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		<title>Le Commandeur: Tribute to Alain Kirili, 1946-2021</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2021 23:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Michael Attis, Maria Mitchell, Dorothea Rockburne and Barry Schwabsky join moderator David Cohen on Zoom</p>
<p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://artcritical.com/2021/05/20/video-tribute-alain-kirili-1946-2021/">Le Commandeur: Tribute to Alain Kirili, 1946-2021</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://artcritical.com">artcritical</a>.</p>
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<p>This panel discussion, recorded the day after Alain Kirili received the insignia of Commander of the Order of Arts and Letters from the French government in his New York loft, was both a tribute to that achievement, shared with the artist at the time, and a tribute to a great friend of artcritical and a major force in contemporary sculpture marking his death earlier this week at the age of 74. The diverse job descriptions of our panelists reflect the important roles Kirili played in different spheres, as a patron of free jazz, as a scholar in the history of sculpture, as an artist and a friend. My guests are Michael Attis, musician; Maria Mitchell, dancer; Dorothea Rockburne, painter; and Barry Schwabsky, art critic, poet and editor. In addition to this video, artcritical salutes Alain Kirili with two archived posts brought to our front page: an interview with the artist from 2018 by Mary Jones (where he made an early public acknowledgement of his battle with leukemia) and a review of an exhibition of iron works from Rouen at Philadelphia&#8217;s Barnes Foundation from two years earlier.  DAVID COHEN</p>
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		<title>Podcast of October&#8217;s edition of The Review Panel</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2018 03:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>David Cohen's guests were Laila Pedro, Barry Schwabsky and Roberta Smith</p>
<p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://artcritical.com/2018/10/29/october-16th-2018-laila-pedro-barry-schwabsky-roberta-smith-moderator-david-cohen/">Podcast of October&#8217;s edition of The Review Panel</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://artcritical.com">artcritical</a>.</p>
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<p><strong>LAILA PEDRO, BARRY SCHWABSKY </strong>and <strong>ROBERTA SMITH </strong>join <strong>DAVID COHEN </strong>to discuss</p>
<figure id="attachment_79865" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-79865" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/18c64ff9a3213419fd22341c72fb5b19-e1539410809713.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-79865"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-79865" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/18c64ff9a3213419fd22341c72fb5b19-e1539410809713.jpg" alt="Frank Bowling. Courtesy of Alexander Gray Associates." width="550" height="406" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-79865" class="wp-caption-text">Frank Bowling. Courtesy of Alexander Gray Associates.</figcaption></figure>
<p>Frank Bowling: Make It New<br />
Alexander Gray Associates, 510 West 26 Street, New York <a href="http://alexandergray.com" target="_blank">alexandergray.com</a></p>
<p>Charline von Heyl: New Work<br />
Petzel, 456 West 18th Street, New York <a href="http://petzel.com" target="_blank">petzel.com</a></p>
<p>Yasumasa Morimura: In the Room of Art History<br />
Luhring Augustine Bushwick, 25 Knickerbocker Avenue, Brooklyn <a href="http://luhringaugustine.com" target="_blank">luhringaugustine.com</a></p>
<p>Pope.L: One thing after another (part two)<br />
Mitchell-Innes &amp; Nash, 534 West 26th Street, New York <a href="http://miandn.com" target="_blank">miandn.com</a></p>
<p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://artcritical.com/2018/10/29/october-16th-2018-laila-pedro-barry-schwabsky-roberta-smith-moderator-david-cohen/">Podcast of October&#8217;s edition of The Review Panel</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://artcritical.com">artcritical</a>.</p>
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		<title>The Review Panel is this Tuesday, October 16</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>David Cohen's guests are Laila Pedro, Barry Schwabsky and Roberta Smith</p>
<p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://artcritical.com/2018/09/29/review-panel-returns-october-16-laila-pedro-barry-schwabsky-roberta-smith/">The Review Panel is this Tuesday, October 16</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://artcritical.com">artcritical</a>.</p>
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<p><strong>LAILA PEDRO, BARRY SCHWABSKY </strong>and <strong>ROBERTA SMITH </strong>join <strong>DAVID COHEN </strong>to discuss</p>
<figure id="attachment_79865" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-79865" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/18c64ff9a3213419fd22341c72fb5b19-e1539410809713.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-79865"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-79865" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/18c64ff9a3213419fd22341c72fb5b19-e1539410809713.jpg" alt="Frank Bowling. Courtesy of Alexander Gray Associates." width="550" height="406" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-79865" class="wp-caption-text">Frank Bowling. Courtesy of Alexander Gray Associates.</figcaption></figure>
<p>Frank Bowling: Make It New<br />
Alexander Gray Associates, 510 West 26 Street, New York <a href="http://alexandergray.com" target="_blank">alexandergray.com</a></p>
<p>Charline von Heyl: New Work<br />
Petzel, 456 West 18th Street, New York <a href="http://petzel.com" target="_blank">petzel.com</a></p>
<p>Yasumasa Morimura: In the Room of Art History<br />
Luhring Augustine Bushwick, 25 Knickerbocker Avenue, Brooklyn <a href="http://luhringaugustine.com" target="_blank">luhringaugustine.com</a></p>
<p>Pope.L: One thing after another (part two)<br />
Mitchell-Innes &amp; Nash, 534 West 26th Street, New York <a href="http://miandn.com" target="_blank">miandn.com</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.bklynlibrary.org/calendar/review-panel-central-library-dweck-20181016" target="_blank">artcritical.com/reserve</a></p>
<p>Explore the archives: This will be <a href="https://www.artcritical.com/2017/10/11/review-panel-october-10th-dennis-kardon-lee-ann-norman-roberta-smith/">Roberta Smith</a>&#8216;s tenth appearance on The Review Panel, <a href="https://www.artcritical.com/2016/05/15/may-2016/">Barry Schwabsky</a>&#8216;s sixth, and <a href="https://www.artcritical.com/2017/11/23/december-12-jonathan-kalb-laila-pedro-christian-viveros-faune-david-cohens-guests/">Laila Pedro</a>&#8216;s second. Podcasts go back to the series&#8217; debut at the National Academy Museum in 2004 and can be accessed here at artcritical. Here are the most recent appearances of the October guests:</p>
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		<title>Jenny Saville ROUNDTABLE: Julie Heffernan, Brenda Zlamany, Dennis Kardon, Walter Robinson, Barry Schwabsky, and Suzy Spence</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2018 13:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Ancestors at Gagosian thru' June 16</p>
<p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://artcritical.com/2018/05/26/jenny-saville-roundtable/">Jenny Saville ROUNDTABLE: Julie Heffernan, Brenda Zlamany, Dennis Kardon, Walter Robinson, Barry Schwabsky, and Suzy Spence</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://artcritical.com">artcritical</a>.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>Jenny Saville: Ancestors</em>, at Gagosian Gallery, New York, on view through June 16, is the British artist&#8217;s first solo presentation in New York since 2011. She is also, concurrently, the subject of a survey exhibition at the Scottish National Gallery of Modern Art, Edinburgh. </strong></p>
<figure style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/fates-install.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-78778"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-78778 size-full" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/fates-install.jpg" alt="Installation view: Jenny Saville: Ancestors, Gagosian Gallery, New York 2018, showing, left to right, Fate 3, Fate 1, Fate 1, all 2018. Photography by Rob McKeever. Courtesy Gagosian." width="550" height="407" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/fates-install.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/fates-install-275x205.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /></a><figcaption class="wp-caption-text">Installation view: Jenny Saville: Ancestors, Gagosian Gallery, New York 2018, showing, left to right, Fate 3, Fate 1, Fate 1, all 2018. Photography by Rob McKeever. Courtesy Gagosian.</figcaption></figure>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Julie, on Facebook you described a painting by Jenny Saville on view in her show at Gagosian Gallery as &#8220;the most beautiful painting I’ve seen in a long time&#8221; and 150 friends liked or loved that post. In the comments section, Dennis Kardon wrote: &#8220;You and David Cohen are going to have an interesting discussion,&#8221; referencing no doubt my <a href="https://www.artcritical.com/2011/10/06/jenny-saville/">highly critical</a> artcritical review of her last New York show. Dennis wrote <a href="http://www.artnet.com/magazine_pre2000/features/kardon/kardon10-26-99.asp" target="_blank">enthusiastically</a> about her work in 1999 (it was his first piece of published art criticism, and was edited by Walter Robinson.) What is it about her new show, Julie that, as you put it on Facebook, &#8220;knocked you out&#8221;?</p>
<p>JULIE HEFFERNAN<br />
Up to this point I hadn’t been much of a fan of Jenny Saville’s. She’d cornered the market on paint-as-flesh, no doubt, but I never felt like she cared much about what was inside the figures she was painting, or showed us anything deeper than bloated, mottled and dejected skin. But several paintings in her latest Gagosian show blew those notions away and stopped me in my tracks. Her <em>Fate</em> paintings (<em>Fate 1, Fate 2 </em>and <em>Fate 3</em>) went somewhere I didn’t expect – melding abstraction and figuration in a way that furthered the scope of both, and bringing black bodies and white bodies together into new-fangled icons through muscular paint and sheer pictorial power. To my mind these paintings raised the bar on figuration, and that’s rare.</p>
<p>Painterly stylishness had limited Saville up until now, but in these <em>Fate</em> paintings I’m not as conscious of her style as much as her intelligent pictorial choices that give me the sense that she’s gone beyond realism (or expressionism) towards the iconic. Where before she would mask out areas in order to break up the integrity of the figure, and thereby sidestep realism, now she’s using those masked areas to complicate the figure’s integrity, suggest the mess inside, or alternatively provide it with extra appendages to increase its capacity to express multiplicities.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
Maybe because of the peculiar emptiness the ugliness in earlier work seemed manipulative. Many of these new paintings stopped me in my tracks! The scale, color, content and play with abstraction are exciting and original. They refer to so many different things but they&#8217;re entirely their own.</p>
<p>This is the first show of hers, I should say, that I&#8217;ve had a positive response to. I&#8217;m a big fan of abject beauty: I taught myself to paint by viewing cadavers in the medical school and a boyfriend even moved out on me because of the pig&#8217;s head (and a few other specimens) in the freezer. I adore Soutine’s still life paintings, Rembrandt&#8217;s sides of beef and Lucian Freud&#8217;s paintings of Lee Bowery. While I was impressed by the scale, and of course the paint handling, her previous paintings for the most part have seemed ugly in a calculated or gratuitous way.</p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON<br />
Almost twenty years ago I wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Saville simply overwhelms the viewer with paint as flesh. The specificity of her subject matter raises issues about the nature of spontaneity and control in painting. And because these bodies are painted, and therefore inhabited by the artist&#8230;they don’t have the distanced quality of the photographic work of other artists who have dealt with body image and gender issues.</p></blockquote>
<p>As her career progressed however, I became gradually disenchanted with what I perceived as strategic employment of painting conventions that started to feel a bit rote, and an increase in scale for the sake of filling up a mega space. David’s review, though a bit scathing, generally captured my feeling about what had occurred in her work.</p>
<p>My remark about the discussion was a reference to a chance encounter with David and Barry in Chelsea after first seeing the current show. My immediate reaction was that she had redeemed herself a lot, and I had taken a lot of detail shots of memorable moments. But David was so negative it made me reconsider, until at least, he compared her unfavorably to Tracey Emin at Frieze which I am pretty sure was an unmitigated waste of perfectly nice white walls.</p>
<figure id="attachment_78779" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-78779" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Vis-and-Ramin-I..jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-78779"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-78779" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Vis-and-Ramin-I..jpg" alt="Jenny Saville, Vis and Ramin I, 2018. Oil on canvas, 98-1/2 x 137-7/8 inches. © Jenny Saville. Photography by Mike Bruce. Courtesy Gagosian." width="550" height="392" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/Vis-and-Ramin-I..jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/Vis-and-Ramin-I.-275x196.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-78779" class="wp-caption-text">Jenny Saville, Vis and Ramin I, 2018. Oil on canvas, 98-1/2 x 137-7/8 inches. © Jenny Saville. Photography by Mike Bruce. Courtesy Gagosian.</figcaption></figure>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
If it’s beauty, it’s beauty of an abject kind, which has always been her thing — heavy models, grossly presented. A rather ugly beauty, I would say. Lisa Yuskavage is a good pendant here. Beauty also lies in her mastery of an academic drawing style, which recalls a 19th-century formula in service to a classical ideal. Those are her avant-garde bona fides, the rehabilitation of an essentially conservative technique for subjects of contemporary relevance, notably the body and gender identity.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
I&#8217;m the opposite of Julie and Brenda in that I&#8217;ve always been interested in Saville&#8217;s paintings, and sometimes like them quite a lot. People always used to compare her to Freud, and I understand why, but to me that was the wrong analogy. She was more like Anselm Kiefer—I mean the really good Kiefer, the one from the 1980s. The body was to her as the landscape to him. I didn&#8217;t find his wounded landscapes ugly, nor the tormented paint by which he depicted it, and I never found her abject bodies or her storms of paint ugly either—quite the opposite. But I didn&#8217;t care for these new paintings at all. I don&#8217;t like the self-evident &#8220;painting of collage&#8221; trope, and she seems to be drawing in a more conventional way as well as being more restrained in her paint handling.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
It’s interesting that you compare her earlier work to Kiefer. I agree, they are more Kiefer than Freud because her figures have little physiological content. They were all surface, same as Kiefer. And same as Kiefer, you think they’re about something else and then discover that they’re equally empty.</p>
<p>JULIE HEFFERNAN<br />
It might be worthwhile to keep the discussion to the three <em>Fate</em> paintings since I agree with you all about the other works in the show, but thought those three <em>Fates</em> were of a different order altogether.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
A generous reading is a good thing. It reminds me of Richard Prince’s goofy brilliant combos of de Kooning and gay porn.</p>
<p>Julie is certainly right about the paint-as-flesh thing, but sections of these works were basically deft contour drawings filled in with even defter Ab-Ex-style brushwork. Interesting, but a bit silly?</p>
<p>I didn’t even notice the race thing, since I was only there a few minutes, and the overwhelming impression is pink. (An artist works for a year on a show; a critic walks in and after two minutes says “it sucks.”) But I’ll go right now to take another look. What about her pseudo-cubist figures? There’s a new move.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
I went back yesterday for a proper visit after coming to a comparable conclusion to Walter from two minutes at the opening reception, and I&#8217;m afraid that closer examination and doing my utmost to sit openly with the work has not led to epiphanies. I find these to be disingenuous academic machines. Look, there is no question that Jenny Saville has exceptional technical abilities and genuine intellectual ambition, but I suspect that the adulation that has followed from these rare qualities has been corrupting. Her early work married painting chops and youthful feminist indignation to produce startling, if shallow, results, but she has &#8220;matured&#8221; into a shameless crowd pleaser. I can&#8217;t believe such sensitive individuals as the artists here aren&#8217;t seeing the wood for the trees. Photos have been projected onto canvases and lines traced; paint has been slathered in gratuitous faux-expressivity to generate effects; images have been chopped up to connote visual deconstruction. But there&#8217;s no real drawing, painting or collage going on in these concoctions.</p>
<p>JULIE HEFFERNAN<br />
Well as a painter I was respectfully floored by that piling up of paint, plus wiping, scraping, knowing when to stop and when to pile more on.  That&#8217;s not easy!  In her earlier work I knew exactly how she made those paintings, but this new work is so layered and the decisions about when to stop and when to keep going so seamlessly articulated &#8211; that&#8217;s amazing painting.  You try it!</p>
<p>As for David’s contention that there is no real drawing going on &#8211; look at <em>Fate 2</em>  and the deft placement of that thick blue line forming a square right in the middle of the figure, and what it’s doing to cause the whole assortment of body parts to pivot around it. It’s doing so many things: It’s the thing that allows the icon to be both passive and active, asserting the power of that body to suggest a kind of centrifugal movement of becoming, while also exuding a marmoreal presence; it’s also reinforcing the presence of the left breast, now lost to scraping and turned into negative space. That one squiggly line comes totally out of the blue (as it were) but is doing so much to power up the form and reinforce this idea of multiplicities.</p>
<p>Regarding the black and white bodies: Yes, she pulled it off! She deftly insinuated a white body into (onto) a black body, and vice versa. In one, the white body is in the middle of black limbs, (all the heads are either of black women or, in the case of <em>Fate 3</em>, from an African sculpture of a woman) but not overwhelming them or dominating in any way—they’re both equally present in the form. In <em>Fate 3</em> the &#8220;limbs&#8221; are more like weird appendages that take the form to places I&#8217;ve never seen Saville go. She’s forged an icon of a black and white Shiva-like woman with the many limbs. Glorious!</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
I feel you David but is it really fair to presume success has gone to her head? Artists are always having things in their heads, and success breeds confidence and ambition, etc. And what is “real” painting, drawing and collage, and why privilege it? Collage is giving new energy to abstract painting at the moment, why not figuration?</p>
<figure id="attachment_78780" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-78780" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/install-pieta-nochlin-thread.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-78780"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-78780 size-full" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/install-pieta-nochlin-thread.jpg" alt="Installation view: Jenny Saville: Ancestors, Gagosian Gallery, New York 2018, showing, left to right, Blue Pieta, 2018; Chapter (For Linda Nocholin), 2016-2018; Thread, 2017-2018. Photography by Rob McKeever. Courtesy Gagosian." width="550" height="290" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/install-pieta-nochlin-thread.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/install-pieta-nochlin-thread-275x145.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-78780" class="wp-caption-text">Installation view: Jenny Saville: Ancestors, Gagosian Gallery, New York 2018, showing, left to right, Blue Pieta, 2018; Chapter (For Linda Nocholin), 2016-2018; Thread, 2017-2018. Photography by Rob McKeever. Courtesy Gagosian.</figcaption></figure>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
You admire her bravura technique, but what is the project at the service of which she puts it? To me, the equations she makes between different kinds of representation and different kinds of abstraction, as well as between different kinds of imagery, seem pretty flat and familiar.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
That’s such a weird question, Barry, “what is the project at the service of which she puts it?” Put the question aside and approach them more visually. There’s a lot of pleasure to be had and for that might to enough.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Pleasure is never enough.</p>
<p>Julie, I don&#8217;t doubt that the pyrotechnics here take bravura and acumen to pull off. But really, we at Gagosian Gallery looking at massive canvases by an international art star for sale at top dollar; it is the painterly equivalent of a Hollywood blockbuster. If the movie sucks we don&#8217;t applaud the music and special effects.</p>
<p>Walter is right that one should indeed use any device that works if the result is a powerful image. But “real drawing” is where the lines are put down with purpose, where the energy is one of inquiry and/or assuredness. Her line is gimmicky. She generates false <em>pentimenti </em>to make the drawing look &#8220;old masterly&#8221;. Her paint slathering is like pushing a button in Photoshop marked &#8220;AbEx&#8221;; they don&#8217;t come out of the existential maelstrom of creativity. Her collage is saying, we are made up of this and that; real collage is about opening oneself up to the marvelous and the unknown.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
It&#8217;s interesting that you and I, David—the two non-practitioners here—are much less sympathetic to these paintings than the painters here. That&#8217;s something that makes me think I should reconsider my response— though I still don&#8217;t know how!</p>
<p>SUZY SPENCE<br />
It’s interesting to me that in her piece dedicated to Linda Nochlin is sort of squirreled away in the back, when Nochlin’s ideas should operate as the catalyst for the entire show. Ancestors, yes, Saville seems obsessed with the problematic of “genius”, but rather than destroy that concept she’d rather run a race with every great man who made a mark in the Western canon to see how she measures up. She paints extraordinarily well, but that’s actually beside the point. <em>Chapter (for Linda Nochlin) </em>in charcoal on cotton duck canvas, recalls the particularly beautiful study by da Vinci, The Virgin and Christ with St. Anne. But Leonardo’s women are locked in high-minded, existential conversation and seem incredibly connected to one another whereas Saville’s women are piled on one another anonymously, beautifully drawn as forms with a fullness and accuracy. But I don’t understand who these women are, and why we should care about them.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
I guess I should now take back what I just said about the critics vs. the painters.</p>
<p>SUZY SPENCE<br />
And I agree with David about special effects. Nicole Eisenman steals more effectively and is just as nimble a virtuoso. By comparison I would say Saville is a mannerist, and less able to fully employ the styles she robs, at least not in this show.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
The thing that I found especially irritating about the piece Suzy is talking about, <em>Chapter (For Linda Nochlin), </em>is the way she spray painted trompe l&#8217;oeil extra sheets at various junctures in emulation of Frank Auerbach (another of her early mentors) who sticks extra paper on when he wants to extend an image or repair a support punctured by incessant correction. There&#8217;s no correction here; the image is totally calculated, along with its arsenal of effects.</p>
<p>SUZY SPENCE<br />
Brenda, I never think beautiful paint is enough. Press releases in recent years try too hard to align her with a list of great (dead) white men, which must be some incredible weight for her to bear. I wish Saville would make an escape to the woods where she could return to the introspection she’d invested in earlier. She used to reach into her soul and hand it to us, but I’m not seeing that now.</p>
<figure id="attachment_78781" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-78781" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Fate-1.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-78781"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-78781 size-medium" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Fate-1-275x297.jpg" alt="Jenny Saville, Fate 1, 2018. Oil on canvas, 102-3/8 x 94-1/2 inches © Jenny Saville. Photography by Mike Bruce. Courtesy Gagosian." width="275" height="297" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/Fate-1-275x297.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/Fate-1.jpg 463w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-78781" class="wp-caption-text">Jenny Saville, Fate 1, 2018. Oil on canvas, 102-3/8 x 94-1/2 inches © Jenny Saville. Photography by Mike Bruce. Courtesy Gagosian.</figcaption></figure>
<p>JULIE HEFFERNAN<br />
The so-called project she is serving in these three paintings seems to be of the utmost importance right now, post Dana Schutz and even vis a vis Kara Walker&#8217;s show where so many black bodies were made to look as foolish in places as the white bodies looked malign. These <em>Fates</em> are proud bodies and full of fluid possibilities.  I always thought the real reason Dana&#8217;s Emmett Till painting didn&#8217;t work ultimately was because it wasn&#8217;t painted well enough, with the kind of weird surprising paint and drawing that, for instance, her Michael Jackson painting had. We&#8217;re not here to go over Schutz again, but it was really interesting to see someone with such good intentions fail so miserably at trying to bridge the race gap, whereas here now with these <em>Fate</em> paintings no one is making any noise at all about a white artist&#8217;s right to depict a black body. That&#8217;s an <em>important project</em>, Barry</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
The problem with Schutz’s <em>Open Casket</em> is that it was decorative to the point of insulting the viewer. I remember at the Whitney opening noticing the painting from the corner of my eye and registering it as an attractive painting but having no feeling for the subject whatsoever. There was nothing about it visually that hinted at the horror of the content. I don’t want to say it lacked empathy but to take a horrifying event and turn it into attractive paint is bad painting at best.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
Making no noise is a great accomplishment? I don&#8217;t think so. When the conflict blew up over the Sam Durant sculpture at the Walker, I was surprised when I read that it been exhibited at Documenta, because I&#8217;d seen and written about that Documenta and didn&#8217;t remember the piece. I read back over what I&#8217;d written and confirmed that I hadn&#8217;t mentioned it. Then I got curious, and read all the other Documenta reviews I could find online. Not a single one mentioned Durant&#8217;s sculpture. That didn&#8217;t make me think it was harmless in Germany but volatile in Minnesota. It made me think that the piece was so mediocre no one felt obliged to think about it— until a different context focused a different kind of attention on it. I guess Saville, being British, won&#8217;t be included in the next Whitney Biennial, but if she were, there might be some interesting responses. Oh, and by the way, Dana&#8217;s Emmett Till painting is a very good work.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Saville isn&#8217;t depicting a black body directly, but an African carving. The flesh montaged over the fetish is Caucasian, as best one can tell—or race is at any event not axiomatic. The incorporation of the carving recalls David Salle to me. These <em>Fates</em> are interesting images. But can we get past white-woman-painting-black-people silliness and just ask what it means, what it is really saying?</p>
<p>JULIE HEFFERNAN<br />
<em>Fate 3 </em>and <em>Fate 2</em> have heads of black women; they&#8217;re not carvings. And what they’re really saying is totally prosaic when put into words: “out of all these multiplicities we&#8217;re also one.” How boring is that when distilled down to mere words. But that&#8217;s where the art comes in – she’s created a medley of fluid bodies and I revel in it! I <em>so</em> appreciate when an artist takes on big themes, unwieldy problems, and does it unstintingly, and more importantly, without <em>irony</em>! And Barry, you cannot just claim the Schutz <em>Open Casket</em> is a good painting without saying why.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
Suzy, I don&#8217;t think she was reaching into her soul in the earlier works and they were not beautiful. By putting aside the content of the previous work and focusing on the excitement of the paint, I think she has a chance of saying something less calculated and more authentic and in the end, more ambitious. I agree with David though, the drawing is a bit flat.</p>
<p>David Salle is a good comparison, and not just because of the African carving, but also because of the random layering of images. When I made etchings with David, we would print the plates, each with different images on them in various combinations until something happened. When they worked, they worked. But we were not asking what they were saying.</p>
<figure id="attachment_19344" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-19344" style="width: 251px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Propped.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-19344"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-19344" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Propped-251x300.jpg" alt="Jenny Saville, Propped, 1992. Oil on Canvas, 213.5 x 183cm. The Saatchi Collection, London" width="251" height="300" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2011/10/Propped-251x300.jpg 251w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2011/10/Propped.jpg 360w" sizes="(max-width: 251px) 100vw, 251px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-19344" class="wp-caption-text">Jenny Saville, Propped, 1992. Oil on Canvas, 213.5 x 183cm. The Saatchi Collection, London</figcaption></figure>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Salle is a formalist to his fingertips; they &#8220;worked&#8221; because they clicked into something startling and satisfying in equal measure, no doubt. But Saville isn&#8217;t a formalist. She&#8217;s always been interested in themes. I take issue with the dismissal of her early work &#8211; the fat self-portrait in Propped and the liposuction paintings. They were totally authentic in the personal and political urgency of their issues and persuasive in marrying painterly marvel and bodily discomfort.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
Thank you, David. I agree with what you say about Saville’s earlier work!</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Dennis assumes, incorrectly, that I must have been joking in finding Tracey Emin&#8217;s figuration more convincing than Saville’s. I think both artists, in their latest works, are dealing with the body through mark making. Both are mannerists, but Emin is served well by restricting herself to mannerisms of abstract expressionism. She was channeling Roger Hilton, an English abstract painter who struggled with &#8211; and exploited &#8211; alcohol addiction in his figurative experiments. There&#8217;s plenty to fault in Emin&#8217;s results but it is a kind of escape to the woods, in Suzy&#8217;s sense, that Saville isn&#8217;t up for.</p>
<p>SUZY SPENCE<br />
Brenda, her early paintings seemed distinctly feminist to me and feminist artists are <em>Man Repellers</em> by nature. In her early work there was no willingness to please; she wanted to repel you with her fleshy body and suck you in with her painting technique at the same time. That tension no longer exists, and so the work is flat as Barry says.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
Julie’s mention of Schutz is apt since Dana especially activates the decorative quality of her paint strokes, which are little masterpieces in themselves. In the meantime, objections to these works because of an absence of “soul” is, well, <em>retardataire</em> and romantic. Postmodernism is about a human world without such constructions. Some viewers prefer the art without the mystification! Do we look for “soul” in Salle or Sherman, for instance?</p>
<p>SUZY SPENCE<br />
Well then you should love this work Walter! It’s perfectly postmodern and cold.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
Not cold enough by a long shot! The depiction of faces in particular seemed to invite empathy in a really blatant way. And how sentimental the use of the pietà idea!</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Yeah, especially that schlocky pietà of a guy coming out of a war zone with a sexed-up infant in his arms, pure pompier.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
Wish I hadn’t seen that one.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
To return to Walter’s question, Salle and Sherman spare us any quest for &#8220;soul&#8221; because of their knowingly constructed style. Their tropes arrive and function intact. Saville isn&#8217;t deconstructing anyone else&#8217;s technique at this stage, she is merely tapping into effects. I agree with Julie that they are free of irony. They are anything but art about art, which is why their mannerisms are all the more egregious.</p>
<p>JULIE HEFFERNAN<br />
Yes she has a lot of effects in this show but towards a more interesting end than in earlier shows she&#8217;s had. Would you consider the wings and appendages in <em>Fate 3</em> to be mere &#8220;effects&#8221;? Because to me those are essential components of the structure of the work, acting boldly to move it in space, to suggest hybridity and composite bodies, all necessary for the bigger project at hand.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
By wings to you mean the smudged arcs over the left shoulder of the amalgamated figure? I am reading drawing on a wall in the studio (pace the baseboard behind the pedestal) that serves the functional purpose of saying that the figure is an artificial studio-bound creation.</p>
<p>JULIE HEFFERNAN<br />
I mean the chair-like appendage (in <em>Fate 3</em>) attached to her shoulder to the right, and the lobster claw shape to the left — those are essential components to the icon’s whole structure. The smudges behind the form just reinforce the integrity of the overall monolithic shape she’s trying to create. Notice also how the big strokes of yellow paint within the big reddish brown shape to the bottom right reinforces the horizontal ankle attached to the foot, that is also another pedestal for the icon, as well as a pivot point for the whole structure above, and also causes the mars red shape to turn in space, and thereby shift the plane of that shape from horizontal to vertical, like a chair. So it’s a multiplicity of things – a chair-like thing, a cape-like thing, a drooping wing-like thing: super interesting!</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON (from the Gallery)<br />
Standing in front of the paintings, my second look, I have to say they’re awesome. The sense of play is overwhelming — the artist in the studio, making pictures one at a time, doing this and that — a big hand expertly tendered here, some scratchy Twomblyesque marks there, a witty pose overall — amusing herself, pleasing herself — it’s just so good — artists have an alibi, all they really have to do is represent the individual subject, not be the World Shaper.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
Wow, great Walter! But what about the pietàs? Blue Pietà is icky in an Odd Nerdrum way.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
I wish we could be having this discussion in front of the paintings.</p>
<p>But I want to go back to something said a little while back and register the fact that I don&#8217;t understand the idea of saying one artist is a formalist and another is something else. A combination that works for David Salle is one that conveys a certain feeling, I think. Why is that &#8220;formalism&#8221;? What made Saville&#8217;s earlier paintings work for me were formal aspects— these conveyed her themes in ways that worked for me. The themes without the forms wouldn&#8217;t have done that.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
That’s an important point, Barry.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
Somehow, David, I don’t think they’re projected. If they are, she’s definitely unparalleled at it.</p>
<p>How a viewer sees these things is totally parti pris. They can seem kitsch or heartfelt. You know the head in the pieta is a <em>kouros</em>. And four-armed dead body carried from the ruins by the chap in Seventh Seal garb is too clean by half. Other works look like her friends posing nude together — warm and real, and a real subject. In the end, she’s an artist; she can do what she wants, and the hell with piffle from the critics!</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
Hear! Hear!</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Hmm. Well, I certainly don&#8217;t like to project moral outrage at any means employed if the results are convincing.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
These people&#8230;</p>
<figure id="attachment_78784" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-78784" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/walter-delos.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-78784"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-78784" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/walter-delos-275x367.jpg" alt="Jenny Saville, Delos, 2017-18. Detail, photographed by Walter Robinson" width="275" height="367" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/walter-delos-275x367.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/walter-delos.jpg 375w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-78784" class="wp-caption-text">Jenny Saville, Delos, 2017-18. Detail, photographed by Walter Robinson</figcaption></figure>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
OK, well let&#8217;s talk about that scribble in and underneath. What is it trying to say? Are these automata from Westworld and this is the machinery where their viscera should be? I don&#8217;t think so. Did she do some scribble underneath to get her juices flowing, and then started her beaux arts painting on top of that and then Gagosian came and whisked the picture off before she could finish it? No, this is effect. a way of saying this is a contemporary painting, not the academic, anachronistic figure painting it would otherwise look to be, because squiggles are modern. That&#8217;s mannerism at its worst to me. But if someone could offer me a reading of the use of this device that energizes their understanding of the image, I&#8217;m all ears.</p>
<p>SUZY SPENCE<br />
Walter and David, I don’t think they are projected onto canvas. I imagine an athletic event that called for giant easels and enough space and light to study her subjects who she actually asked to recline on pedestals and chairs. I think she’s working from life; I imagine a string of models, most of whom appear in her studio the way actors come in for an audition. I sense she doesn’t know many of them, as there is such similarity of body type and age, like she&#8217;d advertised the project on Craig’s List. People in their late 30s, some black, mostly white. My favorite piece was Vis and Ramen I, who are both in recline like Manet’s Olympia. They sink deeper into their pedestal than her other subjects, their genitals almost touch, and I was fascinated by her decision not to establish that contact.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
Suzy, I don’t think that’s true. In the 2003 press release from her <em>Migrants</em> show it mentions that she prefers to work from photographs rather than living models. “Saville calls herself a scavenger of images.” Her studio is a repository of images from old medical journals of bruises, scars, images of deformities and disease. In this sense her relationship with her subject matter is more Salle then Soutine or Freud and it’s evident in this newer work.</p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON (returning to the conversation)<br />
Sorry to weigh in so late. I got sidetracked.</p>
<p>Although I am sure she couldn’t possibly be working from life, even twenty years ago I was unsure how she got from the photo to the canvas, though now it seems obvious computers are involved. Even then Saville seemed to challenge the improvisational constraints of either grid or projector. Both then and now the paint seemed spontaneously slapped on, but without the flatness of most paintings made from projected photographs. It is what makes them look so contemporary. They have all they dynamics of spontaneous paint handling, and the specific sureness without any of the uncertainty of where to put the paint. Something that Walter, can surely attest to. But though it would certainly indicate a super human talent if they were painted from life, I think it hardly matters conceptually how she manages to accomplish her paintings.</p>
<p>I think beauty, abject or otherwise, takes us nowhere productive.</p>
<p>Barry squarely solves the problem with his question about content, because this kind of analysis is the error that takes us away from what is actually happening in the paintings. This what has confused me. I will look at the paintings and be totally taken in, and even studying the details, I am amazed at the frisson between spontaneity and specificity. Then I get home and try to answer analytical questions about “to what end” and the project starts to fall apart. Walter had the perfect response, he was dismissive at first, in his critical self, but when his painter self went to study them again, was impressed.</p>
<p>I have to say when all is said and done, in all probability the details are stronger than the sum of their parts. They direct us to considerations of emotions that are constructed out of touch, rather than conception. I think David Salle is an apt referent, but because of the authenticity of the paint, they do not have the distance and irony of Salle, who does (a la David Cohen) see paint as a mere illustration of itself.</p>
<figure style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/kardon-saville.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-78785"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-78785" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/kardon-saville-275x367.jpg" alt="Jenny Saville, Fate 1, 2018. Detail, photograph by Dennis Kardon" width="275" height="367" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/kardon-saville-275x367.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/kardon-saville.jpg 375w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption class="wp-caption-text">Jenny Saville, Fate 1, 2018. Detail, photograph by Dennis Kardon</figcaption></figure>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Dennis and Walter prove that you can make better images by photographing bits of Jenny Saville than Jenny Saville can in a completed canvas.</p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON<br />
This is where we disagree David, I don’t sense those “scribbles&#8221; are supposed to have meaning in the representation sense, but in the sense of trying to marry an arbitrary spontaneity with a mark making that is directed to represent stuff and break down the moment when one kind of gesture transitions into another. As Walter mentioned, Manet could do this flawlessly on all levels, no one has been able to attain that complexity since (except Matisse, but in a different way).</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
In spite of the authenticity of the paint, I think one can still judge the work with the same criterion that one might apply to Salle, and they’re better that way. Besides, I never felt much emotion in her touch.</p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON<br />
The emotion is not in the touch itself but the construction of what the touch conveys. Like the hand touching the leg. It’s in the economy of gesture, and specificity of the shape of the mark. Manet is what the ideal looks like, but again, old fashioned compared to contemporary issues of representation and scale:</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
I wonder what&#8217;s contemporary about painting on a huge scale, considering the fact that we actually process images on small screens in this era, and outside of art galleries and museums have very few sacred and civic spaces in which we look at large oil paintings. Saville&#8217;s command of size is certainly impressive, but what value does blown up charcoal drawing convey, beyond the acrobatics of its delivery?</p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON<br />
I have been concerned with your willingness to demean what Saville does by cavalierly referring to “acrobatics” or “blown up charcoal drawing” when what I, Walter, and others in the discussion have constantly pointed out is thought in action. The whole point of painting is confronting the physicality of an image in the world and its relationship to the body of the viewer. How it metamorphoses as it is approached, the scale of a mark to one’s own body as an image breaks apart upon close inspection. It is why the overall conception, as seen as a coherent image is so up in the air in this work. It is easy to use language to name and then devalue, but I think what is really good about Saville is that she seems to be constantly trying to go beyond any singular idea or conception.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
Many of our pros and cons show how easy it is to marshall any kind of argument against any kind of thing, especially with aesthetics. Why not praise Saville’s works for going counter to digital socialization, for instance?</p>
<p>You could also say that she graffitied her own work so the taggers won’t have to.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
You&#8217;re right! and of course the opposite is true too, if you are good with words you can use them to make any old thing sound good or interesting. I would really like to be convinced to like these paintings but it&#8217;s not quite happening.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
This person — so nutty!</p>
<figure id="attachment_78786" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-78786" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/walter-saville.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-78786"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-78786" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/walter-saville-275x367.jpg" alt="Jenny Saville, Vis and Ramin II, 2018. Detail, photograph by Walter Robinson" width="275" height="367" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/walter-saville-275x367.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/walter-saville.jpg 375w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-78786" class="wp-caption-text">Jenny Saville, Vis and Ramin II, 2018. Detail, photograph by Walter Robinson</figcaption></figure>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Really? I don&#8217;t see the person as nutty at all. It is a very nice, respectable old-fashioned 19th-century painting done after a photograph of a woman over which the artist has inscribed some red dashes and black hatching. Half the students in the New York Academy of Art MFA show that opened last week could have knocked out that head, though none of them would have done the dashes on top</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
That would be the first thing they&#8217;d try <em>after</em> leaving the Academy.</p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON<br />
There is no NYAA grad student (or few painters anywhere really) that could accomplish what she has accomplished.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
Yeah, you overestimate the skills of the NYAA grads. And you object to the random marks? It’s all marks, at any rate, and they’re nutty in the way they’re deployed — since Manet painters have toyed with the codes of representation of facial features. But we all use the codes — Saville just keeps to the academic conventions more than most. Still, there’s play, and I think it works.</p>
<p>As for the rest of the chazerai, it’s functioning in several ways, as we all know. Animates the surface. Stands in for entrails. Enlivens the academic figuration. Represents the triumph of humanism over abstraction (as Donald Kuspit might argue).</p>
<p>My original reaction was that the marriage of academic and modernist elements was a failure. I like my quotations clean and unfussed with, generally. But then I decided I didn’t care.<br />
BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
This one is much ‘nuttier’.</p>
<figure id="attachment_78787" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-78787" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/brenda-saville.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-78787"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-78787 size-medium" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/brenda-saville-275x367.jpg" alt="Jenny Saville, Vis and Ramin II, 2018. Detail, photograph by Brenda Zlamany" width="275" height="367" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/brenda-saville-275x367.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2018/05/brenda-saville.jpg 375w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-78787" class="wp-caption-text">Jenny Saville, Vis and Ramin II, 2018. Detail, photograph by Brenda Zlamany</figcaption></figure>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
As a detail, it does look pretty yummy. But is there a painting in the show that does that as a whole?</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Nuts being the operative word, Brenda. But isn&#8217;t this just the trope of unfinish? We are to read the (oilstick?) marks underneath as an armature, and then some figure bits are in grisaille, and the testes are then nicely worked up with shadows in place, behaving properly. The whole concoction is saying, I&#8217;m an old master, I&#8217;ve got the chops</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
That might all be true, David. But as Barry says, it’s still ‘yummy’. And I think the red dashes are good in this passage. Why not just enjoy it? And I think the <em>Fate</em> paintings do it as a whole.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Brenda: You misread Barry I think. He&#8217;s saying there are lots of corners of pictures that are appealing in their dispatch, but the overall images don&#8217;t convince. If you follow the curate&#8217;s way of eating eggs you&#8217;ll end up in the emergency ward.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
Ha!</p>
<p>SUZY SPENCE<br />
Much as I love her ambition, I really wish she’d find new artists with whom she’d like to be compared. The genius thing needs to go.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
Like if she started channeling Florine Stettheimer? That would really throw an interesting money wrench into things.</p>
<p>SUZY SPENCE<br />
Yes it would.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
What about the scarlet skewed halo? That’s new. Also, relative to the notion that this stuff is familiar and tired, don’t forget she totally owns this niche.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
I think she has some competition, actually: Odd Nerdrum, Adrian Ghenie, others whose names I didn&#8217;t feel a need to remember. There is a big market for this kind of thing, especially beyond the Urals.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
Odd Nerdrum is almost completely detached from modern painting. But Ghenie and some of the other Romanians do have more in common with her—maybe also some of the Dresden school. But none of them have this fascination with the corporeal, which is what&#8217;s made Saville&#8217;s best work so compelling.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Cecily Brown at her best marries paint and flesh more convincingly, though neither of them is Rubens</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
I hate Rubens, except for the small studies.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
OK, enjoy Jenny Saville then.</p>
<p><em>By this stage, Julie Heffernan and Suzy Spence have signed off.</em></p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON<br />
I need to interject another issue which seems new in this work. It seems she is taking a piece of sculptural representation and trying through paint to capture the living aspect of what the sculpture was originally trying to represent. The bringing of the visceral to the constructed has always been her territory, and she is now trying to expand on the ways signifiers of bodies moving and being represented in the world convey actual feeling. And she is really trying to break it down brushstroke by brushstroke so that it is totally appropriate to focus on the details of moments in her paintings where she is getting her hands dirty. I don’t even know if we can evaluate the total effect of these paintings yet. That’s their provocative moment. This whole discussion of how the micro becomes macro is not just a trendy concept. It is crucial to how we move and represent in the world, and the heatedness of the discussion reflects the divides she is trying to bridge. Anything that provokes this much disagreement must be elucidating something important.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
I think we are all agreed that the <em>Fates</em> series attempts and achieves something new and substantial, and is the highlight of the show (yummy details notwithstanding).</p>
<p>These composite images remind me strongly of early work by Richard Hamilton, which itself was a Pop extension of earlier Dada strategies. What stands out in Saville is that she is doing it all in paint, but ultimately, so what? A photomontage based on paintings, a painting based on computer-generated collage: it is just a technical distinction.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think one can play with issues as loaded and potent as racial identity, gender representation, the lived-in body etc. in large, resolved public images and not have a forceful message one is ready to stand behind, or that others who admire the results can express coherently. Saying that these images are provoking a debate and we can&#8217;t decide what they mean yet doesn&#8217;t cut it for me. We don&#8217;t have to have a definitive interpretation, but the onus is on defenders to offer a start.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
I disagree about the <em>Fates</em> series. They are not as bad as the pietàs, but that&#8217;s it.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
I would want to cite the group of British artists who took illustrative techniques and tricked them out with painterly effects — R.B. Kitaj, Allen Jones, even Hockney, along with Hamilton.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Yeah, she is totally a footnote to <em>School of London</em> painting, both the grubby existentialist end of the spectrum (Freud and Auerbach) and the Pop end (Hamilton and Kitaj). But she chickens out of the middle point, which is where she actually needs to concentrate her efforts if she wants to paint rivers of flesh: Francis Bacon.</p>
<p>BRENDA ZLAMANY<br />
Just back from a break. Did anyone mention George Condo?</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
Someone should have done, with the African statue. This is what irony-free George Condo looks like, Julie. Pastiche minus irony equals kitsch.</p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON<br />
One problem here seems to be that David sees what Saville does as merely facilely co-opting a kind of historical mark making. Yummy sticks in my throat as well. While I hate yummy, I don’t think Saville is that, nor do I think what she does is facile. In my experience of the paintings I have seen, it doesn’t seem like that. But it is the conflict of everyone’s own imagined histories, which for the painters in the group, is how we construct our own genealogies that make this discussion so confounding. I can easily see how David and Barry might find this work deficient, yet when I look at it, I don’t think so. On some level all painters at this point could be considered pastiche, and yet nevertheless, no one really, despite the many comparisons, looks like Saville. So to attack her for her method seems beside the point, and why authenticity reared its ugly head.</p>
<p>I think kitsch is becoming one of those words like beauty and soul, that people use to justify value or non-value, which pretend to be objectively agreed upon concepts but are really just an attempt to universalize an opinion. To me Bacon seems emotionally overblown kitsch, and yet he is immediately recognizable. I must, despite the condescending Nochlin groans, feel that a male painter would not come under so much negative scrutiny. I don’t believe Larry Rivers, who was genuinely facile, got this dismissal.</p>
<p>Asking the questions, “what is it really saying?” or “to what end?” sounds like critical thinking, but are not really applicable to artists or their work. They are questions viewers might ask of themselves but not of the artist. The ability of an artist or work of art to embrace ambiguity and not provide definitive answers to those kind of questions is a mark of quality to me. After her first show Saville faltered in this area for me, but seems to have regained her ambiguous footing in this one.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
Saville is also taking real people sitting in front of her and immersing them in a whirlpool of painterly effects on canvas. A pointed, literal definition of what her painting is, and an uncommon one.</p>
<p>BARRY SCHWABSKY<br />
What Dennis said could start a whole new round. But rather than going there, I just want to point out that &#8220;to what end&#8221; (which I said) and &#8220;what is she saying&#8221; (which I would never say) are utterly different things. &#8220;Content is a glimpse,&#8221; said de Kooning; &#8220;to what end&#8221; means, What is that thing she&#8217;s got a glimpse of and that she is pursuing? It&#8217;s nothing to do with a verbally paraphrasable message (such as one that came up in this discussion, &#8220;We are all one,&#8221; I think it went). In the end, we can only agree to disagree, but the thing Saville seemed to glimpse before— I feel that she&#8217;s lost sight of it here.</p>
<p>DAVID COHEN<br />
There’s a kind of sophistry in hitting on innocent phrases like &#8220;she is saying such and such&#8221;; we are all adults here, we know that intentions aren&#8217;t the final arbiter of anything, that artists at their best generate ambiguities of intention as much as form. But Saville very deliberately, pointedly, and publicly deploys rhetorics of style and method in ways that I find completely removed from any historically or psychologically informed understanding of their value.</p>
<p>Dennis, in your writings on artists you are hardly shy to interpret, including &#8211; rightly &#8211; ambiguous or unintended elements in the finished works. I was simply asking Saville&#8217;s defenders to take a stab at interpreting images in ways that make sense of her methods. I think only Julie began to do that in her reading of the <em>Fates</em> series.</p>
<p>DENNIS KARDON<br />
All of my reviews are certainly about how the work speaks to me from my perspective of a painter and not an attempt to explain ultimate meaning. I do think Saville, in my interpretation, is trying to address the gap between representation and life. She starts with painting a lifeless statue, substituting real people using our criteria of realness, photography illuminated by paint, trying to turn stone to flesh, and then turning to a remake of cubism to address how that metamorphosis is unsuccessful. This may seem, in the ideas department, not original, but it has always been pertinent and comes out of her work. In Barry’s terms what she is &#8220;trying to reach for” is the connection of real humans to representations. She probably fails as this distance really cannot be bridged, but in her case her insufficiency is where her art lies. Which is why the details are important to me, as I think trying to capture the complexity of looking at her work through one reproduction of an entire work on our devices is bound to be reductive of the experience and demean the enterprise. Salle takes the impossibility as a given and the “irony” that everyone perceives is just trying to make those failures expressive. While I think Saville is frustrated by the failure.</p>
<p>I think we disagree about the stylization of the “<em>pentimenti</em>,” which to me are not <em>pentimenti</em> exactly, but underpainting. Since they do not seem like actual attempts to describe the final subject, it seems arrogant not to give her the benefit of the doubt about the why of their existence. They might be part of an unseen aspect of the image, or a change of mind about the image, but I feel she doesn’t use them to call attention to her mastery, but the artificiality of what is left on top. This is where I think you question her sincerity, and I simply won’t make that call. You may be totally correct and the whole thing is completely contrived. I don’t feel that is the case, but I couldn’t say.</p>
<p>WALTER ROBINSON<br />
To Dennis I would say representations <em>are</em> reality, and to David I’d exclaim, “values? I don’t need no stinkin’ values!” That is, she puts plenty of intention in her paintings, not the least of which is libidinal play and, as yet another afterthought to our colloquium, a challenge to Hirst and Kapoor, her bloviating male colleagues on the new “British Rich List.”</p>
<p><strong>Jenny Saville: Ancestors at Gagosian Gallery, 522 West 21st Street, between 10th and 11th avenues, New York City, gagosian.com, May 3 to June 16, 2018.</strong></p>
<p><strong>David Cohen is Publisher/Editor at artcritical.com. Julie Heffernan is a painter, represented by P.P.O.W. Gallery, New York. Dennis Kardon is a painter who shows at Mitchell Algus Gallery, New York.Walter Robinson is a painter, represented by Jeffrey Deitch, New York.Barry Schwabsky is art critic of The Nation, a poet, and author of The Perpetual Guest and other works. Suzy Spence, Executive Publisher at artcritical.com, is a painter, represented by Sears Peyton Gallery, New York. Painter Brenda Zlamany&#8217;s most recent commission was unveiled in 2018 at Davenport College, Yale University, and her series of watercolor portraits, 100/100, will be shown at the JCC, New York, in the fall. </strong></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Drawing on family experience, the author dives into the neuroscience of figuration and abstraction</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Drawing on personal and family experience, painter ANNE SHERWOOD PUNDYK dives into the neuroscience of figuration and abstraction</strong></p>
<p>Books considered in this essay: <em>My Stroke of Insight</em> by Jill Bolte Taylor (2006) and <em>Reductionism in Art and Brain Science: Bridging the Two Cultures </em>by Eric R. Kandel (2016)</p>
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<p>Nearly two years ago, my sister, at a relatively young age, suffered a rare form of stroke. I learned about the progress of her physical condition from the many medical professionals treating her. It was an artist, however, who suggested I read, <em>My Stroke of Insight</em>, by Jill Bolte Taylor, to help understand my sister’s own experience of her injury and healing. Taylor, a Harvard-trained brain scientist, was at the forefront of advances in the new science of mind at the time of her own stroke in 1996. She conducted her research into the micro-circuitry of the brain on actual human brain tissue through post-mortem investigations.</p>
<p>The cat scans taken periodically of my sister’s brain provide still snapshots of the impact of her injury and subsequent treatments. Taylor’s writing explains how the brain works in real time. The road map of the brain’s functions starts at the molecular level within a single living cell. The first form of information processing happened through instructions housed in the atoms and molecules of DNA and RNA. They are stored there for use by future generations. As Taylor observes, “[m]oments in time no longer came and went without a record and by interweaving a continuum of sequential moments into a common thread, the life of a cell evolved as a bridge across time.” These shared biological instructions are also a link between creatures alive in the same moment.</p>
<p>Taylor’s knowledge of brain functions is based on a fairly recent convergence of several scientific disciplines. The Nobel Prize winning scientist Eric R. Kandel, who is also a cultural historian, has written important books on the new science of mind, a field born of a merger of behavioral psychology, cognitive psychology and molecular biology. Addressing its multi-disciplinary origins in his most recent book, <em>Reductionism in Art and Brain Science</em>, he recounts how the collaborations in physics and chemistry in the 1930s led to the discovery of the molecular structure of DNA in 1953, which paved the way for today’s molecular neurobiology. His goal for this book is to humanize his investigations of brain function by looking for commonality between this pursuit and the arts. My sister and I are both artists.</p>
<p>Just as it sounds, “reductionism” in scientific research <em>reduces </em>the scope of investigation to measurable, and thus knowable terms. For Kandel, reductionism as an investigatory method, “…doesn’t oversimplify a problem, [rather] it allows for a deep understanding of key components that can be extrapolated more broadly.” This book presents current scientific findings about the functions of the brain arrayed around the components of visual experience such as face recognition, color, texture and depth perception. More profoundly, He describes how what is now known about these functions is integrated with “abstract” processing involving emotion, memory and association.</p>
<p>Kandel credits Vienna in the 1850s with supporting the establishment of art history as a scientific discipline grounded in psychological principles. Its famous salons brought together scientists, such as Carl von Rokitansky and Sigmund Freud, and artists such as Gustav Klimt, Oskar Kokoschka and Egon Schiele. Alois Riegl, doyen of the Vienna School of Art History, emphasized a profound and pivotal concept in the relationship between the artist and the audience. According to Riegl: “Art is incomplete without the perceptual and emotional involvement of the viewer.” His term for this phenomenon was the “beholder’s involvement.” His successors, Ernst Kris and Ernst Gombrich, developed this idea further, settling on the term, “the beholder’s share.” Everything we see is an illusion enacted in the brain according to studies in the new science of mind. What an artist does in creating a work of art models her own physical and psychic reality and parallels what our brains do everyday. An artwork thus becomes a form of Rosetta stone between the brain of the artist and that of the viewer.</p>
<p>Thanks to our shared genetic structure, the intricate wiring of our cerebral cortices is nearly identical. “We are generally capable of thinking and feeling in comparable ways,” as Taylor puts it. In describing her stroke experience, she emphasizes the difference between the two sides of the outer brain. The right hemisphere is master of the present moment processing all incoming sensations and giving us our awareness of where we are in space. The left hemisphere strings these moments together, giving them a “voice over” of internal monologue. It also presents us with a sense of self and our relation to others including the dimensions of our body.</p>
<p>During Taylor’s stroke, as with my sister’s, internal bleeding interrupted the normal flow of neurons in her brain. Taylor temporarily lost her ability to move, speak, to decipher the spoken language of others, and make sense of visual images. She tells her story of that morning in a dual voice, as both scientist and subject. As she hemorrhaged she knew that is was the left side of her brain that was affected based on her gradual incapacitation.</p>
<p>Kandel’s scientific investigations are based on studies of the neurons in a lower life form, a large invertebrate sea snail called <em>Aplysia</em>. Although the neuron system in the snail’s brain is so much smaller than ours, it functions in the same way: Kandel has been able to draw conclusions about how short- and long-term memory are formed by studying specific responses in the snail. He has shown that repeated stimulation of physical reflexes initially increases the flow of serotonin between sensory and motor neurons. Further repetition eventually causes the actual growth of additional synapses between the neurons. Memory and learning thus have a concrete physical impact on the brain’s structure.</p>
<p>Over a lifetime our brains are literally shaped by its response to all of our experiences. “Since all of us are brought up in somewhat different environments, are exposed to different combinations of stimuli, learn different things, and are likely to exercise our motor and perceptual skills in different ways, the architecture of our brains will be modified in unique ways”, Kandel concludes. Changes to the brain are constant and ongoing throughout life. Having made a full recovery after eight years, Taylor also believes in the plasticity of her brain, in “its ability to repair, replace and retrain its neural circuitry.” This phenomenon also contributes to the nature of a “beholder’s share” in that, according to Kandel, it “accounts for the differences in how we respond to art.”</p>
<figure id="attachment_71462" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-71462" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/kandel.jpg" rel="attachment wp-att-71462"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-71462" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/kandel-275x208.jpg" alt="cover of the book under review, with portrait of the artist by Chuck Close" width="275" height="208" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2017/08/kandel-275x208.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2017/08/kandel.jpg 500w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-71462" class="wp-caption-text">cover of the book under review, with portrait of the artist by Chuck Close</figcaption></figure>
<p>Kandel relates his and other brain experiments using reductionism specifically focused on visual perception to the advent of abstraction in modern art. As if modeling their choices on Kandel’s methods artists responding to the modern zeitgeist reduced or isolated the components of their expression to color, form, line and texture. Neurologists now believe that there are two fundamental modes of cognition . Bottom up processing, linked to survival, is hardwired from birth. It encompasses the sensory processing of faces and other identifiable objects. This mode allows us to recognize contours and intersections: it is the one that would be employed, for instance, when we look at figurative works of art. Alternatively, top-down processing which we use when looking at abstract art draws upon higher order thinking such as attention, expectations and learned visual associations. Compared to figurative art, abstract art makes more creative demands on the beholder’s share. Rather than rely on the visual processes universally inherent in the brain’s circuitry, abstract art—with its reductive focus on form, color, line and light—draws on a more active response involving the unique personal psychological context of each individual viewer.</p>
<p>As precursors to the abstract artists centered in New York City from the 1930s to the ‘60s, Kandel establishes an art historical narrative linking Turner, Monet, Kandinsky and Mondrian. Their work shares a common trajectory transitioning from figuration to abstraction. The earlier artists collectively worked to “escape the dreary task of mimesis” (Turner) and express the “sublime aspects of the human spirit and soul through abstraction” (Kandinsky.) Similarly, the later group of Abstract Expressionists and Color Field painters could be represented by Barnett Newman’s claim, that “We are freeing ourselves of the impediments of …[the] devices of Western Painting.” Kandel highlights the work of Jackson Pollock, Willem de Kooning, Mark Rothko, Morris Louis and Newman as artists who used reductionism in the form of self-imposed formal and technical restrictions in their work. Kandel, a scientist coming from outside the arts, relies heavily on the received canon of modern art for his examples. There are many other artists – I would want to add Louise Bourgeois, Sonia Delaunay (Jay DeFeo, Helen Frankenthaler, Eva Hesse, Lee Krasner, Georgia O’Keeffe, Agnes Martin, and Joan Mitchell, among others – whose work fits his bill.</p>
<p>Kandel selects the work of Alex Katz, Andy Warhol and Chuck Close to discuss how the lessons of abstraction and top-down thinking have, more recently, informed ways that figurative artists use representation in their work. Last year, the exhibition “Tight Rope Walk,” curated by Barry Schwabsky at London’s White Cube gallery presented modern and contemporary figurative work impacted by abstraction. In Schwabsky’s catalogue essay he concludes that “[t]he problem [of representation] …needs to be solved all over again every time…This is the great and difficult gift of abstraction to painting: that we can no longer assume that the how and they why of it are already given.” Again, casting a wider net than Kandel, Schwabsky presented work by over forty artists including Tracy Emin, Barkley L. Hendricks, Alice Neel, Chris Ofili, and Henry Taylor.</p>
<p>Reductionism as an analytical tool can be a useful way to parse the impact on the creativity of both the artist and her viewer of evolving expressions in traditional and new media. Kandel leaves us with suggestions of what is to come in the study of brain science including further explorations of preconscious thinking in our brain’s default network which we call into play when looking at figurative art and ideas about the role of physiological distance in creating conditions that encourage less concrete, abstract cognitive processing in the Construal Level Theory. As a scientist Kandel has seen proof of the benefits of cross-disciplinary investigations. He hopes that “[a]rtists today can enhance traditional introspection with the knowledge of how some aspects of our mind works”. By challenging each other’s methods and claims, scientists and artists can move forward together.</p>
<p>When Taylor’s left cortex was incapacitated during her stroke, she experienced the freedom of living in the present moment available through her right cortex. She felt she was able to let go of negative judgments and long held feelings of anger and resentment. As she gradually rebuilt her abilities during her recovery, she has worked to stay in touch with this state of spiritual release, which she believes is available to all of us. Kandel’s premise that abstract art can also give us access to the spiritual realm resonates with me. Shortly before my sister’s stroke my painting transitioned to complete abstraction. In a short video of my sister taken before she went home from the hospital she is shown making an artwork as part of her physical therapy. While working, she observed, “Your attention is so devoted to what you’re doing and what you are constructing that everything else just fades away.”</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>The poet-critic's recent writing for The Nation is collected by Verso.</p>
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<p>Barry Schwabsky’s new anthology, <em>The Perpetual Guest: Art in the Unfinished Present</em> (2016), collects his columns for <em>The Nation </em>between 2006 and 2014, providing a clear record of a surprising variety of gallery and museum exhibitions. We get his response to shows of old masters and modernist heroes — Diego Velázquez, Gustave Courbet and Henri Matisse — and his often-critical views of famous senior contemporaries, such as Alighiero Boetti, Dan Graham and Ai Weiwei. We also get his sympathetic take on a number of lesser-known and emerging artists, including Laurel Nakadate, Zoe Strauss, Silke Otto-Knapp and Lynette Yiadom-Boakye. And in the introduction, as well as in many of the reviews, readers get brief, instructive statements about the present-day role of art criticism, the contemporary art market, and about the role of art schools — three of the art world’s perpetual quandaries.</p>
<figure id="attachment_56733" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-56733" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" class="wp-image-56733 size-medium" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Barry_Schwabsky1-275x413.jpg" alt="" width="275" height="413" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/Barry_Schwabsky1-275x413.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2016/04/Barry_Schwabsky1.jpg 333w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-56733" class="wp-caption-text">Barry Schwabsky photographed by Mathias Augustyniak Poetry Marathon, Serpentine Gallery, London, 2009 © M/M (Paris)</figcaption></figure>
<p>As art critic for <em>The Nation</em>, Schwabsky may be reasonably compared with the most famous holder of that post, Clement Greenberg. When Greenberg championed the Abstract Expressionists, calling them the only legitimate heirs to early French Modernist tradition, he appeared a prophet. By contrast, Schwabsky, modestly recognizing in his introduction that contemporary art critics have only a marginal practical role, aspires “to open up […] perspectives without, I hope, belaboring them.” While Greenberg provides a skeleton history of Modernism from Edouard Manet to Jackson Pollock, it’s abundantly clear that no such master narrative can conceivably extend into the present. But now, Schwabsky suggests, thanks to “an inner transformation in the nature of art itself,” it solicits “participants, collaborators, communities.” For this reason, the role of politics has also changed. Greenberg’s art writing, guided by Marxism, sententiously contrasts high art and kitsch. For Schwabsky, however, the goal is to “let the critical distance between art and politics — between my writing and its context — display itself.”</p>
<p>Schwabsky’s presentation of these important arguments is very elliptical, so I hope that elsewhere he will spell them out. Here is how I would place them: after art history became an academic subject, in the 1960s Michael Fried and Rosalind Krauss (and her followers at the journal <em>October</em>) attempted also to turn art criticism into a discipline housed in the university. In pursuit of that goal, they introduced a methodology and technical vocabulary into writing about contemporary art. But this project failed. And so nowadays our best critics are poets (like Schwabsky), journalists, or perhaps moonlighting academics such as Schwabsky’s immediate predecessor at <em>The Nation</em>, Arthur Danto. And this means that Denis Diderot, Charles Baudelaire and even Adrian Stokes (the maverick 20th-century English writer who is repeatedly cited by Schwabsky) remain the most relevant role models for critics.</p>
<p>Schwabsky is an eloquent, compulsively quotable writer. His essays, he says, “aim to keep art unfinished.” Without ever seeming to try too hard, he is very effective at summarizing artists’ achievements in tightly coiled felicitous phrases. Kara Walker’s “instantly recognizable amalgamation of technique and content not previously associated with any other artist,” he nicely observes, is “the aesthetic equivalent of what the marketing gurus call a unique selling proposition.” Gauguin’s Polynesian women, he suggests, are “almost indecipherable. [&#8230;] Something in them remained as mysterious to him as he was to himself.” I love it when he calls Courbet’s <em>The Origin of the World </em>(1866) an “immersive and synecdochical painting.” And I admire him when, in a surprising review linking the abstract paintings of Stanley Whitney and Jacqueline Humphries, he suggests that they both “aspire to grandeur — with a pictorial vocabulary that to some may seem painfully narrow.”</p>
<p>Critics, whose <em>raison d’être</em> is to scrutinize particular works, need to have a sensibility — which is to say that they are unavoidably more personal in their enthusiasms than art historians. But art historians deploy a method, and so generalize. Suppose, then, that an art historian devoted to contemporary art were to read <em>The Perpetual Guest </em>(as many no doubt will). What general view of the subtitle&#8217;s &#8220;art in the unfinished present&#8221; would she come away with? Schwabsky’s account of how Nancy Spero’s “effort to unmoor painting from the Western tradition finally did converge with Matisse’s earlier one” would show how our best critics link contemporary art with its antecedents. Reading in his discussion of Christopher Wool that “The price of things is crowding out the value of things” would reveal how skeptical our critics are about our overheated art market. And studying his account of Gordon Matta-Clark — “artist of fragments (who) left an oeuvre that feels whole” — could inspire the art historian to resist conventional critical clichés. Above all, I would hope that the contemporary art historian responded to his very dry sense of humor. His analysis linking the prospects of abstraction with Peggy Lee’s song “Is That All There Is?,” for example, is worth more than a lot of formalist or sociological analysis. “A dominant aesthetic,” says Schwabsky in his account of the 2009 Venice Biennale, “always undermines itself.” At this time — when older formalist and Marxist theorizing is no longer applicable, but has not, as yet, yielded to new approaches to art writing — he offers a reliable, necessarily unfinished guide to the dilemmas of the present.</p>
<p><strong>Schwabsky, Barry. <em>The Perpetual Guest. Art in the Unfinished Present </em>(London &amp; New York: Verso, 2016). ISBN-13: 978-1-78478-324-2. 304 pages. $24.95</strong></p>
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		<title>Turning Reductivism Inside Out: Dannielle Tegeder and the Art of Incompletion</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2014 20:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Excerpted from monograph on her work published by Hamilton College </p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>What follows is a section excerpted from Barry Schwabsky’s essay, “Structures of Possibility,” which was in turn a contribution to the monograph on Dannielle Tegeder issued by the Ruth and Elmer Wellin Museum of Art at Hamilton College earlier this year. The book documents the exhibition, &#8220;Dannielle Tegeder: Painting in the Extended Field,&#8221; curated by the museum’s director, Tracy L. Adler, Director, that took place in the Summer of 2013. This post belongs to a series at artcritical, called &#8220;extract,&#8221; which acknowledges significant exhibitions of emerging and mid-career artists taking place around the United States, mostly in collegiate and alternative venues, beyond the purview of our regular critical coverage and dispatches.</strong></p>
<figure id="attachment_42623" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-42623" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Dannielle-Tegeder-Wellin.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-42623" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Dannielle-Tegeder-Wellin.jpg" alt="Installation view of the wall drawing Ondam and Fractured Floating City (foreground) of Dannielle Tegeder: Painting in the Extended Field at the Wellin Museum of Art, 2013" width="550" height="364" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/09/Dannielle-Tegeder-Wellin.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/09/Dannielle-Tegeder-Wellin-275x182.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-42623" class="wp-caption-text">Installation view of the wall drawing Ondam and Fractured Floating City (foreground) of Dannielle Tegeder: Painting in the Extended Field at the Wellin Museum of Art, 2013</figcaption></figure>
<p>Although most of the painters who were grouped under the rubric of conceptual abstraction have continued to work productively in the subsequent decades, it was never recognized as a dominant form of contemporary art-making. Other trends garnered more attention: the in-your-face figurative painting of John Currin and Lisa Yuskavage; the topical art rooted in identity politics, feminism, and queer theory of Glenn Ligon or the early work of Sue Williams; and the relational aesthetics of artists like Félix González-Torres and Rirkrit Tiravanija, to name a few. For all that, the issues raised by conceptual abstraction never went away, and to one degree or another, they continued to be a (not always acknowledged) stimulus to the efforts of younger artists such as Matthew Ritchie, Mark Bradford, Julie Mehretu, Kristin Baker, and others — and such as Dannielle Tegeder, one of the most interesting in this tendency and the subject of this exhibition.</p>
<p>In a sense, Tegeder turns the guiding intuition — what some might call the ideology — of the reductivist tradition inside out: This intuition tells the artist that as more and more of what had formerly been the matter of art could be jettisoned, that is, as the work came closer and closer to arriving at some concentrated essence, the fuller and more powerful it would be; the fewer elements it could have, the more complete it would be. What Tegeder realizes — perhaps more than any of the other artists who have emerged from the semi-secret tradition of so-called conceptual abstraction—is the rather frightening corollary of the reductivist intuition, which is that when the artwork is complexified, stratified, and subjected to what Stephen Westfall called the “ongoing cultural condition of hyper-contextualization,” then the work loses its grip on any sense of completion, of wholeness, and becomes ever more fragmented, contradictory, underdetermined, and irrational (in the way an irrational number, such as pi, turns out to be endless). A certain arbitrariness comes into play.</p>
<p>In a condition that embraces complexity and hyper-referentiality, any particular work seems always to point beyond itself, not only to the real world, but to its systemic relations with other works; the work that does not complete itself within its frame links up with others. Thus, Tegeder’s paintings (including paintings on paper) do not communicate a sense of formal containment; their multiplicity of rectilinear elements rarely re-mark or echo the containing edges of the rectangular panel or paper support, nor do they reiterate its flatness. But, neither do they conjure a self-consistent fictional world. Instead, a plurality of diagrammatic spaces seems to be overlaid in such a way that they hold each other in place, however precariously, without actually cohering. That this represents a distinctly dystopian attitude is clear from some of Tegeder’s titles, such as <em>Monument to the Geo-Chemistry After Structure with Yellow DISTURBANCE Code and Disaster Averter and Atomic Station </em>(2009) or <em>Puriamond: Cascade System of Destruction &amp; Explosions</em> (2007); a different kind of irony can be detected in <em>Instructions for Utopian Gray World Machine &amp; Copper Inner Structure </em>(2007) where the self-evident contradiction in the phrase “utopian gray” seems to comment on how the dynamic élan of an El Lissitzky might have devolved into the quietist stasis of Gerhard Richter’s gray, which, as he has said, “makes no statement whatever; it evokes neither feelings nor associations: it is really neither visible nor invisible. Its inconspicuousness gives it the capacity to mediate, to make visible, in a positively illusionistic way, like a photograph. It has the capacity that no other color has, to make ‘nothing’ visible.” This gray does after all represent a kind of opening, but only insofar as it is anything but utopian.</p>
<figure id="attachment_42626" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-42626" style="width: 275px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Dannielle-Tegeder-Ondam.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-42626" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Dannielle-Tegeder-Ondam-275x183.jpg" alt="Dannielle Tegeder, Ondam: Hollow Green Gray Velocity Transmitter with Tunnel Routes and Stations with Pipe Chrysalis Headquarters City Plan with Safety Routes in Snow Green with Developments Contraption and Triangle Headquarters with Complete Love Algorithm and Magnetic Diagram for Beauty with Methods and Analysis with Tower Manifesto and Ecstatic White Metallic Mine Tunnels and Pantone Structure with Yellow Categories?with Luminous Connectors and Lemon Elevator Structures, 2013.  Acrylic, ink, and colored pencil?on wall, 18 ft. x 82 ft. 8 inches. Courtesy of the artist?" width="275" height="183" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/09/Dannielle-Tegeder-Ondam-275x183.jpg 275w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/09/Dannielle-Tegeder-Ondam.jpg 550w" sizes="(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-42626" class="wp-caption-text">Dannielle Tegeder, Ondam. click for full caption</figcaption></figure>
<p>Tegeder would probably agree with Richter in this, but the saturnine gravity that comes perhaps all too easily to him is not her way. Her art may evoke disturbance and destruction, but in a strangely playful way: There may always be some disaster afoot, but no disaster is ever total. Some fundamentally constructive energy remains to keep things afloat. Richter admitted that his art had to work through to beauty, but it had to be, he specified, “not a carefree beauty, but rather a serious one.” Tegeder, by contrast, finds a carefree beauty in serious ideas. There are still, as another of her titles would have it — this time of a multipart painting from 2011 — <em>Structures of Possibility</em>.</p>
<p>In fact, incompleteness and self-contradiction seem to be the very basis of possibility, as this work suggests. None of the five parts of <em>Structures of Possibility </em>completes any of the others; each one, by introducing new colors, new shapes, new vectors of energy that could not have been anticipated through one’s perception of the other four, affirms that each, on its own, harbors visual possibilities that could only have been manifested in concert with the others and not separately. In a sense, such a work might have been extended indefinitely, incorporating ever more elements, ever more contexts. But a sufficient point of completion has arrived when the work succeeds in intimating its own infinite expandability; to go further would have been redundant. In this sense, Tegeder’s work cultivates the fragment — yet makes a system of it,<br />
an ensemble that is more than a simple juxtaposition of unrelated parts.</p>
<figure id="attachment_42624" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-42624" style="width: 509px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Dannielle-Tegeder-MoMA.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class=" wp-image-42624" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Dannielle-Tegeder-MoMA.jpg" alt="Chocolate Utopian Underground City with Yellow Inner Structure Station with Square Grid under Construction Safety Chrysalis and Abandon Square Habitat with White Expulsion Area and Central White Mine Tunnel Transportation Center, 2003. Ink, watercolor, pencil, colored pencil, felt-tip pen, synthetic polymer paint, and gouache on colored paper, 54½ x 78  inches. The Museum of Modern Art, New York. The Judith Rothschild Foundation Contemporary Drawings Collection Gift" width="509" height="356" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/09/Dannielle-Tegeder-MoMA.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/09/Dannielle-Tegeder-MoMA-275x192.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 509px) 100vw, 509px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-42624" class="wp-caption-text">Chocolate Utopian Underground City with Yellow Inner Structure Station with Square Grid under Construction Safety Chrysalis and Abandon Square Habitat with White Expulsion Area and Central White Mine Tunnel Transportation Center, 2003. Ink, watercolor, pencil, colored pencil, felt-tip pen, synthetic polymer paint, and gouache on colored paper, 54½ x 78 inches. The Museum of Modern Art, New York. The Judith Rothschild Foundation Contemporary Drawings Collection Gift</figcaption></figure>
<p>What is true of the parts of a painting is true of Tegeder’s oeuvre as a whole, which includes not only painting but so many other kinds of things. It is easy to see that her sculptures might almost be concatenations of forms extracted from the diagrammatic linear webs found in her paintings and expanded three-dimensionally — yet always, I think, holding out the possibility for further expandability still, so that one always tends to see these sculptures both as works in and of themselves and as models for constructions that might exist on some vast cosmic scale as in <em>Suspended Galaxy System</em> (2010) or, yet again, of phenomena that might already exist on a molecular scale. The sculptures thus reveal the paintings to contain possibilities that could never be realized pictorially but this does not mean that the sculptures themselves constitute some ultimate realization. They too suggest possibilities yet unrealized, perhaps unrealizable: They are indeed “forecast machines,” as the title of one (<em>Traveling Forecast Machine with Octave Construction</em>, 2009) would have it. <em>The Library of Abstract Sound</em> (2009) extracts, not three-dimensional forms, but sounds, occurring in the fourth dimension of time, born from the ostensibly two dimensions of paintings on paper. In doing so Tegeder imposes a new kind of incompletion on visual forms: Until we not only see them but hear them, do we really know them?</p>
<p>The titles of Tegeder’s earlier works point to another dimension of the artwork’s incompletion: language — and by supplying the missing element, the incompletion is not remedied but magnified. Few artists have ever used such long titles; take for example a piece from 2004, <em>Alitipia: Community Under Construction with Jumbo Love Dot Boiler; Six Safety Vessel Stations, Containing Habitats and Rainbow Structures; Five Square Two High Rises; Dangling Safety Chrysalis; Abandoned Oz City; Side Room with Circle Storage Nexus; Interconnecting Underground Transportation Network with Abandoned Square Tower Blue Day Time Underground Water City, with Multi-Square Housing Project and Side Village with Hidden Headquarters and White Circle Plan Streamer with Airline Resistant Habitat Structures and Secret Square Gardens.</em> It’s as though every time an element is added, it conjures the necessity of adding still another. Again, the point is not even to follow this through to exhaustion but only far enough to imply inexhaustibility. Even if Tegeder’s titles have grown less profusely elaborate, they remain no less essential to her work. She has used various methods and, as she calls them, “literary games” in their invention. “I keep a large jar in the studio where I collect found text that I later use in titles,” she explains. “I also cut up hundreds of actual city names and recombine them into new fictional city names, then create anagrams from the materials and colors in the works.” Affinities with Burroughs and Cage, Surrealism and Oulipo are hardly accidental. No wonder that she has also used language independently of its functionality in titling, treating it as an artistic substance in itself, in the form of books. But this brings me to the threshold of another dimension of Tegeder’s work, a threshold which this is not the occasion for me to cross: One more reminder that with this artist, the structures of possibility are never finished. Something can still be done with Modernism to the extent that it keeps building itself by taking itself apart.</p>
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		<title>March 2014: Barry Schwabsky , Nora Griffin and  Drew Lowenstein with moderator David Cohen</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2014 05:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Elana Herzog: Plumb Pulp<br />
LMAKprojects, 139 Eldridge Street, 212 255 9707</p>
<p>Julia Rommel: The Little Match Stick<br />
Bureau, 178 Norfolk Street,212 227 2783</p>
<p>David Row: There and Back<br />
Loretta Howard Gallery, 525-531 West 26th Street, 212 695 0164</p>
<p>Leslie Wayne: Rags<br />
Jack Shainman Gallery, 524 West 24th Street, 212 337 3372</p>
<p>John Zinsser: Paintings and File Studies<br />
James Graham &#038; Sons, 32 East 67th Street, 212 535 5767</p>
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<p>The March 7 edition of The Review Panel saw Nation art critic Barry Schwabsky join moderator David Cohen, Nora Griffin and newcomer to the series Drew Lowenstein, respectively editor, associate editor and a contributor at artcritical.  Taking their cue from the overdose of Armory Week these indefatigable art journalists chose  six topics for discussion in what is a departure from normal TRP format.</p>
<p>Gideon Bok: Welcome to the AfterFuture<br />
Steven Harvey Fine Art Projects, 208 Forsyth Street, 917 861 7312</p>
<p>Elana Herzog: Plumb Pulp<br />
LMAKprojects, 139 Eldridge Street, 212 255 9707</p>
<p>Julia Rommel: The Little Match Stick<br />
<span style="line-height: 1.5em;">Bureau, 178 Norfolk Street,</span><span style="line-height: 1.5em;">212 227 2783</span></p>
<p>David Row: There and Back<br />
Loretta Howard Gallery, 525-531 West 26th Street, 212 695 0164</p>
<p>Leslie Wayne: Rags<br />
Jack Shainman Gallery, 524 West 24th Street, 212 337 3372</p>
<p>John Zinsser: Paintings and File Studies<br />
James Graham &amp; Sons, 32 East 67th Street, 212 535 5767</p>
<figure id="attachment_38559" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-38559" style="width: 600px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/2014/02/24/line-up-announced-for-the-review-panel-march-7-with-nora-griffin-drew-lowenstein-and-barry-schwabsky/flyer-for-trp-march-2014/" rel="attachment wp-att-38559"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-38559" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/flyer-for-TRP-March-2014.jpg" alt="Flyer for the panel on March 7.  Please share" width="600" height="400" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/02/flyer-for-TRP-March-2014.jpg 600w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2014/02/flyer-for-TRP-March-2014-275x183.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-38559" class="wp-caption-text">Flyer for the panel on March 7. Please share</figcaption></figure>
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		<title>Too Smart To Be Caught In A System: Barry Schwabsky&#8217;s Words for Art</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Carrier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 04:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>"Schwabsky is a master of concision"</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Words for Art </em>by Barry Schwabsky</p>
<figure id="attachment_35262" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-35262" style="width: 550px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/barryschwabsky.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-35262 " title="Barry Schwabsky.  Photo credit to follow" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/barryschwabsky.jpg" alt="Barry Schwabsky.  Photo credit to follow" width="550" height="366" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2013/10/barryschwabsky.jpg 550w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2013/10/barryschwabsky-275x183.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-35262" class="wp-caption-text">Barry Schwabsky. Photo credit to follow</figcaption></figure>
<p>Some of our best art critics (Clement Greenberg, Peter Schjeldahl) are short winded&#8211; they publish only essays. Barry Schwabsky belongs in their company. This book republishes his accounts of very diverse subjects: the <em>Octobrist </em>manifesto <em>Art since 1900</em>; the collected writings of Meyer Schapiro and E. H. Gombrich; and such well known commentators as Thierry de Duve, Boris Groys and Linda Nochlin. Generous even when highly critical, critical even when he is praising, Schwabsky is a master of concision. Schjeldahl, he writes, “dreams of the artist ‘as story-teller, as bard’,” failing to recognize that film directors “fill that bill . . . . If Schjeldahl really wanted to dwell on that kind of art he could have become a film critic” (p. 154). As for Michael Fried, “a willingness to strain credibility has always been part of (his) critical method. . . . He has always been aware that any truly productive interpretation must go beyond verifiable fact—that it is, in fact, a wager” (p. 136). Schwabsky certainly knows the theorizing, which, until recently, often dominated art world discourse, especially at <em>Artforum</em> where he has long been coeditor of international reviews. But whether because he is not an academic, or because he is a practicing poet, or just because he is too smart to allow himself to be caught in a system, he himself has mostly not theorized. The exception, the odd man out in this collection, is his immensely suggestive “A Benjaminian view of color,” which in just thirteen pages links Matisse, Frank Stella, Gary Hume and the marvelous Italian painter Maria Morganti. It is a virtuoso performance.</p>
<p>Because he’s not an art historian, Schwabsky is unafraid of making surprising ahistorical comparisons, as when he links Adolph Menzel’s “makeshift constructions” (Fried’s phrase) with the installations of Jessica Stockholder, “whose work is always based on careful observation of what, even arbitrarily, happens to be there in a particular situation” (p. 134). In a marvelous imaginative flight, he compares Giulio Romano’s frescoed scenes of collapsing rooms in Mantua to Chris Burden’s <em>Sensation</em> 1985),</p>
<blockquote><p>an installation contrived so that each visitor, entering the gallery through a turnstile, places added pressure on its walls so that, if enough people had come to see it, the work would have destroyed its setting (p. 87)</p></blockquote>
<p>I wish that I had said that—well, perhaps I will! And although Schwabsky’s not a philosopher, he is unafraid to tackle de Duve’s <em>Kant after Duchamp</em>, which, he nicely says, “uses philosophy brilliantly but often awkwardly” (p. 168).  Jacques Derrida’s commentary on Meyer Schapiro’s account of Heidegger’s discussion van Gogh has often been discussed in comically solemn terms. Schwabsky cuts to the chase: “For all the philosopher’s concern to explicate the distinction between objects of use and the work of fine art in which truth is disclosed, he has in fact reduced the work to a merely useful prop for his text . . . ” (p. 64).</p>
<p>Is it perverse to praise a senior critic for his modesty? Perhaps not, not when Schwabsky’s exemplary modesty masks his interpretative will-to-power. “Scholarly attempts to form coherent methodologies,” he is describing <em>Art Since 1900</em>, “are fundamentally something else altogether: expressions of taste” (p. 15) And taste, he adds, “is always the fundamental thing.” This is the lesson I carry away from this book. At a time where attempts to generalize about contemporary art are foredoomed, art writers need to trust their taste, for ultimately that is all we have to go on. How, Schwabsky asks</p>
<blockquote><p>Do conflicting views on the value of different kinds of artworks gel into a rough and shifting consensus about the boundaries of what will be considered art in the first place? (p. 211).</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Words for Art </em>assembles the materials, which any adequate answer to that crucial question will need to employ.  Schjeldahl, it says, “can do things with words on which other critics can only look with wonder . . . ” (p. 147). That’s how I feel, often enough, about Schwabsky’s book, which for me inspires unenvious wonder.</p>
<p><strong>Barry Schwabsky, <em>Words for Art</em>. Berlin: Sternberg Press, 2013. ISBN 978-3-95679-002-7. 232 pages, €19.00</strong></p>
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		<title>Sitting Still on the Brink of Sandy: Nick Miller Paints a Portrait</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Cohen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 01:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>First entry in new column, "David's Diary,"  uploaded as the lights begin to flicker. </p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is amazing how creative and productive one can be, seated in a chair doing nothing for three hours. I’m not talking about Buddhist meditation, by the way, but sitting for artist <a href="http://www.nickmiller.ie" target="_blank">Nick Miller</a>, which is what I did Sunday afternoon in Williamsburg, NY. OK, he painted and I just sat there, but it takes two to tango.</p>
<figure id="attachment_27082" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-27082" style="width: 560px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/miller-withportrait.jpg"><img loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-27082 " title="David Cohen with his newly painted portrait by Nick Miller.  Photo by, and courtesy of, Nick Miller" src="https://www.artcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/miller-withportrait.jpg" alt="David Cohen with his newly painted portrait by Nick Miller.  Photo by, and courtesy of, Nick Miller" width="560" height="318" srcset="https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2012/10/miller-withportrait.jpg 560w, https://artcritical.com/app/uploads/2012/10/miller-withportrait-275x156.jpg 275w" sizes="(max-width: 560px) 100vw, 560px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-27082" class="wp-caption-text">David Cohen with his newly painted portrait by Nick Miller. Photo by, and courtesy of, Nick Miller</figcaption></figure>
<p>Nick, who is visiting from Ireland for a month, has set himself a marathon schedule of pretty much one subject a day for the duration. He is ensconced in a rather fabulous hotel for artists – residents get a subsidized, gloriously high-ceilinged studio with kitchen, bathroom and sleeping loft – and the line-up includes poets, artists, art world personnel, and a few fellow Irishmen passing through town. I spied fellow scribblers Barry Schwabsky and Joe Wolin on the wall, and Peter Plagens, though the latter was an old work brought along for inspiration; plus collector Frank Williams, artist Corban Walker, and Glen Fuhrman of the FLAG Art Foundation.</p>
<p>Each sitter is given a watercolor for his or her efforts, a twenty-minute warm up for the <em>alla prima</em> oil on canvas or board that will follow. The encounter provides the artist with the social intercourse he needs for the day, after which he is jelly, he says. He spends the evening reading works by the writers coming up on his calendar, who include the likes of Colm Tólbín and James Lasdun, so hopefully he has some energy left after painting.</p>
<p>I last sat for Nick in 2010 when I visited him in County Sligo in preparation for a show I organized at the New York Studio School of his “truck paintings,” so named because they were all painted in a personally customized mobile studio adapted from an old telecom van. That fabled vehicle has been put out to pasture – literally, bereft of engine and sitting on stilts facing a favored view outside his studio. The visage that presented itself in 2010 was bearded and bespectacled, so not much prep for the 2012 incarnation. I have a difficult head, I’m told, as it appears long and wide at the same time.</p>
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