, all necessary for the bigger project at hand.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
By wings to you mean the smudged arcs over the left shoulder of the amalgamated figure? I am reading drawing on a wall in the studio (pace the baseboard behind the pedestal) that serves the functional purpose of saying that the figure is an artificial studio-bound creation.</p>
<p>JULIE HEFFERNAN<br />
I mean the chair-like appendage (in <em>Fate 3</em>) attached to her shoulder to the right, and the lobster claw shape to the left — those are essential components to the icon’s whole structure. The smudges behind the form just reinforce the integrity of the overall monolithic shape she’s trying to create. Notice also how the big strokes of yellow paint within the big reddish brown shape to the bottom right reinforces the horizontal ankle attached to the foot, that is also another pedestal for the icon, as well as a pivot point for the whole structure above, and also causes the mars red shape to turn in space, and thereby shift the plane of that shape from horizontal to vertical, like a chair. So it’s a multiplicity of things – a chair-like thing, a cape-like thing, a drooping wing-like thing: super interesting!</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON (from the Gallery)<br />
Standing in front of the paintings, my second look, I have to say they’re awesome. The sense of play is overwhelming — the artist in the studio, making pictures one at a time, doing this and that — a big hand expertly tendered here, some scratchy Twomblyesque marks there, a witty pose overall — amusing herself, pleasing herself — it’s just so good — artists have an alibi, all they really have to do is represent the individual subject, not be the World Shaper.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
Wow, great Walter! But what about the pietàs? Blue Pietà is icky in an Odd Nerdrum way.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
I wish we could be having this discussion in front of the paintings.</p>
<p>But I want to go back to something said a little while back and register the fact that I don&#8217;t understand the idea of saying one artist is a formalist and another is something else. A combination that works for David Salle is one that conveys a certain feeling, I think. Why is that &#8220;formalism&#8221;? What made Saville&#8217;s earlier paintings work for me were formal aspects— these conveyed her themes in ways that worked for me. The themes without the forms wouldn&#8217;t have done that.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
That’s an important point, Barry.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
Somehow, David, I don’t think they’re projected. If they are, she’s definitely unparalleled at it.</p>
<p>How a viewer sees these things is totally parti pris. They can seem kitsch or heartfelt. You know the head in the pieta is a <em>kouros</em>. And four-armed dead body carried from the ruins by the chap in Seventh Seal garb is too clean by half. Other works look like her friends posing nude together — warm and real, and a real subject. In the end, she’s an artist; she can do what she wants, and the hell with piffle from the critics!</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
Hear! Hear!</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Hmm. Well, I certainly don&#8217;t like to project moral outrage at any means employed if the results are convincing.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
These people&#8230;</p>
<figure id="attachment_78784" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-78784" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/walter-delos.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-78784"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-78784" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/walter-delos-275x367.jpg" alt="Jenny Saville, Delos, 2017-18. Detail, photographed by Walter Robinson" width="275" height="367" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/walter-delos-275x367.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/walter-delos.jpg 375w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-78784" class="wp-caption-text">Jenny Saville, Delos, 2017-18. Detail, photographed by Walter Robinson</figcaption></figure>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
OK, well let&#8217;s talk about that scribble in and underneath. What is it trying to say? Are these automata from Westworld and this is the machinery where their viscera should be? I don&#8217;t think so. Did she do some scribble underneath to get her juices flowing, and then started her beaux arts painting on top of that and then Gagosian came and whisked the picture off before she could finish it? No, this is effect. a way of saying this is a contemporary painting, not the academic, anachronistic figure painting it would otherwise look to be, because squiggles are modern. That&#8217;s mannerism at its worst to me. But if someone could offer me a reading of the use of this device that energizes their understanding of the image, I&#8217;m all ears.</p>
<p>SUZY SPENCE<br />
Walter and David, I don’t think they are projected onto canvas. I imagine an athletic event that called for giant easels and enough space and light to study her subjects who she actually asked to recline on pedestals and chairs. I think she’s working from life; I imagine a string of models, most of whom appear in her studio the way actors come in for an audition. I sense she doesn’t know many of them, as there is such similarity of body type and age, like she&#8217;d advertised the project on Craig’s List. People in their late 30s, some black, mostly white. My favorite piece was Vis and Ramen I, who are both in recline like Manet’s Olympia. They sink deeper into their pedestal than her other subjects, their genitals almost touch, and I was fascinated by her decision not to establish that contact.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
Suzy, I don’t think that’s true. In the 2003 press release from her <em>Migrants</em> show it mentions that she prefers to work from photographs rather than living models. “Saville calls herself a scavenger of images.” Her studio is a repository of images from old medical journals of bruises, scars, images of deformities and disease. In this sense her relationship with her subject matter is more Salle then Soutine or Freud and it’s evident in this newer work.</p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON (returning to the conversation)<br />
Sorry to weigh in so late. I got sidetracked.</p>
<p>Although I am sure she couldn’t possibly be working from life, even twenty years ago I was unsure how she got from the photo to the canvas, though now it seems obvious computers are involved. Even then Saville seemed to challenge the improvisational constraints of either grid or projector. Both then and now the paint seemed spontaneously slapped on, but without the flatness of most paintings made from projected photographs. It is what makes them look so contemporary. They have all they dynamics of spontaneous paint handling, and the specific sureness without any of the uncertainty of where to put the paint. Something that Walter, can surely attest to. But though it would certainly indicate a super human talent if they were painted from life, I think it hardly matters conceptually how she manages to accomplish her paintings.</p>
<p>I think beauty, abject or otherwise, takes us nowhere productive.</p>
<p>Barry squarely solves the problem with his question about content, because this kind of analysis is the error that takes us away from what is actually happening in the paintings. This what has confused me. I will look at the paintings and be totally taken in, and even studying the details, I am amazed at the frisson between spontaneity and specificity. Then I get home and try to answer analytical questions about “to what end” and the project starts to fall apart. Walter had the perfect response, he was dismissive at first, in his critical self, but when his painter self went to study them again, was impressed.</p>
<p>I have to say when all is said and done, in all probability the details are stronger than the sum of their parts. They direct us to considerations of emotions that are constructed out of touch, rather than conception. I think David Salle is an apt referent, but because of the authenticity of the paint, they do not have the distance and irony of Salle, who does (a la David Cohen) see paint as a mere illustration of itself.</p>
<figure style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/kardon-saville.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-78785"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-78785" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/kardon-saville-275x367.jpg" alt="Jenny Saville, Fate 1, 2018. Detail, photograph by Dennis Kardon" width="275" height="367" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/kardon-saville-275x367.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/kardon-saville.jpg 375w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption class="wp-caption-text">Jenny Saville, Fate 1, 2018. Detail, photograph by Dennis Kardon</figcaption></figure>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Dennis and Walter prove that you can make better images by photographing bits of Jenny Saville than Jenny Saville can in a completed canvas.</p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON<br />
This is where we disagree David, I don’t sense those “scribbles&#8221; are supposed to have meaning in the representation sense, but in the sense of trying to marry an arbitrary spontaneity with a mark making that is directed to represent stuff and break down the moment when one kind of gesture transitions into another. As Walter mentioned, Manet could do this flawlessly on all levels, no one has been able to attain that complexity since (except Matisse, but in a different way).</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
In spite of the authenticity of the paint, I think one can still judge the work with the same criterion that one might apply to Salle, and they’re better that way. Besides, I never felt much emotion in her touch.</p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON<br />
The emotion is not in the touch itself but the construction of what the touch conveys. Like the hand touching the leg. It’s in the economy of gesture, and specificity of the shape of the mark. Manet is what the ideal looks like, but again, old fashioned compared to contemporary issues of representation and scale:</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
I wonder what&#8217;s contemporary about painting on a huge scale, considering the fact that we actually process images on small screens in this era, and outside of art galleries and museums have very few sacred and civic spaces in which we look at large oil paintings. Saville&#8217;s command of size is certainly impressive, but what value does blown up charcoal drawing convey, beyond the acrobatics of its delivery?</p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON<br />
I have been concerned with your willingness to demean what Saville does by cavalierly referring to “acrobatics” or “blown up charcoal drawing” when what I, Walter, and others in the discussion have constantly pointed out is thought in action. The whole point of painting is confronting the physicality of an image in the world and its relationship to the body of the viewer. How it metamorphoses as it is approached, the scale of a mark to one’s own body as an image breaks apart upon close inspection. It is why the overall conception, as seen as a coherent image is so up in the air in this work. It is easy to use language to name and then devalue, but I think what is really good about Saville is that she seems to be constantly trying to go beyond any singular idea or conception.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
Many of our pros and cons show how easy it is to marshall any kind of argument against any kind of thing, especially with aesthetics. Why not praise Saville’s works for going counter to digital socialization, for instance?</p>
<p>You could also say that she graffitied her own work so the taggers won’t have to.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
You&#8217;re right! and of course the opposite is true too, if you are good with words you can use them to make any old thing sound good or interesting. I would really like to be convinced to like these paintings but it&#8217;s not quite happening.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
This person — so nutty!</p>
<figure id="attachment_78786" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-78786" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/walter-saville.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-78786"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-78786" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/walter-saville-275x367.jpg" alt="Jenny Saville, Vis and Ramin II, 2018. Detail, photograph by Walter Robinson" width="275" height="367" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/walter-saville-275x367.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/walter-saville.jpg 375w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-78786" class="wp-caption-text">Jenny Saville, Vis and Ramin II, 2018. Detail, photograph by Walter Robinson</figcaption></figure>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Really? I don&#8217;t see the person as nutty at all. It is a very nice, respectable old-fashioned 19th-century painting done after a photograph of a woman over which the artist has inscribed some red dashes and black hatching. Half the students in the New York Academy of Art MFA show that opened last week could have knocked out that head, though none of them would have done the dashes on top</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
That would be the first thing they&#8217;d try <em>after</em> leaving the Academy.</p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON<br />
There is no NYAA grad student (or few painters anywhere really) that could accomplish what she has accomplished.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
Yeah, you overestimate the skills of the NYAA grads. And you object to the random marks? It’s all marks, at any rate, and they’re nutty in the way they’re deployed — since Manet painters have toyed with the codes of representation of facial features. But we all use the codes — Saville just keeps to the academic conventions more than most. Still, there’s play, and I think it works.</p>
<p>As for the rest of the chazerai, it’s functioning in several ways, as we all know. Animates the surface. Stands in for entrails. Enlivens the academic figuration. Represents the triumph of humanism over abstraction (as Donald Kuspit might argue).</p>
<p>My original reaction was that the marriage of academic and modernist elements was a failure. I like my quotations clean and unfussed with, generally. But then I decided I didn’t care.<br />
BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
This one is much ‘nuttier’.</p>
<figure id="attachment_78787" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-78787" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/brenda-saville.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-78787"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-78787 size-medium" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/brenda-saville-275x367.jpg" alt="Jenny Saville, Vis and Ramin II, 2018. Detail, photograph by Brenda Zlamany" width="275" height="367" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/brenda-saville-275x367.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/brenda-saville.jpg 375w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-78787" class="wp-caption-text">Jenny Saville, Vis and Ramin II, 2018. Detail, photograph by Brenda Zlamany</figcaption></figure>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
As a detail, it does look pretty yummy. But is there a painting in the show that does that as a whole?</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Nuts being the operative word, Brenda. But isn&#8217;t this just the trope of unfinish? We are to read the (oilstick?) marks underneath as an armature, and then some figure bits are in grisaille, and the testes are then nicely worked up with shadows in place, behaving properly. The whole concoction is saying, I&#8217;m an old master, I&#8217;ve got the chops</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
That might all be true, David. But as Barry says, it’s still ‘yummy’. And I think the red dashes are good in this passage. Why not just enjoy it? And I think the <em>Fate</em> paintings do it as a whole.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Brenda: You misread Barry I think. He&#8217;s saying there are lots of corners of pictures that are appealing in their dispatch, but the overall images don&#8217;t convince. If you follow the curate&#8217;s way of eating eggs you&#8217;ll end up in the emergency ward.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
Ha!</p>
<p>SUZY SPENCE<br />
Much as I love her ambition, I really wish she’d find new artists with whom she’d like to be compared. The genius thing needs to go.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
Like if she started channeling Florine Stettheimer? That would really throw an interesting money wrench into things.</p>
<p>SUZY SPENCE<br />
Yes it would.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
What about the scarlet skewed halo? That’s new. Also, relative to the notion that this stuff is familiar and tired, don’t forget she totally owns this niche.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
I think she has some competition, actually: Odd Nerdrum, Adrian Ghenie, others whose names I didn&#8217;t feel a need to remember. There is a big market for this kind of thing, especially beyond the Urals.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
Odd Nerdrum is almost completely detached from modern painting. But Ghenie and some of the other Romanians do have more in common with her—maybe also some of the Dresden school. But none of them have this fascination with the corporeal, which is what&#8217;s made Saville&#8217;s best work so compelling.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Cecily Brown at her best marries paint and flesh more convincingly, though neither of them is Rubens</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
I hate Rubens, except for the small studies.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
OK, enjoy Jenny Saville then.</p>
<p><em>By this stage, Julie Heffernan and Suzy Spence have signed off.</em></p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON<br />
I need to interject another issue which seems new in this work. It seems she is taking a piece of sculptural representation and trying through paint to capture the living aspect of what the sculpture was originally trying to represent. The bringing of the visceral to the constructed has always been her territory, and she is now trying to expand on the ways signifiers of bodies moving and being represented in the world convey actual feeling. And she is really trying to break it down brushstroke by brushstroke so that it is totally appropriate to focus on the details of moments in her paintings where she is getting her hands dirty. I don’t even know if we can evaluate the total effect of these paintings yet. That’s their provocative moment. This whole discussion of how the micro becomes macro is not just a trendy concept. It is crucial to how we move and represent in the world, and the heatedness of the discussion reflects the divides she is trying to bridge. Anything that provokes this much disagreement must be elucidating something important.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
I think we are all agreed that the <em>Fates</em> series attempts and achieves something new and substantial, and is the highlight of the show (yummy details notwithstanding).</p>
<p>These composite images remind me strongly of early work by Richard Hamilton, which itself was a Pop extension of earlier Dada strategies. What stands out in Saville is that she is doing it all in paint, but ultimately, so what? A photomontage based on paintings, a painting based on computer-generated collage: it is just a technical distinction.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think one can play with issues as loaded and potent as racial identity, gender representation, the lived-in body etc. in large, resolved public images and not have a forceful message one is ready to stand behind, or that others who admire the results can express coherently. Saying that these images are provoking a debate and we can&#8217;t decide what they mean yet doesn&#8217;t cut it for me. We don&#8217;t have to have a definitive interpretation, but the onus is on defenders to offer a start.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
I disagree about the <em>Fates</em> series. They are not as bad as the pietàs, but that&#8217;s it.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
I would want to cite the group of British artists who took illustrative techniques and tricked them out with painterly effects — R.B. Kitaj, Allen Jones, even Hockney, along with Hamilton.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Yeah, she is totally a footnote to <em>School of London</em> painting, both the grubby existentialist end of the spectrum (Freud and Auerbach) and the Pop end (Hamilton and Kitaj). But she chickens out of the middle point, which is where she actually needs to concentrate her efforts if she wants to paint rivers of flesh: Francis Bacon.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
Just back from a break. Did anyone mention George Condo?</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Someone should have done, with the African statue. This is what irony-free George Condo looks like, Julie. Pastiche minus irony equals kitsch.</p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON<br />
One problem here seems to be that David sees what Saville does as merely facilely co-opting a kind of historical mark making. Yummy sticks in my throat as well. While I hate yummy, I don’t think Saville is that, nor do I think what she does is facile. In my experience of the paintings I have seen, it doesn’t seem like that. But it is the conflict of everyone’s own imagined histories, which for the painters in the group, is how we construct our own genealogies that make this discussion so confounding. I can easily see how David and Barry might find this work deficient, yet when I look at it, I don’t think so. On some level all painters at this point could be considered pastiche, and yet nevertheless, no one really, despite the many comparisons, looks like Saville. So to attack her for her method seems beside the point, and why authenticity reared its ugly head.</p>
<p>I think kitsch is becoming one of those words like beauty and soul, that people use to justify value or non-value, which pretend to be objectively agreed upon concepts but are really just an attempt to universalize an opinion. To me Bacon seems emotionally overblown kitsch, and yet he is immediately recognizable. I must, despite the condescending Nochlin groans, feel that a male painter would not come under so much negative scrutiny. I don’t believe Larry Rivers, who was genuinely facile, got this dismissal.</p>
<p>Asking the questions, “what is it really saying?” or “to what end?” sounds like critical thinking, but are not really applicable to artists or their work. They are questions viewers might ask of themselves but not of the artist. The ability of an artist or work of art to embrace ambiguity and not provide definitive answers to those kind of questions is a mark of quality to me. After her first show Saville faltered in this area for me, but seems to have regained her ambiguous footing in this one.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
Saville is also taking real people sitting in front of her and immersing them in a whirlpool of painterly effects on canvas. A pointed, literal definition of what her painting is, and an uncommon one.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
What Dennis said could start a whole new round. But rather than going there, I just want to point out that &#8220;to what end&#8221; (which I said) and &#8220;what is she saying&#8221; (which I would never say) are utterly different things. &#8220;Content is a glimpse,&#8221; said de Kooning; &#8220;to what end&#8221; means, What is that thing she&#8217;s got a glimpse of and that she is pursuing? It&#8217;s nothing to do with a verbally paraphrasable message (such as one that came up in this discussion, &#8220;We are all one,&#8221; I think it went). In the end, we can only agree to disagree, but the thing Saville seemed to glimpse before— I feel that she&#8217;s lost sight of it here.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
There’s a kind of sophistry in hitting on innocent phrases like &#8220;she is saying such and such&#8221;; we are all adults here, we know that intentions aren&#8217;t the final arbiter of anything, that artists at their best generate ambiguities of intention as much as form. But Saville very deliberately, pointedly, and publicly deploys rhetorics of style and method in ways that I find completely removed from any historically or psychologically informed understanding of their value.</p>
<p>Dennis, in your writings on artists you are hardly shy to interpret, including &#8211; rightly &#8211; ambiguous or unintended elements in the finished works. I was simply asking Saville&#8217;s defenders to take a stab at interpreting images in ways that make sense of her methods. I think only Julie began to do that in her reading of the <em>Fates</em> series.</p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON<br />
All of my reviews are certainly about how the work speaks to me from my perspective of a painter and not an attempt to explain ultimate meaning. I do think Saville, in my interpretation, is trying to address the gap between representation and life. She starts with painting a lifeless statue, substituting real people using our criteria of realness, photography illuminated by paint, trying to turn stone to flesh, and then turning to a remake of cubism to address how that metamorphosis is unsuccessful. This may seem, in the ideas department, not original, but it has always been pertinent and comes out of her work. In Barry’s terms what she is &#8220;trying to reach for” is the connection of real humans to representations. She probably fails as this distance really cannot be bridged, but in her case her insufficiency is where her art lies. Which is why the details are important to me, as I think trying to capture the complexity of looking at her work through one reproduction of an entire work on our devices is bound to be reductive of the experience and demean the enterprise. Salle takes the impossibility as a given and the “irony” that everyone perceives is just trying to make those failures expressive. While I think Saville is frustrated by the failure.</p>
<p>I think we disagree about the stylization of the “<em>pentimenti</em>,” which to me are not <em>pentimenti</em> exactly, but underpainting. Since they do not seem like actual attempts to describe the final subject, it seems arrogant not to give her the benefit of the doubt about the why of their existence. They might be part of an unseen aspect of the image, or a change of mind about the image, but I feel she doesn’t use them to call attention to her mastery, but the artificiality of what is left on top. This is where I think you question her sincerity, and I simply won’t make that call. You may be totally correct and the whole thing is completely contrived. I don’t feel that is the case, but I couldn’t say.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
To Dennis I would say representations <em>are</em> reality, and to David I’d exclaim, “values? I don’t need no stinkin’ values!” That is, she puts plenty of intention in her paintings, not the least of which is libidinal play and, as yet another afterthought to our colloquium, a challenge to Hirst and Kapoor, her bloviating male colleagues on the new “British Rich List.”</p>
<p><strong>Jenny Saville: Ancestors at Gagosian Gallery, 522 West 21st Street, between 10th and 11th avenues, New York City, gagosian.com, May 3 to June 16, 2018.</strong></p>
<p><strong>David Cohen is Publisher/Editor at artcritical.com. Julie Heffernan is a painter, represented by P.P.O.W. Gallery, New York. Dennis Kardon is a painter who shows at Mitchell Algus Gallery, New York.Walter Robinson is a painter, represented by Jeffrey Deitch, New York.Barry Schwabsky is art critic of The Nation, a poet, and author of The Perpetual Guest and other works. Suzy Spence, Executive Publisher at artcritical.com, is a painter, represented by Sears Peyton Gallery, New York. Painter Brenda Zlamany&#8217;s most recent commission was unveiled in 2018 at Davenport College, Yale University, and her series of watercolor portraits, 100/100, will be shown at the JCC, New York, in the fall. </strong></p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>Walter Robinson: Paintings and Other Indulgences</em> at Moore College of Art</strong></p>
<p>Curated by Barry Blinderman<br />
January 23 to March 12, 2016<br />
1916 Race Street (at N 20th Street)<br />
Philadelphia, 215 965 4000</p>
<figure id="attachment_55461" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-55461" style="width: 497px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-55461 size-full" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Picture_Perfect_Kill.jpg" alt="Walter Robinson, Picture Perfect Kill, 2012. Acrylic on canvas, 48 x 48 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Moore College." width="497" height="500" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/02/Picture_Perfect_Kill.jpg 497w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/02/Picture_Perfect_Kill-71x71.jpg 71w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/02/Picture_Perfect_Kill-275x277.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/02/Picture_Perfect_Kill-32x32.jpg 32w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/02/Picture_Perfect_Kill-64x64.jpg 64w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/02/Picture_Perfect_Kill-96x96.jpg 96w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/02/Picture_Perfect_Kill-128x128.jpg 128w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/02/Picture_Perfect_Kill-150x150.jpg 150w" sizes="(max-width: 497px) 100vw, 497px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-55461" class="wp-caption-text">Walter Robinson, Picture Perfect Kill, 2012. Acrylic on canvas, 48 x 48 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Moore College.</figcaption></figure>
<p>These are images that we have seen before: paintings of desire, fear, and pain, or even dreams. A perfectly presented entree, concocted in a corporate culinary laboratory, packed and frozen, to offer quantified flavor with glossy convenience. Or, perhaps, a fastidiously folded flannel shirt, with one sleeve arranged to emphasize the pattern. These are images that, in one way or another, sell: beauty, leisure, vitality, and freedom, all available at cost. Walter Robinson has painted many of the things we want to buy, over the course of several decades, expropriating both the Panglossian ideal of commercial product photography as well as the roughly hewn yearnings captured from the illustrated covers of pulp novels. Since the dissolution of <em>Artnet </em>magazine, where he served as editor 16 years, Robinson has been able to fully devote himself to painting once more, some of the recent results of which are on display in his first traveling retrospective, organized by Barry Blinderman, former gallerist and director of the University Galleries of Illinois State University in Normal, Illinois, the first venue of the show.</p>
<figure id="attachment_55462" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-55462" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-55462" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Sun_Surf_and_Style-275x367.jpg" alt="Walter Robinson, Sun, Surf, and Style: the Swim Tee, Ride the Wave, 2014. Acrylic on canvas, 40 x 30 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Moore College." width="275" height="367" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/02/Sun_Surf_and_Style-275x367.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/02/Sun_Surf_and_Style.jpg 375w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-55462" class="wp-caption-text">Walter Robinson, Sun, Surf, and Style: the Swim Tee, Ride the Wave, 2014. Acrylic on canvas, 40 x 30 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Moore College.</figcaption></figure>
<p>Robinson&#8217;s paintings, more often than not, make use of commercial illustrations as source material, while also deriving a great deal of their meaning from them. Over the years, Robinson has spoke of the advertising circulars and mail-order catalogs he often employs as “wanting to be art,” and while his physical re-representations in effect complete this goal, a larger debt is owed to the surreptitious art historical referentiality that laces through our culture. This is a canonical appropriation in which classic forms appear and reappear over various iterations, even as the referent is lost. Robinson plays with these brushes with history and the cultural affectations they have given rise to, while questioning the stability of such representations. There is much to draw on in the calculated Never Never Land of advertising; Robinson enters this world not in search of a barometer of the times, or even the means of their unraveling, but rather to observe, report, and allow viewers to come to their own conclusions.</p>
<p>Recent paintings after Lands&#8217; End catalogs capture the innocuous fashion of inconspicuous clothing — the arrangement of tasteful pastel moccasins (<em>Shoes</em>, 2014) or models reduced to bodies, faces removed to direct attention solely to the swimsuit for sale (<em>Sun, Surf, and Style: the Swim Tee, Ride the Wave</em>, 2014). The space of snug familiarity offered by the mail-order catalog is one that has been nearly displaced by the more immediately gratifying Internet; the catalog is in part a fast-fading lexicon of desire, a place for dreams to be bought, or at least coveted. Seen through this cornerstone of old media, the somewhat dowdy styles offered by Lands&#8217; End can seem nostalgic, a middlebrow vision of predictability and contentment, an unchanging standard confounding a world in constant flux.</p>
<p>The comfort of one&#8217;s own home, and the food products one can prepare in it, has provided Robinson with another rich source of raw material since the 1990s: the resplendent surfaces of food photography. In <em>Oriental Beef</em> (1994), sauce congeals in autumnal hues with preternatural fluidity, coating the rice below; the plate is tightly cropped, betraying the boxed origin of the source photograph. In another recent series, Robinson has created a taxonomy of burgers, portraying both the home reconstituted and the take-out. The components of <em>Amy&#8217;s Veggie Burger</em> (2012), are elegantly fanned out like a hand of cards, the layers carefully displayed in adamant renunciation of its processed origins, while the earlier <em>Big Mac</em> (2008) is a solitary caloric monolith, the undulating surface of the crowning bun turned into a sesame-seeded lunar surface.</p>
<p>In Robinson&#8217;s consumer product still-lifes, branding is both emphasized and deliberately obscured, while subjects are returned to sometimes decades later and re-composed. <em>Honey</em> (2014) is beautifully illegible while the Budweiser logo of <em>Three Beers</em> (1987) fades in and out like a memory of the brand. Johnny Walker bottles merger into liquid reds and golds while Vicks Vapor Rub remains sharp with trademarked clarity. These products remain more than their constituent ingredients, even surpassing intended uses; like the ineffable yet instantly identifiable red of Coca-Cola, these are brands as identities, woven into national myth until the seams become indistinguishable, part and parcel to a corporatized American experience that we are all compelled to enter.</p>
<p>The work that proved name-making for Robinson in the early 1980s, adapted pulp novel covers, is likely the most difficult for the uninitiated to enter into. Each painting is a simplified reworking of an original paperback illustration, with titles taken from the novels themselves. At times, these interpretations appear self-explanatory. In <em>Something of Value</em> (1986), a woman grasps a man for support who is armed for a confrontation, evidently near as he defiantly looks over the horizon toward unseen menacing forces. <em>Society Nurse</em> (2011) remains cryptic, with the presumably titular nurse carrying a tray of surgical instruments with a far off look in her eyes. Robinson begins with images projected directly on his canvases, working in the dark, and his paintings are completed with loose, nearly impressionistic brushwork, never losing detail. These paintings archive images that just as easily could be lost to time, reveling in the melodrama of desire that simmered between the original book&#8217;s thin covers, outlasting the armature of the stories themselves, now faded away and left to obscurity.</p>
<p>All is archived in Robinson&#8217;s work, in one way or another. The present often has a way of becoming tomorrow’s curiosity, and as a compendium of advertising — some of the most fleeting of images created — it serves as an absorbing document, one that continues to grow. There is a certain Postmodern slickness to the transformation that’s affected, an image shifting from one form to another. But unlike many of his fellow appropriators, Robinson is not attempting to splinter the tropes that both propel and stymie culture; the conversion of one commodity into another is presented succinctly and without great fanfare, belying the potential ennoblement that encompasses such a transaction. Hinted at in this work is a romance latent in all images, the cause and course of representation that dwells in our subconscious. Advertising offers solutions, and in his abstractions of our wants, Robinson counters with questions.</p>
<figure id="attachment_55460" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-55460" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-55460" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Painkillers-275x345.jpg" alt="Walter Robinson, Painkillers, 2013. Acrylic on linen, 20 x 16 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Moore College. " width="275" height="345" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/02/Painkillers-275x345.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/02/Painkillers.jpg 399w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-55460" class="wp-caption-text">Walter Robinson, Painkillers, 2013. Acrylic on linen, 20 x 16 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Moore College.</figcaption></figure>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<figure id="attachment_53211" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-53211" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/brenda-and-oona-e1450121588478.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-53211" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/brenda-and-oona-e1450121588478.jpg" alt="Brenda Zlamany painting her daughter Oona in her Williamsburg studio, 2015. In the background, portrait commission destined for Yale University Sterling Library with working materials. Photo: Mary Jones" width="550" height="435" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-53211" class="wp-caption-text">Brenda Zlamany painting her daughter Oona in her Williamsburg studio, 2015. In the background, portrait commission destined for Yale University Sterling Library with working materials. Photo: Mary Jones</figcaption></figure>
<p>Brenda Zlamany has long been known for exploring and revitalizing traditional portraiture. Her technique is impressively old world (Rembrandt and Holbein are cited influences) and her command of oil painting affirms serious dedication and mastery of the medium. But Zlamany’s work is decidedly contemporary in the way it questions and sometimes confounds the usual relationship between subject and artist.</p>
<figure id="attachment_53219" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-53219" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/zlamany-watercolors-on-floor.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-53219" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/zlamany-watercolors-on-floor-275x236.jpg" alt="A batch from the series, &quot;Watercolor Portrait a Day&quot; by Brenda Zlamany. Photo: Brenda Zlamany" width="275" height="236" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/zlamany-watercolors-on-floor-275x236.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/zlamany-watercolors-on-floor.jpg 583w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-53219" class="wp-caption-text">A batch from the series, &#8220;Watercolor Portrait a Day&#8221; by Brenda Zlamany. Photo: Brenda Zlamany</figcaption></figure>
<p>This exchange is central to Zlamany’s current work, which has become more openly interactive than ever, even performative, as she paints the portrait in front of the subject as they observe her. For a project in Taiwan funded by a Fulbright grant in 2011, the artist painted 888 watercolor portraits on location, which led to 12 paintings of aboriginal teenage boys. Now, she’s taken on an equally difficult demographic: the New York art world. Her year-long project, “Watercolor Portrait a Day,” is actively underway with artists, friends, family and casual acquaintances all coming through the studio in an intricate web of connections. Each sitting is concluded with the artist taking a photograph of the subject holding his or her portrait. The photo is then posted to Facebook and Instagram, one portrait every day.</p>
<p>It’s become quite the phenomenon. She gets hundreds of “likes,” comments and criticism with each post and was thrown off Instagram once for a day, (see the posting of day 193). No money changes hands and the portraits remain Zlamany’s property.</p>
<p>And every subject entering the artist’s studio encounters the nemesis and progenitor for this project: an imposing oil painting, in progress, of seven women in 19th-century costume. This is a commissioned portrait from the Yale Women Faculty Forum, and the depicted women are the first women to receive PhDs from Yale, in 1894. The painting is set to hang in Yale’s prestigious Sterling Memorial Library.</p>
<p>I met with Brenda in her Williamsburg studio in late November where she lives with her 15-year-old daughter, Oona. At the time, the “Watercolor Portrait a Day” count was in the low 200s.</p>
<p><strong>MARY JONES: You’ve said this project began as a way to counteract the pull and the gravitas of the Yale commissioned portrait. The women in the Yale painting are all historical, they’ve felt like ghosts, people that you’re divining or bringing to life, and you wanted some live people coming through as a counter balance.</strong></p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY: It’s coming along, don’t you think? I knew the Yale women were going to want a lot from me, this painting was going to take me to the depths. I needed to keep one foot out the door and a portrait-a-day project would keep me from getting over involved. It was such an injustice they weren’t painted in their lifetime that I do feel there’s a pull from these women, such a desire to be painted. I want it to seem like I know each and every one of them. I have to know them to the point that I’m dreaming about them and they’re real to me&#8211;that’s part of the technique. Most of my reference photos of the actual women aren’t very good and there’s too few of them. To create their personalities I’ve got to place them all into a certain age that’s quite different than my source photos. I have to create the color, make hairstyle adjustments and they need clothing. I have to imagine their bodies, and to do that convincingly I’ve researched and found living surrogates for each of them.</p>
<figure id="attachment_53216" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-53216" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/bz-robinson.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-53216" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/bz-robinson-275x275.jpg" alt="Walter Robinson holding &quot;Watercolor Portrait a Day&quot; #184 by Brenda Zlamany. Photo: Brenda Zlamany" width="275" height="275" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/bz-robinson-275x275.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/bz-robinson-71x71.jpg 71w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/bz-robinson-150x150.jpg 150w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/bz-robinson.jpg 500w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-53216" class="wp-caption-text">Walter Robinson holding &#8220;Watercolor Portrait a Day&#8221; #184 by Brenda Zlamany. Photo: Brenda Zlamany</figcaption></figure>
<p><strong>It seems like the Yale commission is very private, and the “Watercolor Portrait a Day” project is very public. We see pictures of it every day on Facebook.</strong></p>
<p>But the “Watercolor Portrait a Day” project has made the Yale girls public too, because everyone who sits comments on the painting and on the women. So the portrait-a-day feeds the Yale commission but it also makes me anxious. The “Watercolor Portrait a Day” is dangerous because it’s freaking Oona out, it’s hard on her to have all these people coming through the studio. She even referred to a sitter as “fucker” the other day, and these girls also would not like it to be here. So I’m struggling against different interests.</p>
<p><strong>Why would the Yale women object to the “Watercolor Portrait a Day?”</strong></p>
<p>I don’t want to seem like a mystical person, but you can’t help but get into these women. They want my undivided attention, and they would squeeze every ounce of painting ability out of me if they could. Things in the late 19th Century weren’t good for a lot of people, and these women had such privileged lives that you don’t have to feel sorry for them. They were educated, they traveled, but they were not welcomed by the boys at Yale. One of the reasons that I’m right for this job is that I know to get this done well I have to subjugate my ego. I’m a vehicle for <em>them</em>; this painting is not about me, or my art.</p>
<p><strong>So is the “Watercolor Portrait a Day” about you?</strong></p>
<p>It’s about relationships. In the Yale project, I might spend a whole day on a detail, like an eyebrow, trying to figure out, “Is this person thoughtful, angry, or happy?” and make all sorts of changes. But the “Watercolor Portrait a Day” has rules. Among the rules are that I have to accept whatever I get and I can’t change it after the person leaves. I’m not driving it intellectually. The Yale painting is a purely intellectual pursuit. All the pistons have to be firing 100% for me to do it. If I feel distracted or tired I could lose somebody. I could lose a face, I could lose a personality. I was working on Cornelia till midnight last night, painting her and then photographing the work every hour. I kept going over the photos on the screen to see if I was losing something because I could see she was starting to come into being. I saw the glimmer of who she was going to be and it was really fragile.</p>
<p>But the other thing about the “Watercolor Portrait a Day,” and I was talking to Alex Katz about this yesterday, is that I’m learning you can get incredible things if you let go of control. If you can see things without intellectualizing them it might be more than what you could have done if you were trying to stay in control. So it’s interesting to have one project that requires such focus and control up against this other project, which is about accepting what happens.</p>
<figure id="attachment_53217" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-53217" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/bz-ariane.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-53217" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/bz-ariane-275x275.jpg" alt="Ariane Lopez-Huici holding &quot;Watercolor Portrait a Day&quot; #220 by Brenda Zlamany. Photo: Brenda Zlamany" width="275" height="275" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/bz-ariane-275x275.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/bz-ariane-71x71.jpg 71w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/bz-ariane-150x150.jpg 150w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/bz-ariane.jpg 500w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-53217" class="wp-caption-text">Ariane Lopez-Huici holding &#8220;Watercolor Portrait a Day&#8221; #220 by Brenda Zlamany. Photo: Brenda Zlamany</figcaption></figure>
<p><strong>And you open up yourself and your home and encounter all kinds of people. </strong></p>
<p>Portraits are really an intense experience and most people who come want something more than just a portrait. It can be anything, something to divulge or confess, or something to prove for so many reasons. Sometimes they have an agenda, and it can be really big. Most of the people I’ve painted are artists and they tell me about their careers, or their lack of a career, their rent, their illnesses and their fears. Do I secretly believe I have any healing powers? Maybe I do a little bit. I feel it’s important to have this kind of interaction. It’s not a product-oriented project although I like it when the portraits are good. It’s experiential, we’re sitting down and we’re trying to achieve some kind of closeness. Whatever happens on the page is the evidence of that. You never know what you’re going to get, and sometimes it’s more than you’ve bargained for and I take that into the day. It all happens in a very short time, and I have to think on so many levels and stay focused to actually make the art. I let them talk the entire time and I’ve heard a lot about people and their lives. But it’s a two-way street: I’m talking too, and confessing things, too. I find myself telling something to someone that I’ve never said before. It does create closeness, but right now I don’t know if it will last.</p>
<p><strong>How do you connect to the subject’s appearance and character?</strong></p>
<p>At any given moment you can choose what you want to see. Recently I painted a woman who at first looked nondescript or even plain. In fact, she came in telling me that she wasn’t attractive and that she wasn’t photogenic, either. I was really conscious that there was a side of her that could be attractive; you can go either way with anybody. I worked on the angle. I saw that her lips were full and her eye color was beautiful. Right away I could see her best lines and most attractive features and I knew that not only could I paint it but that I could photograph it, too.</p>
<p><strong>I see the photographs as a collaboration, and sometimes a compromise between you and the subject. You want the portrait to look good, but your subject is also invested in having the photograph be flattering.</strong></p>
<p>The photos are just as hard as the painting. Nothing is accidental. I usually take about 100 photos and they’re really careful and discussed. The photo begins with the painting. I have things I’ve learned to do, some conscious, some unconscious, to put the subject at ease. I know the problem areas and how to address them in a particular way to relax the person. They’re telling me things without knowing it. I’ m reading them and taking a lot of cues from watching their face as they’re watching me paint them. When you’re painting someone and they’re watching and judging how you see them, you also become the subject in some way.</p>
<figure id="attachment_53218" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-53218" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/bz-staver.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-53218" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/bz-staver-275x275.jpg" alt="Kyle Staver holding &quot;Watercolor Portrait a Day&quot; #153 by Brenda Zlamany. Photo: Brenda Zlamany" width="275" height="275" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/bz-staver-275x275.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/bz-staver-71x71.jpg 71w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/bz-staver-150x150.jpg 150w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/bz-staver.jpg 500w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-53218" class="wp-caption-text">Kyle Staver holding &#8220;Watercolor Portrait a Day&#8221; #153 by Brenda Zlamany. Photo: Brenda Zlamany</figcaption></figure>
<p><strong>After painting all these people, has it changed the way you judge character?</strong></p>
<p>I used to hitchhike everyday after high school for fun, and that’s how I became a good judge of character. I got out of school at 1 PM and I had nothing to do so I just hitchhiked till dinnertime. You put your head in the car and you look at the person’s face. You have to decide in 10 seconds whether you’ll get into that car, if it’ll be a good conversation or whether you’ll get raped or murdered. That’s good training for portraiture.</p>
<p><strong>Did your parents know?</strong></p>
<p>My parents weren’t paying attention, they had an infant at home, and I was a teenager and they didn’t notice. I was invisible to my parents.</p>
<p><strong>You got yourself into art school away from home at an early age, 14. How?</strong></p>
<p>It came out of hitchhiking. Somehow I ended up at the home of Allan Shestack of the Yale University Art Gallery. He and his wife Nancy had some Jim Dine prints, so I showed them my drawings. They were impressed and hooked me up with the Educational Center for the Arts in New Haven, and the Yale College Before College Program. I hitchhiked an hour every day to New Haven to go there, and gradually I just didn’t go home.</p>
<p><strong>You also got yourself to the San Francisco Art Institute for a summer when you were just 15. How did that come about?</strong></p>
<p>I had a fake ID that said I was 18, and I applied with it and I got in. It was a good thing that I wasn’t on my parent’s radar at that time, they would have stood in my way, and I wouldn’t have been able to get anything done.</p>
<p><strong>That’s an unusual way to start. It’s also kind of unusual to see someone working today with a camera lucida. You’ve told me they’re pretty hard to find. How did you discover it?</strong></p>
<p>I was in David Hockney’s studio in the late ‘80s when he got his camera lucida and Maurice Payne, his printer, also spontaneously gave one to me. I later heard that David wasn’t too pleased about this, and maybe felt Maurice was giving away trade secrets. I kept it in storage for years. I was curious about it but didn’t use it; I was busy with other projects. When I went to Taiwan to paint aboriginal Taiwanese people I thought to use the instrument so they could see the painting happening. I practiced before I left, and really learned to use it there.</p>
<figure id="attachment_53220" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-53220" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/bz-bradford.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-53220" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/bz-bradford-275x275.jpg" alt="Katherine Bradford holding &quot;Watercolor Portrait a Day&quot; # 7 by Brenda Zlamany. Photo: Brenda Zlamany" width="275" height="275" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/bz-bradford-275x275.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/bz-bradford-71x71.jpg 71w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/bz-bradford-150x150.jpg 150w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/bz-bradford.jpg 500w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-53220" class="wp-caption-text">Katherine Bradford holding &#8220;Watercolor Portrait a Day&#8221; # 7 by Brenda Zlamany. Photo: Brenda Zlamany</figcaption></figure>
<p><strong>What does it add to the current project? </strong></p>
<p>It’s about speed. Because you plot the points, you can go very quickly and you also cover the whole page. But you still have to redraw it and paint it, so it’s not going to give you any art. It does help shorten the phase of looking at the blank page and thinking about what to do. Still, I spend about 5 minutes with the blank page figuring out the best angle and how I want to compose it. But then immediately it’s on, and you have to move. It gets you moving very quickly and that’s really useful.</p>
<p><strong>How do you organize and choose the subjects?</strong></p>
<p>I’m only booked a week ahead. Every Sunday I panic that I haven’t gotten it all lined out. I really can’t fall behind and, so far, I haven’t. I worry about a cancellation on a day without a back-up person. There’s always someone who wants to be painted but I have to manage the schedule and set it up. The more I go into the “Watercolor Portrait a Day,” the less it becomes about the product. It’s about the ritual, about somebody sitting down and me making them comfortable, my contacting them and their response, posting it on Facebook and their friends all seeing it and commenting. The portrait is a very small part of it, but now having done so many I have more control and they’re getting better. Now I know I can do it, and I think more about what I can bring to the table, what I can learn about them and how I can say it in the portrait.</p>
<p><strong>You’re known for your portraits of men. You’ve painted Chuck Close a number of times, also David Hockney, Glenn Ligon, Alex Katz, James Siena and Leonardo Drew, just to name a few. Now with the Yale portrait, and the “Watercolor Portrait a Day” project, you’ve also painted lots of women. What are the differences?</strong></p>
<p>Before, I felt there was something about male beauty — or, let’s say male vanity — that’s more painterly. Also, I really like, and am interested in, men. But now after painting these Yale women, and having talked to so many women through the project, most of them over 40, I’ve become interested in women as they age. I don’t think we’ve looked at them enough. The next body of work will be portraits of 24 women. From the “Watercolor Portrait a Day,” I’m less afraid of dealing with the emotions of female vanity. When I post the paintings of really pretty women there are always comments that “she’s prettier in real life.” So if you’re painting someone really beautiful the portrait is never going to be good enough. We really judge women. I never wanted to take that on before.</p>
<p><strong>And the men on your radar? </strong></p>
<p>Fred Wilson — I’ve gotten really good at painting hair. I love his hair, I love his face. I think he’s a terrific artist. He’s got all the elements that I want. And I want to paint Dawoud Bey, because he’s a portraitist. He’s fabulous looking and I love to paint the portraitist. He said he would do it, but I have to get him when he’s in town. He’s amazing, and he’s a really big guy. But I also want to paint Oona in her latest phase. And I’m due for a self-portrait.</p>
<figure id="attachment_53221" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-53221" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/BrendaZlamany.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-53221" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/BrendaZlamany-275x367.jpg" alt="Brenda Zlamany with examples of her portrait paintings in her Williamsburg studio. Photo: Mary Jones, 2015" width="275" height="367" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/BrendaZlamany-275x367.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/12/BrendaZlamany.jpg 375w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-53221" class="wp-caption-text">Brenda Zlamany with examples of her portrait paintings in her Williamsburg studio. Photo: Mary Jones, 2015</figcaption></figure>
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		<title>&#8220;The Balthus of Swingers?&#8221; Glenn O&#8217;Brien on Walter Robinson</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2015 22:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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<div class="column"> <strong>This essay, originally titled &#8220;This Bud&#8217;s For You,&#8221; is one of four published in the exhibition catalogue for Walter Robinson&#8217;s career survey which was seen at the University Galleries, Illinois State University, Normal in 2014 and travels early next year to Moore College of Art &amp; Design, Philadelphia (January 23 to March 12). Other essayists are Vanessa Mielke Schulman, Charles F. Stuckey and the exhibition&#8217;s curator, Barry Blinderman. The essay appears in artcritical&#8217;s &#8220;extract&#8221; series devoted to important exhibitions by New York-based artists not scheduled to be seen in the city. There will be a book signing by the artist at Max Fish, 120 Orchard Street, New York, November 5, 6-8PM.</strong></div>
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<figure id="attachment_52398" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-52398" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/WRthreebeers.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-52398 size-full" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/WRthreebeers.jpg" alt="Walter Robinson, Three Beers, 1987. Acrylic on canvas, 36 x 48 inches. (c) Walter Robinson, courtesy of courtesy of Tops Gallery, Memphis, and the artist" width="550" height="411" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/10/WRthreebeers.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/10/WRthreebeers-275x205.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-52398" class="wp-caption-text">Walter Robinson, Three Beers, 1987. Acrylic on canvas, 36 x 48 inches. (c) Walter Robinson, courtesy of Tops Gallery, Memphis, and the artist</figcaption></figure>
<p>Walter Robinson is a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist from the Boston Globe who exposed sexual abuse by priests in the Diocese of Boston. He is also known for his musical compositions, especially his lyrical song “Harriet Tubman.” A noted radiologist, he heads the Department of Atmospheric Studies at the University of Illinois. A legendary cricketer, he is also the front man of the Jimi Hendrix tribute band, Haze of Purple. There is an elementary school named after him in Bayonne, New Jersey.</p>
<p>But THE Walter Robinson is the co-founder of the legendary by-artists- for-artists magazine, Art-Rite, and while avoiding painting he served as editor and chief reporter and critic of the online journal Artnet. He was the dryly hilarious regular correspondent on the pretense-tweaking television show, Gallery Beat, and he remains one of the toughest competitors on The Kostabi Show, Mark Kostabi’s name-the-painting cable-TV program.</p>
<p>Robinson thinks he was a contributing editor to Art in America from 1979 to 1996, but actually he is still on its masthead. As a critic and observer of the world of art, he is a paragon of educated and enlightened drollery. But all of this is window dressing. Despite all his attempts to prove otherwise, Walter Robinson is an artist.</p>
<figure id="attachment_52399" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-52399" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/robinson-perfect.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-52399 size-medium" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/robinson-perfect-275x277.jpg" alt="Walter Robinson, Picture Perfect Kill, 2012. Acrylic on canvas, 48 x 48 inches. (c) Walter Robinson, Mima and César Reyes Collection, Puerto Rico, courtesy of Dorian Grey Gallery, New York" width="275" height="277" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/10/robinson-perfect-275x277.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/10/robinson-perfect-71x71.jpg 71w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/10/robinson-perfect-150x150.jpg 150w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/10/robinson-perfect.jpg 497w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-52399" class="wp-caption-text">Walter Robinson, Picture Perfect Kill, 2012. Acrylic on canvas, 48 x 48 inches. (c) Walter Robinson, Mima and César Reyes Collection, Puerto Rico, courtesy of Dorian Grey Gallery, New York</figcaption></figure>
<p>Many of the women in his heroically romantic paintings might have appeared later in Richard Prince’s Nurse paintings, or they could be the daughters of the models seen in Mel Ramos paintings. In any case, perhaps under the influence of gin or pep pills—and Robinson has painted those kinds of intoxicants too—the pulp fiction heroines exemplified vice as virtue and sin as salvation. He also did spin artist, long before Damien Hirst, and Walter’s spin paintings are more centrifugally forceful and more evocative of the rotary LSD experience. They really set the controls for the heart of the sun.</p>
<p>A famous raconteur, Walter is known for his bon mots and so he is a much sought after speaker who will go to great lengths to disappear before reaching the podium. Last December I asked him to be part of a panel discussion on value and the art market and he accepted. When he didn’t appear on the dais I was worried but later I found that he was simply unable to tear himself away from the buffet at the event.</p>
<p>A man noted for sound and resilient appetites, Walter translates his lust for life to the canvas with verve, panache and a wit that ranges from extra dry to demi-sec. His food paintings don’t take a back seat to those of Ramos or Wayne Thiebaud. And when it comes to depictions of sheer concupiscence, his oozies are doozies, his slatterns are comfortingly slatternly, his hussies aren’t fussy and his wantons aren’t frontin’. The guy can paint and, in doing so, conjure a world so gone it never existed. Is he the Elizabeth Peyton of insensitivity? The Francis Picabia of peccadillos? The Balthus of swingers? Some of his titles, like Savage Destiny and Divine Weakness, suggest the lambently lustful nature of his visual lyricism. What does it amount to? I’ve always thought that apotheosis strikes when you least expect it.</p>
<p>The pen (or Sharpie), they still say is mightier than the sword, but with the pen and the brush combined, you’re outclassing both the blade and the bludgeon. It’s a great pleasure to see the full return engagement of an artist who has been too absent from the center of the scene, while documenting it brilliantly from the periphery with a sage and not entirely jaundiced eye. Walter returned to exhibiting when the time was right.</p>
<figure id="attachment_52400" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-52400" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/WRlotion.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-52400 size-medium" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/WRlotion-275x457.jpg" alt="Walter Robinson, Lotion, 1984. Acrylic on canvas, 60 x 36 inches. (c) Walter Robinson, courtesy of the artist" width="275" height="457" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/10/WRlotion-275x457.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/10/WRlotion.jpg 303w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-52400" class="wp-caption-text">Walter Robinson, Lotion, 1984. Acrylic on canvas, 60 x 36 inches. (c) Walter Robinson, courtesy of the artist</figcaption></figure>
<p>Fifty-six years ago Elaine de Kooning related, “Fairfield [Porter] says: ‘Why is irrelevancy so often taken for profundity?’” Walter Robinson has no truck with irrelevance. Having surveyed the eld he knows what he wants, and all claims to the contrary, he knows how to get it. He understands the humanity of art that ventures beyond the pale of chic and institutional chicanery. Relevance is perhaps the new forbidden fruit. Two decades ago this world was not ready for the full bloom of Robinson’s art, but the world has grown up and lost its prissy faux innocence. Someday soon prurience will return with a vengeance. As I once said, “an erection caused by art is no mean feat.”</p>
<p>In that spirit, rarely has a retrospective seemed so prospective. I declare that now is the time for this sort of unashamedly manly art, and for artists unafraid of riotous condiments, of smegma and sublimity, of Vaseline and gasoline, and of the explosive redolence of drool and sti es. In the bouquet of aestheticism, there are blooms and thorns, pollen and petals, but Walter Robinson, this Bud’s for you.</p>
<figure id="attachment_52401" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-52401" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/WRuglytrap.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-52401" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/WRuglytrap-275x276.jpg" alt="Walter Robinson, Ugly Trap, 1986. Enamel on canvas, 36 x 36 inches (c) Walter Robinson, courtesy of the artist" width="275" height="276" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/10/WRuglytrap-275x276.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/10/WRuglytrap-71x71.jpg 71w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/10/WRuglytrap-150x150.jpg 150w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2015/10/WRuglytrap.jpg 500w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-52401" class="wp-caption-text">Walter Robinson, Ugly Trap, 1986. Enamel on canvas, 36 x 36 inches (c) Walter Robinson, courtesy of the artist</figcaption></figure>
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		<title>The Zombies: Contemporary Abstraction and Its Critics</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Noah Dillon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2014 21:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Do the recent conversations about abstract painting miss the point?</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What&#8217;s at Stake for Abstract Painting — and Where Do We Go from Here?</em> at the Jewish Museum<br />
October 23, 2014<br />
1109 5th Avenue (between 92nd and 93rd streets)<br />
New York, 212 423 3200</p>
<figure id="attachment_44189" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-44189" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/TJM_PP_Abstraction_102314_03_760px.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-44189" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/TJM_PP_Abstraction_102314_03_760px.jpg" alt="Bob Nickas, Joanne Greenbaum, Philip Taaffe, and Stanley Whitney. Photo by Roger Kamholz, the Jewish Museum." width="550" height="386" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/10/TJM_PP_Abstraction_102314_03_760px.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/10/TJM_PP_Abstraction_102314_03_760px-275x193.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-44189" class="wp-caption-text">Bob Nickas, Joanne Greenbaum, Philip Taaffe, and Stanley Whitney. Photo by Roger Kamholz, the Jewish Museum.</figcaption></figure>
<p>At the Jewish Museum, on the night of October 23, a large crowd turned out to hear “What’s at Stake for Abstract Painting Today — and Where Do We Go from Here?” The panel featured a discussion among painters Joanne Greenbaum, Philip Taaffe, and Stanley Whitney, responding to prompts from the writer, critic, and curator Bob Nickas, who was the moderator. It was followed by questions from the audience. I showed up just moments before the program’s commencement, and after an onerous check-in process I was happy to see several friends in attendance. Nickas focused the conversation especially on young abstractionists, who he identified in his opening remarks as men born between 1980 and ’89. Other critics have likewise been eager to harp on a highly visible cadre of such boys: Parker Ito, Jacob Kassay, Lucien Smith, Oscar Murillo, David Ostrowski, Fredrik Vaerslev, and others. Their work has been given many monikers, including <a href="http://martinmugar.blogspot.com/2013/12/zombie-artthe-lingering-life-of.html">“Zombie Formalism” by Martin Mugar</a> (<a href="http://www.artspace.com/magazine/contributors/the_rise_of_zombie_formalism">subsequently popularized by the artist and critic Walter Robinson</a>), or Jerry Saltz’s minimally clearer and more incisive term, <a href="http://www.vulture.com/2014/03/saltz-on-the-great-and-powerful-simchowitz.html">“MFA-clever”</a> painting.[1]</p>
<figure id="attachment_44184" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-44184" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/LS-OW11471.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-44184" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/LS-OW11471-275x362.jpg" alt="Lucien Smith, Witch Bitch Would You Like to be Like?, 2012. Acrylic on unprimed canvas, 24 x 18 inches. © Lucien Smith. " width="275" height="362" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/10/LS-OW11471-275x362.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/10/LS-OW11471.jpg 379w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-44184" class="wp-caption-text">Lucien Smith, Witch Bitch Would You Like to be Like?, 2012. Acrylic on unprimed canvas, 24 x 18 inches. © Lucien Smith.</figcaption></figure>
<p>No artist of that cohort sat on the panel, which Nickas explained by saying, “I considered inviting some of them, but it felt like setting them up and not a good thing to do in public. They can have a panel of their own and talk about how we’re wrong or don’t understand.” Neither were any of them mentioned by name during the discussion, though images of the artists and their work (as well as the work of the panelists) were shown in a slide presentation that was paged through by Nickas mostly without commentary during the conversation. In his introductory remarks, Nickas emphasized his dislike of those artists as voguish and robotic by describing their careers as suffering a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menudo_(band)">Menudo</a> Problem: every artist as a boy band (a brand), “in a rush to be famous and therefore in a rush to be forgotten.”</p>
<p>The conversants were affable and their sharp quips were balanced with genuine acquisitiveness — an interest in what one another saw as the predominating problems and issues of contemporary painting, and seeing what insights they had gleaned from or about younger artists. Each was sure to reiterate, unequivocally, that there are younger artists they appreciate and admire. Nickas and Greenbaum were both quick to proclaim explicitly that they’re not generational.</p>
<p>Criticisms of the aforementioned youths were varied and most were well deserved, albeit delivered with what to my ear sounded tinged with a kind of &#8220;what&#8217;s wrong with the kids these days?” ageism, though perhaps I’m mistaken. Whitney and Taaffe noted that there have been bad artists in every era. Whitney offered that, “Painting changes, but not very much.” Nickas remarked that in <em>The Afternoon Interviews</em>, a series of conversations between Calvin Tomkins and Marcel Duchamp published in 1964, that many of Duchamp’s complaints are identical to those being made about today’s arts, and that “the [arts’ economic structure] has remained continuous.” Indeed, commoditization, cynicism, and repetition were perhaps as common in that era as they are today. However, Nickas went on to say that there is little similarity between today’s art market and the one Duchamp experienced a century ago: during the Armory Show, for a short time, <em>Nude Descending a Staircase, No. 2 </em>(1912) was one of the most famous and shocking new paintings in the world, after which it wasn’t displayed publicly for a very long time and Duchamp didn’t exhibit for several years. Nickas speculated that today — 50 years after Tomkins’s conversations with Duchamp, and 100 years after the first Armory Show — if a painting achieved the same level of fame it would likely be immediately repeated by the artist a dozen times over and shown as much as possible.</p>
<figure id="attachment_44181" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-44181" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/7006.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-44181" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/7006-275x183.jpg" alt="Jacob Kassay, Studio View, 2012. Acrylic and silver deposit on canvas. © Jacob Kassay." width="275" height="183" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/10/7006-275x183.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/10/7006.jpg 550w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-44181" class="wp-caption-text">Jacob Kassay, Studio View, 2012. Acrylic and silver deposit on canvas. © Jacob Kassay.</figcaption></figure>
<p>The panelists’ lamentations were primarily aimed at the mindless production-line work of those certain young artists: paintings that are churned out in large quantities, using the repetition of a few simple gimmicks. Such work is often described as conceptual, but with an abusive use of the term; this “conceptualism” conflates process and content, prioritizing the former at the latter’s expense. It typically employs expressive-like gestures, their formalism pre-slotted into a post-war art-historical genealogy. Greenbaum especially hypothesized that the young men are underformed and that their work is rushed from brainstorm to execution to market.[2]</p>
<p>The sum of all these features is decoration: canvases that are speckled or monochromatic or heavily worked into atmospheric mush or inscribed with a solitary line of colorful spray paint, pigment shot from fire extinguishers, athletic line markers, or whatever. Images that are nominally painterly, but essentially just expensive color swatches, follow not only formally but also ideologically from Abstract Expressionism, which the art historian TJ Clark lamented for its undying endurance and described as “vulgar,” the more successful for its greater vulgarity:</p>
<blockquote><p>Seen in normal surroundings, past the unobtrusive sofas and calla lilies, as part of the unique blend of opulence and spareness that is the taste of the picture-buying [bourgeoisie] of America, a good Hoffmann seems always to be blurting out a dirty secret which the rest of the décor is conspiring to keep. It makes a false compact with its destination. It takes up the language of its users and exemplifies it … For what it shows is the world its users inhabit in their heart of hearts. It is a picture of their ‘interiors,’ of the visceral-cum-spiritual upholstery of the rich. And above all it can have no illusions about its own status as part of that upholstery. It is made out of the materials it deploys. Take them or leave them, these ciphers of plenitude — they are all painting at present has to offer.[3]</p></blockquote>
<p>It should come as no surprise that Lucien Smith’s &#8220;rain paintings&#8221; resemble Pollock or that Jacob Kassay’s reflective monochromes allude to Barnett Newman or Frank Stella. Their work fulfills a nearly identical role.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vulture.com/2014/06/why-new-abstract-paintings-look-the-same.html">In a recent essay for <em>New York Magazine</em>&#8216;s Vulture blog</a>, Jerry Saltz averred that the Internet, speculators, and schools are in some way coacting to make contemporary abstraction more dull and painters more conservatively similar. (He did not hypothesize a specific mechanism or motive.) By way of example, Saltz selected more than a dozen works by the cohort in question, compiling a <em>Buzzfeed</em>&#8211; or <em>Huffington Post</em>-like slideshow. Others in the slideshow included Mark Flood and Charline von Heyl, both of whom are about a generation older than the artists in question, as well as Helene Appel, whose work is spare and minimal, but <em>trompe-l&#8217;œil</em>, except if viewed as a 200-by-300-pixel jpeg. So the definitional boundaries of abstract painting&#8217;s contemporary problem children may be up for debate, depending on the peculiar tastes of a critic, curator, or artist. Or it may simply be dependent on the particular formal affinities that make for a contemptuously banal clickbait slideshow.[4]</p>
<figure id="attachment_44187" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-44187" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Screen-Shot-2014-10-31-at-1.35.17-PM.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-44187" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Screen-Shot-2014-10-31-at-1.35.17-PM.jpg" alt="A slideshow that accompanied Jerry Saltz's &quot;Zombies on the Walls: Why Does So Much New Abstraction Look the Same?&quot; on New York Magazine's Vulture blog. Courtesy of New York Magazine." width="550" height="343" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/10/Screen-Shot-2014-10-31-at-1.35.17-PM.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/10/Screen-Shot-2014-10-31-at-1.35.17-PM-275x171.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-44187" class="wp-caption-text">A slideshow that accompanied Jerry Saltz&#8217;s &#8220;Zombies on the Walls: Why Does So Much New Abstraction Look the Same?&#8221; on New York Magazine&#8217;s Vulture blog. Courtesy of New York Magazine.</figcaption></figure>
<p>Looking through back issues of arts magazines it&#8217;s easy to find faddish similarities between artists, curatorial experiments, and even exhibition advertisements from every time prior to the web’s arrival and the market’s recent rapid growth. In the 1960s and &#8217;70s every zombified manner of grid, dash, monochrome, and unconventional canvas could be found on gallery walls and in print. Today’s scholars, critics, and curators are apparently eager to rediscover middling parishioners from the church of the grid and rectangle who have since fallen by the historical wayside. They should, and we shouldn&#8217;t be surprised if many new painters are consigned to such fates in the near and distant future. What is different about the contemporary, readily digitized era is our ability to easily index and examine a vast array of artists and their work, both past and present. Greenbaum asserted that she believes many of the young artists she speaks with are mostly looking at work that was made in the past 18 months, on their computers and at art fairs.</p>
<figure id="attachment_44185" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-44185" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/MarciaHafif_Jan01_1972.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-44185" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/MarciaHafif_Jan01_1972-275x359.jpg" alt="Marcia Hafif, January 01, 1972, 1972. Pencil on paper, 24 x 18 inches. © Marcia Hafif." width="275" height="359" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/10/MarciaHafif_Jan01_1972-275x359.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/10/MarciaHafif_Jan01_1972.jpg 383w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-44185" class="wp-caption-text">Marcia Hafif, January 01, 1972, 1972. Pencil on paper, 24 x 18 inches. © Marcia Hafif.</figcaption></figure>
<p>Perhaps even more so, as far as I can tell, a bigger problem is the profusion of superfluous rhetoric that substitutes for… uh… <em>discourse</em>. Published in <em>Triple Canopy</em> last year, Alix Rule and David Levine’s “International Art English” identified the way that fuzzy, otiose language has become the argot of arts conversations from press releases to the academy and everywhere between. The willing abrogation of critical talk to artists, consultants, and markets virtually guarantees that phony explanations will be offered in lieu of considered content, that buzzwords stand as simulacra of thought rather than leading to any idea, that every kind of nonsense is spoonfed to people willing to buy into it, and that ambiguity is prized over staking a claim.[5] That has nothing to do with the bogeymen that are more often worried over: fairs, auctions, speculators, dealers, and on and on.[6] As Nickas asserted at one point, this relatively contemporary ethos of de-skilling, and the seemingly accepted truism that anyone can be an artist, “teaches naïve people that they’re also talented.”[7] My feeling is, tangentially, that the actual sin is to try to persuade people, by way of inane jargon, that naïveté and redundancy are actually relevant.</p>
<p>Toward the end of the event, a young woman asked if the panelists still believe that a group of boys sits at the apex of contemporary painting. Nickas answered Yes, and then smirkingly added that he takes this from a good source: Philips auction catalogues.[8] I don’t know whether this is earnest or not, but the people who probably benefit most from the confusion of cultural capital with an investment strategy are investors. It would be far better, as I see it, to note that those young men are a symptom of lazy allowances for people seeking highbrow excuses to decorate their homes with banalities, and who might make a profit on later resale. Nickas quoted John Miller’s aphorism that painting is a “service industry,” which I think gets at this very problem — not a new one, nor an invention of young men painting today, and one that is propped up by rhetorical structure that acts like a Fuck You to any thinking viewer. One would hope, though, that the wizened representatives of earlier generations, some of whom have actively supported a few of these young men and their peers, can take responsibility in their laxity, and that we can as well,[9] and that perhaps we could all demand more from what we look at, calling out bullshit where it is found.</p>
<figure id="attachment_44186" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-44186" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/RRyman_untitled_1969.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-44186 size-medium" title="Robert Ryman, Untitled, 1969. Oil on fiberglass, 48.2 x 48.2 cm. Courtesy of Nordenhake Gallery." src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/RRyman_untitled_1969-275x278.jpg" alt="Robert Ryman, Untitled, 1969. Oil on fiberglass, 48.2 x 48.2 cm. Courtesy of Nordenhake Gallery." width="275" height="278" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/10/RRyman_untitled_1969-275x278.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/10/RRyman_untitled_1969-71x71.jpg 71w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/10/RRyman_untitled_1969.jpg 494w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-44186" class="wp-caption-text">Robert Ryman, Untitled, 1969. Oil on fiberglass, 48.2 x 48.2 cm. Courtesy of Nordenhake Gallery.</figcaption></figure>
<figure id="attachment_44191" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-44191" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/zappettini.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-44191 size-medium" title="Gianfranco Zappettini, Surface analytical n. 244, 1973. Acrylic on canvas and powdered quartz, 80 x 80 cm. © Gianfranco Zappettini." src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/zappettini-275x275.jpg" alt="Gianfranco Zappettini, Surface analytical n. 244, 1973. Acrylic on canvas and powdered quartz, 80 x 80 cm. © Gianfranco Zappettini." width="275" height="275" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/10/zappettini-275x275.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/10/zappettini-71x71.jpg 71w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/10/zappettini-150x150.jpg 150w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/10/zappettini.jpg 500w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-44191" class="wp-caption-text">Gianfranco Zappettini, Surface analytical n. 244, 1973. Acrylic on canvas and powdered quartz, 80 x 80 cm. © Gianfranco Zappettini.</figcaption></figure>
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<figure id="attachment_44182" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-44182" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/JG-10-PTG_HR.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-44182 size-medium" title="Joanne Greenbaum, Untitled, 2014. Oil, acrylic, flashe and graphite on canvas, 90 x 80 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Rachel Uffner Gallery." src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/JG-10-PTG_HR-275x304.jpg" alt="Joanne Greenbaum, Untitled, 2014. Oil, acrylic, flashe and graphite on canvas, 90 x 80 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Rachel Uffner Gallery." width="275" height="304" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/10/JG-10-PTG_HR-275x304.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/10/JG-10-PTG_HR.jpg 452w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-44182" class="wp-caption-text">Joanne Greenbaum, Untitled, 2014. Oil, acrylic, flashe and graphite on canvas, 90 x 80 inches. Courtesy of the artist and Rachel Uffner Gallery.</figcaption></figure>
<p>[1] Fashionable painting has begotten a fashionable dispute.</p>
<p>[2] This judgment is probably true, but is likewise applicable to earlier generations, such as Frank Stella, Richard Serra, Chuck Close and others who emerged from grad school and more or less walked straight into the gallery system. And anyway, this problem isn&#8217;t one owned by any particular party, and both the artists and galleries share in the responsibility of prematurity.</p>
<p>[3] Clark, TJ &#8220;In Defense of Abstract Expressionism.&#8221; In <em>Farewell to an Idea: Episodes from a History of Modernism</em>, 397. New Haven: Yale University Press, 1999.</p>
<p>[4] The unspoken flipside of Saltz’s critique is the equally vapid and arbitrary cheerleading promotional apparatus, including much of recent criticism. Saltz even tempers his critique with an apologia, noting that while he thinks such work is a problem, he likes the way it looks.</p>
<figure id="attachment_44188" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-44188" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/SW-14-By-The-Hudson-4942.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-44188 size-medium" title="Stanley Whitney, By the Hudson, 2014. Oil on linen, 72 x 72 inches. Courtesy of Team (Gallery, Inc)." src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/SW-14-By-The-Hudson-4942-275x278.jpg" alt="Stanley Whitney, By the Hudson, 2014. Oil on linen, 72 x 72 inches. Courtesy of Team (Gallery, Inc)." width="275" height="278" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/10/SW-14-By-The-Hudson-4942-275x278.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/10/SW-14-By-The-Hudson-4942-71x71.jpg 71w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/10/SW-14-By-The-Hudson-4942.jpg 493w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-44188" class="wp-caption-text">Stanley Whitney, By the Hudson, 2014. Oil on linen, 72 x 72 inches. Courtesy of Team (Gallery, Inc).</figcaption></figure>
<p>[5] My preferred example of this kind of thing is <a href="http://www.303gallery.com/exhibition/index.php?exhid=167&amp;p=pr">the press release for Jacob Kassay’s 2013 exhibition at 303 Gallery</a>, which is so riddled with typos and <em>non sequiturs</em> that it’s absolutely depressing that such a document can hope to explain or even entice the hundreds of thousands of dollars spent on such work.</p>
<p>[6] In fact, despite their problems, galleries have historically done a great deal to protect the artists that they represent (again, taking into consideration the disparities in who they choose to represent and other very serious crimes). And the expansion of the art market since the 1980s, while concentrating wealth among a small class of artists, collectors, and dealers, has also sparked an enormous widening of opportunities that allows for more artists, more writers, more artist-run spaces, more non-profits, marginally greater diversity, greater museum attendance, and so on.</p>
<figure id="attachment_44190" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-44190" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/WeAreNotAfraid-1985-srgb.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-44190 size-medium" title="Philip Taaffe, We Are Not Afraid, 1985. Mixed media on canvas, 120 x 102 inches. © Philip Taaffe; Courtesy of the artist and Luhring Augustine, New York." src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/WeAreNotAfraid-1985-srgb-275x321.jpg" alt="Philip Taaffe, We Are Not Afraid, 1985. Mixed media on canvas, 120 x 102 inches. © Philip Taaffe; Courtesy of the artist and Luhring Augustine, New York." width="275" height="321" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/10/WeAreNotAfraid-1985-srgb-275x321.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/10/WeAreNotAfraid-1985-srgb.jpg 428w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-44190" class="wp-caption-text">Philip Taaffe, We Are Not Afraid, 1985. Mixed media on canvas, 120 x 102 inches. © Philip Taaffe; Courtesy of the artist and Luhring Augustine, New York.</figcaption></figure>
<p>[7] About all of these phenomena and propositions I’m basically agnostic.</p>
<p>[8] In September, Nickas, with artist Ryan Foerster, released a zine made from collaged Philips catalogues, inscribed with marginalia poking fun at many of the young male artists featured therein and also discussed on the panel.</p>
<p>[9] This includes me, by the way.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 21:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Indulgence, his latest show, is on view through April 7th</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The intimate East Village gallery Dorian Grey overflowed March 1st with fans of Walter Robinson, artist and editor extraordinaire, for his new show, Indulgences. Since the demise of Artnet magazine last summer, its founder-editor has been busy in his studio. Robinson&#8217;s small fluid new paintings and gouaches celebrated pulp romance, pin-ups, quotidian comestibles, pharmaceutical sundries and booze bottles. The enthusiastic crowd included Roberta Smith, Jerry Saltz, Donald Kuspit, Rene Ricard and myriad other downtown admirers. Robinson&#8217;s recent exhibitions have been at Metro Pictures, Chicago&#8217;s Firecat Projects and Haunch of Venison.  437 East 9th Street between 1st Ave and Ave A, through April 7th.</p>
<p>Photos by Manuel Arjona</p>
<figure id="attachment_29562" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-29562" style="width: 71px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/jack.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-29562 " title=" Walter Robinson, Jack, 1997.  Watercolor on paper, 11 x 9 inches.  Courtesy of Dorian Grey Gallery" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/jack-71x71.jpg" alt=" Walter Robinson, Jack, 1997.  Watercolor on paper, 11 x 9 inches.  Courtesy of Dorian Grey Gallery" width="71" height="71" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2013/03/jack-71x71.jpg 71w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2013/03/jack-150x150.jpg 150w" sizes="(max-width: 71px) 100vw, 71px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-29562" class="wp-caption-text">click to enlarge</figcaption></figure>
<figure id="attachment_29560" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-29560" style="width: 71px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/WR-Jerry.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-29560 " title="Jeff Wright and Jerry Saltz at the opening of Walter Robinson: Indulgences, Dorian Grey Gallery, March 1, 2013.  Photo: Manuel Arjona" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/WR-Jerry-71x71.jpg" alt="Jeff Wright and Jerry Saltz at the opening of Walter Robinson: Indulgences, Dorian Grey Gallery, March 1, 2013.  Photo: Manuel Arjona" width="71" height="71" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-29560" class="wp-caption-text">Jeff Wright and Jerry Saltz</figcaption></figure>
<figure id="attachment_29561" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-29561" style="width: 71px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/WR-couple.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-29561 " title="Samantha Heaps and Luis Accorsi of Doran Grey Gallery at the opening of Walter Robinson: Indulgences, March 1, 2013.  Photo: Manuel Arjona" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/WR-couple-71x71.jpg" alt="Samantha Heaps and Luis Accorsi of Doran Grey Gallery at the opening of Walter Robinson: Indulgences, March 1, 2013.  Photo: Manuel Arjona" width="71" height="71" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-29561" class="wp-caption-text">Samantha Heaps and Luis Accorsi</figcaption></figure>
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		<title>February 2005: James Gardner, Walter Robinson, and Alexi Worth with moderator David Cohen</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Petah Coyne at Galerie Lelong and the Sculpture Centre, Diana Thater at David Zwirner and Zwirner and Wirth, James Hyde at Brent Sikkema and Cecily Brown at Gagosian</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>February 4, 2005 at the National Academy Museum and School of Fine Arts, New York</strong></p>
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<p>James Gardner, Walter Robinson, and Alexi Worth joined David Cohen to review Petah Coyne at Galerie Lelong and the Sculpture Centre, Diana Thater at David Zwirner and Zwirner and Wirth, James Hyde at Brent Sikkema and Cecily Brown at Gagosian.</p>
<figure id="attachment_8744" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-8744" style="width: 360px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/coyne.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-8744 " title="Petah Coyne, installation shot, Sculpture Center, Long Island City" src="https://artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/coyne.jpg" alt="Petah Coyne, installation shot, Sculpture Center, Long Island City" width="360" height="284" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2010/07/coyne.jpg 360w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2010/07/coyne-275x217.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 360px) 100vw, 360px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-8744" class="wp-caption-text">Petah Coyne, Installation shot, Sculpture Center, Long Island City</figcaption></figure>
<figure id="attachment_8745" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-8745" style="width: 360px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/thater.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-8745 " title="Diana Thater, installation shot, Continuous, Contiguous, David Zwirner, New York" src="https://artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/thater.jpg" alt="Diana Thater, installation shot, Continuous, Contiguous, David Zwirner, New York" width="360" height="257" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2010/07/thater.jpg 360w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2010/07/thater-300x214.jpg 300w" sizes="(max-width: 360px) 100vw, 360px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-8745" class="wp-caption-text">Diana Thater, Installation shot, Continuous, Contiguous, David Zwirner, New York</figcaption></figure>
<figure id="attachment_8747" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-8747" style="width: 267px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/hyde.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-8747 " title="James Hyde, Paragraph 2004" src="https://artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/hyde.jpg" alt="James Hyde Paragraph 2004" width="267" height="360" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2010/07/hyde.jpg 267w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2010/07/hyde-222x300.jpg 222w" sizes="(max-width: 267px) 100vw, 267px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-8747" class="wp-caption-text">James Hyde, Paragraph, 2004</figcaption></figure>
<figure id="attachment_8748" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-8748" style="width: 340px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/brown.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-8748  " title="Cecily Brown Thanks, Roody Hooster 2004, oil on linen, 103 x 97 inches" src="https://artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/brown.jpg" alt="Cecily Brown Thanks, Roody Hooster 2004, oil on linen, 103 x 97 inches" width="340" height="360" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2010/07/brown.jpg 340w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2010/07/brown-283x300.jpg 283w" sizes="(max-width: 340px) 100vw, 340px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-8748" class="wp-caption-text">Cecily Brown, Thanks, Roody Hooster, 2004, Oil on linen, 103 x 97 inches</figcaption></figure>
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